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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: UCChris on October 29, 2019, 02:43:10 PM
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So, looking for a gun for farmyard/backyard/plinking use. Criteria is .177, quiet, compact, lots of shots, in order of importance. Having a really hard time figuring out if I should get the Wildcat MKII right now, which will end up with ~80 shots tuned at 18 fpe and ~34" OAL. Or do I order the .177 Raptor Mini from JSAR, wait an unknown (minimum of 10?) weeks for it, then have a gun that will shoot, potentially, 150+ shots at 18 fpe and an OAL of ~40".
I've always wanted a bullpup and the Wildcat seems like a really nice one with the forward cocking and FX X liner system. However, I've also always wanted a semi-custom gun from Travis ever since he was with WAR. I think the Raptor Mini is the better overall product, but who knows about parts support vs FX.
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Raptor Mini. There actually about 37" OAL. And parts support and customer service from FX USA has been lacking greatly. Lots of complaints about it recently.
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Raptor Mini. There actually about 37" OAL. And parts support and customer service from FX USA has been lacking greatly. Lots of complaints about it recently.
Thanks for the info. The product page says 37" OAL with DonnyFL. I would be putting a Ronin on it, so I gave it a few extra inches since I don't know which DonnyFL they are talking about on the product page.
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Personally I have had very good support from FX USA. Timely emails, phone calls answered, parts shipped under honored warranty.
In comparison, I have received mostly defective or blemished products from JSAR. I think 4 out of 6 items ordered from there were unsatisfactory, including my dreamline, which got returned and after they tried to sell me a damaged refurb as new. The replacement had blemishes on the moderator as well, but I kept it rather than further engaging with the vendor.
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Personally I have had very good support from FX USA. Timely emails, phone calls answered, parts shipped under honored warranty.
In comparison, I have received mostly defective or blemished products from JSAR. I think 4 out of 6 items ordered from there were unsatisfactory, including my dreamline, which got returned and after they tried to sell me a damaged refurb as new. The replacement had blemishes on the moderator as well, but I kept it rather than further engaging with the vendor.
Thank you for your input. This is what I worry about when considering a small shop that is completely overwhelmed. There's certainly pro's and con's with big established brands vs boutique makers.
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Personally I have had very good support from FX USA. Timely emails, phone calls answered, parts shipped under honored warranty.
In comparison, I have received mostly defective or blemished products from JSAR. I think 4 out of 6 items ordered from there were unsatisfactory, including my dreamline, which got returned and after they tried to sell me a damaged refurb as new. The replacement hellent supad blemishes on the moderator as well, but I kept it rather than further engaging with the vendor.
I also have had excellent support and CS from
FX USA ;D
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Personally I have had very good support from FX USA. Timely emails, phone calls answered, parts shipped under honored warranty.
In comparison, I have received mostly defective or blemished products from JSAR. I think 4 out of 6 items ordered from there were unsatisfactory, including my dreamline, which got returned and after they tried to sell me a damaged refurb as new. The replacement hellent supad blemishes on the moderator as well, but I kept it rather than further engaging with the vendor.
I also have had excellent support and CS from
FX USA ;D
Have you had any issues with any of your guns? How were they resolved?
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Chris, you could always opt for a bullpup that almost never needs anything other than air and pellets: the Taipan Mutant. We've all heard about how good their triggers are, and the CZ barrels are lasers.
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Personally I have had very good support from FX USA. Timely emails, phone calls answered, parts shipped under honored warranty.
In comparison, I have received mostly defective or blemished products from JSAR. I think 4 out of 6 items ordered from there were unsatisfactory, including my dreamline, which got returned and after they tried to sell me a damaged refurb as new. The replacement had blemishes on the moderator as well, but I kept it rather than further engaging with the vendor.
Absolutely no truth in that statement we NEVER sold a refurb as new and we dont carry FX guns in stock we get them directly from FX so you got exactly what they sent us.
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Chris, you could always opt for a bullpup that almost never needs anything other than air and pellets: the Taipan Mutant. We've all heard about how good their triggers are, and the CZ barrels are lasers.
This was the top of my list, but it doesn't come in .177
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Personally I have had very good support from FX USA. Timely emails, phone calls answered, parts shipped under honored warranty.
In comparison, I have received mostly defective or blemished products from JSAR. I think 4 out of 6 items ordered from there were unsatisfactory, including my dreamline, which got returned and after they tried to sell me a damaged refurb as new. The replacement had blemishes on the moderator as well, but I kept it rather than further engaging with the vendor.
Absolutely no truth in that statement we NEVER sold a refurb as new and we dont carry FX guns in stock we get them directly from FX so you got exactly what they sent us.
Sorry, but when you tell me you "personally replaced the barrel because it was bent from the factory" (This from SilentMatt) that makes it a refurb. It was refurbished from factory condition. I won't let you get away with this sort of behavior and call me a liar. I can show the emails I still have from the GTA PM's where Matt told me he refurbed the gun, as well as failed to notice the damage when it was shipped.
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There is an FX Wildcat MK2 in .177 listed in the Member's Classified right now. Personally, I have had great luck with CS from both FX and JSAR. So, IMHO, it's really a toss up between the two. A new Raptor Mini is cheaper than a new Wildcat in .177, if you don't add any extras, but the one in the classifieds is cheaper than the Raptor and comes with some extras. Another plus with buying used from a reputable GTA Member is the fact they probably already worked out the bugs and tweaked it for top performance!
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=164381.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=164381.0)
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Well this is not fun.... but it is worth taking notice that JSAR and Raptor is making the biggest spenders on the block a little nervous in my view.... well done Travis and the boys now get back to working on my 30 cal ez edition with FFP scope upgrade lol
Nobody wins when a diverse group must pick a single winner
Just shoot and enjoy!
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Well this is not fun....
Nobody wins when a diverse group must pick a single winner
Just shoot and enjoy!
Ditto!!
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Personally I have had very good support from FX USA. Timely emails, phone calls answered, parts shipped under honored warranty.
In comparison, I have received mostly defective or blemished products from JSAR. I think 4 out of 6 items ordered from there were unsatisfactory, including my dreamline, which got returned and after they tried to sell me a damaged refurb as new. The replacement hellent supad blemishes on the moderator as well, but I kept it rather than further engaging with the vendor.
I also have had excellent support and CS from
FX USA ;D
Same. My crown synthetic stock cracked. Not sure if it was mfg defect, my fault, or someone else's fault (I had returned from a trip) they replaced it promptly, no questions asked.
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Chris, don’t think you could go wrong with either! I can only comment on the Raptor as I have had one in my hands for a couple of weeks now, a full size .22 with TJ slug barrel. It has more than exceeded all of my expectations, it is built so solid, accurate, powerful and oh so quiet shooting JSB 18.13 @ 950fps..doesn’t need a larger LDC...my AF Escape in .25 NEEDED a Ronin! LOL! The Raptor is a custom made PCP built to your specs, caliber, barrel, grip. The magazines and single shot loading shoot the same. I get well over 100 shots with the 500cc reservoir (haven’t shot it down with counting..too many), the mini has no upgrade for the bigger bottle but in .177 will be plenty! I have a Daystate Regal .22, Brocock Compatto .22, and an AF Escape .25, the Regal is built emaculately but the Raptor is built the same but much more solid..tensioned shroud and machined parts galore! JSAR’s warranty is I believe as long as you own it!? The ability to tune it to shoot any weight pellet up to heavy slugs is a tuners dream! Can you tell I luv this thing!? Trigger is better in my opinion than my Regals which was the best mechanical trigger I’ve had the pleasure of pulling. I also thought about JSAR being a small, first run model but spoke to Dillon and both came to the conclusion that they helped design, build other high end PCP’s (WAR) as you know and that made it a no brainer for me at least. I’ve called called/texted Travis and company personally many times, great PR to be able to speak directly to the owners/builders. I was looking at RAW, WAR, Brocock Bantam HP, Taipan Veteran...so glad I chose this Raptor. Have shot Impacts, RAWS and many others, this one is built sturdier and shoots as accurately as any I’ve shot. Like you said, you’ve always wanted a custom build from Travis..here is your opportunity at a potentially lower cost than an FX. If you have any questions please feel free to PM me! Sorry for being so long winded!
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Personally I have had very good support from FX USA. Timely emails, phone calls answered, parts shipped under honored warranty.
In comparison, I have received mostly defective or blemished products from JSAR. I think 4 out of 6 items ordered from there were unsatisfactory, including my dreamline, which got returned and after they tried to sell me a damaged refurb as new. The replacement had blemishes on the moderator as well, but I kept it rather than further engaging with the vendor.
Absolutely no truth in that statement we NEVER sold a refurb as new and we dont carry FX guns in stock we get them directly from FX so you got exactly what they sent us.
Sorry, but when you tell me you "personally replaced the barrel because it was bent from the factory" (This from SilentMatt) that makes it a refurb. It was refurbished from factory condition. I won't let you get away with this sort of behavior and call me a liar. I can show the emails I still have from the GTA PM's where Matt told me he refurbed the gun, as well as failed to notice the damage when it was shipped.
The liner was replaced by us that doesnt make it refurbished your taking things way out of context. We do our upmost to help everyone even with other manufactures products. end of rant. I wont reply to this again its a moot point. BTW a refurbished gun is one that was sold and used and sent back for repairs and resold not a new gun from the factory that had a problem that needed addressed by the dealer. Now my rants over LOl ;D
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Folks,
Please don’t let this topic to be locked. Facts only concerning the products being talked about . Pms for opinions towards each other. No need to do your laundry in public .
Mitch
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There's a Cricket .177 right now in the classified.
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Couple good deals here.
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=164381.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=164381.0)
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So many times I have read post here an other forums of people getting defective guns. Bad barrel, leaking, not shooting at proper power levels. Many ask why the dealers do not check the guns. Heck, even PA charges to check out a gun in the very simplest way possible. 10 shots.
Now we have a dealer that not only carries top rated guns, but actually checks, tunes, corrects any flaws in the performance and is accused of refurbishing. This is not refurbished. It is Top Customer Service at its very finest!
Additionally, since Ernest Rowe has taken the top spot of service at FX USA, it has been top notch as well. Either option would be a good pick.
I am gratified that some people appreciate good customer service. It is so rare. Disheartening that is is so rare that when it is given, it is seen as a negative or not recognised and or understood. But this is the world we live in now.. A real shame!
Personally, it would be the Raptor Mini for me, but I was looking at the WC short that Travis owned and was selling. I would be honored to own either!
Knife
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I have had good service from JSAR , as well as FX. If I had to choose one I would go JSAR just because the raptor is an American made product.
The FX crown I had was a beautiful gun. Being so costly I expected it to have less problems. That’s just my experience.
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I'm pretty sure everyone goes through this same thing when buying a new gun. You are only considering two, That's not too difficult. I can't comment on the Raptor Mini from JSAR but I do have a .30 Wildcat MKII. It comes up to the shoulder very nicely, is accurate as I could ever hope, & I have not had any problems with it at all. I bought mine from Ken Hicks at SPAW & he sent a test target with lots of fps & other info. I'm thinking about getting a FX Crown in the future in .25 but am considering another Wildcat because it's just so nice in my opinion. You'll probably end up with more than one GUN at some point, so get the one that you prefer now. I doubt you'll be disappointed no matter which you decide to get.
So, looking for a gun for farmyard/backyard/plinking use. Criteria is .177, quiet, compact, lots of shots, in order of importance. Having a really hard time figuring out if I should get the Wildcat MKII right now, which will end up with ~80 shots tuned at 18 fpe and ~34" OAL. Or do I order the .177 Raptor Mini from JSAR, wait an unknown (minimum of 10?) weeks for it, then have a gun that will shoot, potentially, 150+ shots at 18 fpe and an OAL of ~40".
I've always wanted a bullpup and the Wildcat seems like a really nice one with the forward cocking and FX X liner system. However, I've also always wanted a semi-custom gun from Travis ever since he was with WAR. I think the Raptor Mini is the better overall product, but who knows about parts support vs FX.
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I'm pretty sure everyone goes through this same thing when buying a new gun. You are only considering two, That's not too difficult. I can't comment on the Raptor Mini from JSAR but I do have a .30 Wildcat MKII. It comes up to the shoulder very nicely, is accurate as I could ever hope, & I have not had any problems with it at all. I bought mine from Ken Hicks at SPAW & he sent a test target with lots of fps & other info. I'm thinking about getting a FX Crown in the future in .25 but am considering another Wildcat because it's just so nice in my opinion. You'll probably end up with more than one GUN at some point, so get the one that you prefer now. I doubt you'll be disappointed no matter which you decide to get.
So, looking for a gun for farmyard/backyard/plinking use. Criteria is .177, quiet, compact, lots of shots, in order of importance. Having a really hard time figuring out if I should get the Wildcat MKII right now, which will end up with ~80 shots tuned at 18 fpe and ~34" OAL. Or do I order the .177 Raptor Mini from JSAR, wait an unknown (minimum of 10?) weeks for it, then have a gun that will shoot, potentially, 150+ shots at 18 fpe and an OAL of ~40".
I've always wanted a bullpup and the Wildcat seems like a really nice one with the forward cocking and FX X liner system. However, I've also always wanted a semi-custom gun from Travis ever since he was with WAR. I think the Raptor Mini is the better overall product, but who knows about parts support vs FX.
I think I'll get the .177 Wildcat MKII, then order a JSAR gun or something similar in a .22 TJ slug barrel when I get out of a caliber restricted state.
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I think I'll get the .177 Wildcat MKII, then order a Raptor HP in a .22 TJ slug barrel when I get out of a caliber restricted state.
Caliber restricted?
Gee...Shall not infringe...I thing it applies to AG's too.
N+1.....See that algebra is good for something afterall....LOL
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Just an observation from reading many posts on the wildcat. I owned a 22 mk1 and was a fine gun. But at the time, fx and 177 accuracy was a bit hit or miss. Maybe just the original smooth twist. I'd get some input from wildcat 177 owners before I made my final decision. If I had to make the choice, Raptor mini for me please. Less linkage, looks heavier built.
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Personally I have had very good support from FX USA. Timely emails, phone calls answered, parts shipped under honored warranty.
In comparison, I have received mostly defective or blemished products from JSAR. I think 4 out of 6 items ordered from there were unsatisfactory, including my dreamline, which got returned and after they tried to sell me a damaged refurb as new. The replacement had blemishes on the moderator as well, but I kept it rather than further engaging with the vendor.
Absolutely no truth in that statement we NEVER sold a refurb as new and we dont carry FX guns in stock we get them directly from FX so you got exactly what they sent us.
Sorry, but when you tell me you "personally replaced the barrel because it was bent from the factory" (This from SilentMatt) that makes it a refurb. It was refurbished from factory condition. I won't let you get away with this sort of behavior and call me a liar. I can show the emails I still have from the GTA PM's where Matt told me he refurbed the gun, as well as failed to notice the damage when it was shipped.
If the damage was due to shipping from FX to JSAR, JSAR should have let FX deal with it. However, JSAR decided to personally replace the bent barrel liner. FX would have done the same anyway. In my book, that is going "Above and Beyond" due to JSAR's capability as an airgun shop and the retailer. I suggest JSAR never go above and beyond where its not needed. I had a similar situation in providing service, my situation never turned south but never again will I ever go above and beyond where its not needed. people are willing to blame ya and burn ya.
to the OP, if you will be shooting slugs later on. go with any AG that has that capability. Not just JSAR, many other AGs will shoot slugs out of the box for the same price. Mini Raptor looks good though and you have many other reviews about the quality already. FX airguns are also nice with the slug liners...but it gets pricey...
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If you decide on a Wildcat, ask yourself if you are one to send it off to get worked on or one to tackle a fix/maintenance repair yourself and be ok with it. If you are one to work on it yourself, I must warn you, it is a very very finicky gun. You get one thing off, one little thing, during re assembly, and it won’t cock, it’ll shoot poorly like in 500 FPS, and it won’t cock(did I say it won’t cock?)
I have had my WC down for almost two months, struggling with “what did I do wrong?” I’ve lost many a nights of sleep trying to go over all my reassembly steps, trying to see if I made any mistakes.
Don’t think you can rely on YouTube or any video out there to guide you, as there are steps left out. There is only enough shown, to get you in trouble.
But I got it figured out, thanks to CHUCKSTER. The good thing that came from all of this, I can now disassemble and reassemble a WC in my sleep, and replace all 15 o rings if need be.
Just saying, that it is not an easy gun to work on, if you like doing that kind of stuff.
Back to your choices- if it were me in your shoes, get the Mini Raptor. I foresee great things in the future from these JSAR Raptor guns. All the other manufacturers of Airguns will be with mouths wide open, and eye balls like Marty Feltman.
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Personally I have had very good support from FX USA. Timely emails, phone calls answered, parts shipped under honored warranty.
In comparison, I have received mostly defective or blemished products from JSAR. I think 4 out of 6 items ordered from there were unsatisfactory, including my dreamline, which got returned and after they tried to sell me a damaged refurb as new. The replacement had blemishes on the moderator as well, but I kept it rather than further engaging with the vendor.
Absolutely no truth in that statement we NEVER sold a refurb as new and we dont carry FX guns in stock we get them directly from FX so you got exactly what they sent us.
Sorry, but when you tell me you "personally replaced the barrel because it was bent from the factory" (This from SilentMatt) that makes it a refurb. It was refurbished from factory condition. I won't let you get away with this sort of behavior and call me a liar. I can show the emails I still have from the GTA PM's where Matt told me he refurbed the gun, as well as failed to notice the damage when it was shipped.
If the damage was due to shipping from FX to JSAR, JSAR should have let FX deal with it. However, JSAR decided to personally replace the bent barrel liner. FX would have done the same anyway. In my book, that is going "Above and Beyond" due to JSAR's capability as an airgun shop and the retailer. I suggest JSAR never go above and beyond where its not needed. I had a similar situation in providing service, my situation never turned south but never again will I ever go above and beyond where its not needed. people are willing to blame ya and burn ya.
to the OP, if you will be shooting slugs later on. go with any AG that has that capability. Not just JSAR, many other AGs will shoot slugs out of the box for the same price. Mini Raptor looks good though and you have many other reviews about the quality already. FX airguns are also nice with the slug liners...but it gets pricey...
Even after the replaced barrel, the shroud was still dented, the end cap had a huge blemish on it, and it had to be returned. The replacement to that was still blemished in the LDC where it had a spot completely missing paint. These are things I saw in the first 5 seconds of opening the box. I don't understand how anyone could work on that,, box it back up, and claim to not know it was there. It was literally part of the gun that was worked on. Still unacceptable, and far from "above and beyond".
I should also mention that they shipped the second rifle in the box from the first gun, so now my serials don't match either.
And Travis, you sure get really defensive every single time anyone brings up issues with your products and service. That's a hallmark to me.
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Opinions are great, everyone has one. The OP asked for opinions on two airguns, he did not ask for all the rest that we all have witnessed here. This airing of issues WILL be handled in private message, email or better yet, phone calls. NOT on open forum.
Just as a reminder, here is the rule on that...
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=919.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=919.0)
13- Personal attacks on individual airgunners, dealers, tuners or other airgun forums are strictly forbidden. If you have issues with them, then they should be addressed one on one. Do not create a “war zone” on your forum. Take your issues up directly with them and do not launder them here on the GTA forums.
Nuff said, let's keep this thread on track and not derailed. Otherwise this thread WILL be edited to maintain the integrity of it's original purpose.
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Dave i personally think a little bit of exchange is okay as long as they are just opinions. the exchange will give insight into the actual decision for the OP. if we shut these civil, well spoken, kind and hairy chest men-like dominant exchanges. no one will know anything about JSAR or FX or anyone.
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Agree opinions are needed and acceptable. But again, debating and arguing about an order is not acceptable on open forum. These WILL be handled by other means!!!
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Personally I have had very good support from FX USA. Timely emails, phone calls answered, parts shipped under honored warranty.
In comparison, I have received mostly defective or blemished products from JSAR. I think 4 out of 6 items ordered from there were unsatisfactory, including my dreamline, which got returned and after they tried to sell me a damaged refurb as new. The replacement had blemishes on the moderator as well, but I kept it rather than further engaging with the vendor.
Absolutely no truth in that statement we NEVER sold a refurb as new and we dont carry FX guns in stock we get them directly from FX so you got exactly what they sent us.
Sorry, but when you tell me you "personally replaced the barrel because it was bent from the factory" (This from SilentMatt) that makes it a refurb. It was refurbished from factory condition. I won't let you get away with this sort of behavior and call me a liar. I can show the emails I still have from the GTA PM's where Matt told me he refurbed the gun, as well as failed to notice the damage when it was shipped.
If the damage was due to shipping from FX to JSAR, JSAR should have let FX deal with it. However, JSAR decided to personally replace the bent barrel liner. FX would have done the same anyway. In my book, that is going "Above and Beyond" due to JSAR's capability as an airgun shop and the retailer. I suggest JSAR never go above and beyond where its not needed. I had a similar situation in providing service, my situation never turned south but never again will I ever go above and beyond where its not needed. people are willing to blame ya and burn ya.
to the OP, if you will be shooting slugs later on. go with any AG that has that capability. Not just JSAR, many other AGs will shoot slugs out of the box for the same price. Mini Raptor looks good though and you have many other reviews about the quality already. FX airguns are also nice with the slug liners...but it gets pricey...
Even after the replaced barrel, the shroud was still dented, the end cap had a huge blemish on it, and it had to be returned. The replacement to that was still blemished in the LDC where it had a spot completely missing paint. These are things I saw in the first 5 seconds of opening the box. I don't understand how anyone could work on that,, box it back up, and claim to not know it was there. It was literally part of the gun that was worked on. Still unacceptable, and far from "above and beyond".
I should also mention that they shipped the second rifle in the box from the first gun, so now my serials don't match either.
And Travis, you sure get really defensive every single time anyone brings up issues with your products and service. That's a hallmark to me.
Not getting defensive I’m stating facts. We didn’t make your FX but we did go above and beyond to cure the problems from the manufacturer if you can’t see that your blind. I have no problem airing things out online it’s the way it should be to distinguish facts not opinions or personal feelings. Just stick to the facts and it’s all good. Furthermore the rules are the rules and we must obide by them they are more than fare so if your still not satisfied with your transaction please contact us at JSAR
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These threads, when kept between the lines, can be helpful for a number of reasons: What do you buy, or not buy? Who do you buy from, or not buy from? Who do you sell to, or not sell to?
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Sorry guys, I didn't mean to start anything. I just want to make sure that the $1000+ I'm going to be spending on a rifle gets me the best possible bang for the buck.
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you didn't start anything, you only asked a question.
Cool deal to have $1000 for a new gadget. Hoping you find the one you are looking for.
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Chris, you have done very well with purchasing a Taipan in .177
thats what you wanted and thats an EXCELLENT choice 8)
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Chris, you have done very well with purchasing a Taipan in .177
thats what you wanted and thats an EXCELLENT choice 8)
I agree and when He called thats what I recommended.
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Taipan in .177?
Did not know there is one, but, I want one😀.
Mitch
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Taipan in .177?
Did not know there is one, but, I want one😀.
Mitch
Chris will be here soon...i'm sure, then he will explain ;)
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I've never seen one. But then again, I haven't seem most of the guns we talk about in the GTA. I pretty much liveni in n AG wasteland. LOL
I do have one member close by that has offered to have me over to shoot his .3o Impact. I declined. I can't bare to shoot one and fall in love.
On the other hand, I will be a Raptor owner. Yes I will!
I talked to DonnyFl some time ago. We are old friends. He told me that the way the ldc's are anodized, that there is always a blemish usually in the opening of the end cap. It is where it is hung for the process It is not a fault, if this is where
Chimps imperfection is.
I am looking forward to hearing Chris's take on the new .177 Taipan he has on order.
I have heard nothing but praises on them. Kinda an ugly duckling in my eyes, but performance is the point. And look are subjective. On the other hand, I really like their new stock. Particularly in the grey laminate. Nice!!! ;) 8)
Knife
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Taipan in .177?
Did not know there is one, but, I want one😀.
Mitch
Chris will be here soon...i'm sure, then he will explain ;)
I have arrived!
First of all, I want to give a shout out to Travis with JSAR. I talked to him on the phone this morning for about 20 minutes and he was amazing to talk to. After talking to him, he recommended a Taipan Veteran, just as he said. I told him that I couldn't find one in .177, or else I would totally do that.
However, I went into Utah Airguns today and was telling them how everyone was telling me that I should get a Taipan, but I couldn't find one in .177 at all. Travis @ UTAG told me they ordered a .177 Taipan Veteran Compact that the customer had flaked on. Even though I'm not religious, this seemed as big a sign as any, so I bought it right then and there!
I got it back to work and got a few shots through it. First impressions are that it's pretty accurate, but needs a bit of breaking in. I'm getting some vertical stringing. The trigger is great, but I need to get the second stage creep out of it. It's very quiet! Overall, I'm very pleased, but I need more time to get to know it.
KnifeMaker is right, they are certainly not the most attractive. Here she is.
(https://i.imgur.com/jWENxLp.jpg)
Edit: Quick update! Said goodnight to the missus and I had some time to play with the Veteran trigger. A little adjustment gave me a little more 1st stage take up and no creep. This is now easily the best trigger I have ever used in a gun. It's simply incredible.
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Right on!!!! Talk with Motorhead hear on GTA he’s our resident Taipan expert and does tuning including doing Cobra valve adaptation.
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Right on!!!! Talk with Motorhead hear on GTA he’s our resident Taipan expert and does tuning including doing Cobra valve adaptation.
Uh oh. I'll have to check and see what his tune prices are.
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Taipan in .177?
Did not know there is one, but, I want one😀.
WHUT? .177? I want one too. As long as we are getting our Taipan moons hung for us, how 'bout a grey-laminate Taipan Long in .20 ? My kingdom for one in .20. Will throw in wife's half of kingdom if it is a CZ-barreled .20.
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Taipan in .177?
Did not know there is one, but, I want one😀.
WHUT? .177? I want one too. As long as we are getting our Taipan moons hung for us, how 'bout a grey-laminate Taipan Long in .20 ? My kingdom for one in .20. Will throw in wife's half of kingdom if it is a CZ-barreled .20.
Yup. I just about died when Travis @ UTAG told me he had one. I basically couldn't get my wallet out fast enough.
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Looking sweet! My Taipan is my favorite gun. They just shoot so well, all day, every day. Congrats!
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You may not be religious, but somebody was look'n out for ya! 8)
Unless you're just about the luckiest man on the planet. LOL
Mike/Knife
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Had my Taipan Mutant .177 going on 3 yrs. it just 1of 5 with the factory conversion in the USA.
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You may not be religious, but somebody was look'n out for ya! 8)
Unless you're just about the luckiest man on the planet. LOL
Now that I think about it, you did have Travis and Travis looking out for ya. ;)
Mike/Knife
Mike/Knife
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I love a happy ending! :'( The gun looks like it is all business: form follows function. Which, BTW, I think is beautiful, LOL.
I am curious about how the barrel is supported. It looks like the solid barrel is secured in the breech and also at the two posts that support the scope mounting rail, with a narrow slot and pinch bolts? And then the moderator on the front end is mounted directly on the barrel, but not touching the front scope post? Is that correct? Is the barrel unusually fat, like maybe 15mm? Sorry for all the questions. Chris, you are a lucky guy!
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I love a happy ending! :'( The gun looks like it is all business: form follows function. Which, BTW, I think is beautiful, LOL.
I am curious about how the barrel is supported. It looks like the solid barrel is secured in the breech and also at the two posts that support the scope mounting rail, with a narrow slot and pinch bolts? And then the moderator on the front end is mounted directly on the barrel, but not touching the front scope post? Is that correct? Is the barrel unusually fat, like maybe 15mm? Sorry for all the questions. Chris, you are a lucky guy!
You are correct. Barrel is threaded into breech, then the two scope rail clamps tighten against it. The shroud is free floating. The awesome thing about this design is that it's a super simple machining project to machine a new barrel since it's just lead, crown, then threads at both ends. Since the barrel is supported at three points, it's incredibly stiff, so I'm contemplating getting a 20" .172 barrel made for it. The barrel looks to be 15mm or so. I'll mic it in just a sec
Edit: The barrel is 15mm
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Thanks for that additional info, Chris. Yes, it does make things easier (and better?) when there is no barrel port drilled thru the side of the barrel. And that 3 point barrel mounting makes for stiffness, although there is the floating barrel camp, too. But the field results are what really matter.
Lloyd
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Thanks for that additional info, Chris. Yes, it does make things easier (and better?) when there is no barrel port drilled thru the side of the barrel. And that 3 point barrel mounting makes for stiffness, although there is the floating barrel camp, too. But the field results are what really matter.
Lloyd
I still have to do further testing, but it looks like the gun might be sensitive to those clamps being too tight.
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=164580.msg155837351#msg155837351 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=164580.msg155837351#msg155837351)