So, looking for a gun for farmyard/backyard/plinking use. Criteria is .177, quiet, compact, lots of shots, in order of importance. Having a really hard time figuring out if I should get the Wildcat MKII right now, which will end up with ~80 shots tuned at 18 fpe and ~34" OAL. Or do I order the .177 Raptor Mini from JSAR, wait an unknown (minimum of 10?) weeks for it, then have a gun that will shoot, potentially, 150+ shots at 18 fpe and an OAL of ~40".I've always wanted a bullpup and the Wildcat seems like a really nice one with the forward cocking and FX X liner system. However, I've also always wanted a semi-custom gun from Travis ever since he was with WAR. I think the Raptor Mini is the better overall product, but who knows about parts support vs FX.
I'm pretty sure everyone goes through this same thing when buying a new gun. You are only considering two, That's not too difficult. I can't comment on the Raptor Mini from JSAR but I do have a .30 Wildcat MKII. It comes up to the shoulder very nicely, is accurate as I could ever hope, & I have not had any problems with it at all. I bought mine from Ken Hicks at SPAW & he sent a test target with lots of fps & other info. I'm thinking about getting a FX Crown in the future in .25 but am considering another Wildcat because it's just so nice in my opinion. You'll probably end up with more than one GUN at some point, so get the one that you prefer now. I doubt you'll be disappointed no matter which you decide to get. Quote from: UCChris on October 29, 2019, 02:43:10 PMSo, looking for a gun for farmyard/backyard/plinking use. Criteria is .177, quiet, compact, lots of shots, in order of importance. Having a really hard time figuring out if I should get the Wildcat MKII right now, which will end up with ~80 shots tuned at 18 fpe and ~34" OAL. Or do I order the .177 Raptor Mini from JSAR, wait an unknown (minimum of 10?) weeks for it, then have a gun that will shoot, potentially, 150+ shots at 18 fpe and an OAL of ~40".I've always wanted a bullpup and the Wildcat seems like a really nice one with the forward cocking and FX X liner system. However, I've also always wanted a semi-custom gun from Travis ever since he was with WAR. I think the Raptor Mini is the better overall product, but who knows about parts support vs FX.
I think I'll get the .177 Wildcat MKII, then order a Raptor HP in a .22 TJ slug barrel when I get out of a caliber restricted state.
Quote from: oldpro on October 29, 2019, 05:04:46 PMQuote from: wimpanzee on October 29, 2019, 03:17:09 PMPersonally I have had very good support from FX USA. Timely emails, phone calls answered, parts shipped under honored warranty.In comparison, I have received mostly defective or blemished products from JSAR. I think 4 out of 6 items ordered from there were unsatisfactory, including my dreamline, which got returned and after they tried to sell me a damaged refurb as new. The replacement had blemishes on the moderator as well, but I kept it rather than further engaging with the vendor. Absolutely no truth in that statement we NEVER sold a refurb as new and we dont carry FX guns in stock we get them directly from FX so you got exactly what they sent us.Sorry, but when you tell me you "personally replaced the barrel because it was bent from the factory" (This from SilentMatt) that makes it a refurb. It was refurbished from factory condition. I won't let you get away with this sort of behavior and call me a liar. I can show the emails I still have from the GTA PM's where Matt told me he refurbed the gun, as well as failed to notice the damage when it was shipped.
Quote from: wimpanzee on October 29, 2019, 03:17:09 PMPersonally I have had very good support from FX USA. Timely emails, phone calls answered, parts shipped under honored warranty.In comparison, I have received mostly defective or blemished products from JSAR. I think 4 out of 6 items ordered from there were unsatisfactory, including my dreamline, which got returned and after they tried to sell me a damaged refurb as new. The replacement had blemishes on the moderator as well, but I kept it rather than further engaging with the vendor. Absolutely no truth in that statement we NEVER sold a refurb as new and we dont carry FX guns in stock we get them directly from FX so you got exactly what they sent us.
Personally I have had very good support from FX USA. Timely emails, phone calls answered, parts shipped under honored warranty.In comparison, I have received mostly defective or blemished products from JSAR. I think 4 out of 6 items ordered from there were unsatisfactory, including my dreamline, which got returned and after they tried to sell me a damaged refurb as new. The replacement had blemishes on the moderator as well, but I kept it rather than further engaging with the vendor.
Quote from: wimpanzee on October 29, 2019, 05:24:44 PMQuote from: oldpro on October 29, 2019, 05:04:46 PMQuote from: wimpanzee on October 29, 2019, 03:17:09 PMPersonally I have had very good support from FX USA. Timely emails, phone calls answered, parts shipped under honored warranty.In comparison, I have received mostly defective or blemished products from JSAR. I think 4 out of 6 items ordered from there were unsatisfactory, including my dreamline, which got returned and after they tried to sell me a damaged refurb as new. The replacement had blemishes on the moderator as well, but I kept it rather than further engaging with the vendor. Absolutely no truth in that statement we NEVER sold a refurb as new and we dont carry FX guns in stock we get them directly from FX so you got exactly what they sent us.Sorry, but when you tell me you "personally replaced the barrel because it was bent from the factory" (This from SilentMatt) that makes it a refurb. It was refurbished from factory condition. I won't let you get away with this sort of behavior and call me a liar. I can show the emails I still have from the GTA PM's where Matt told me he refurbed the gun, as well as failed to notice the damage when it was shipped. If the damage was due to shipping from FX to JSAR, JSAR should have let FX deal with it. However, JSAR decided to personally replace the bent barrel liner. FX would have done the same anyway. In my book, that is going "Above and Beyond" due to JSAR's capability as an airgun shop and the retailer. I suggest JSAR never go above and beyond where its not needed. I had a similar situation in providing service, my situation never turned south but never again will I ever go above and beyond where its not needed. people are willing to blame ya and burn ya. to the OP, if you will be shooting slugs later on. go with any AG that has that capability. Not just JSAR, many other AGs will shoot slugs out of the box for the same price. Mini Raptor looks good though and you have many other reviews about the quality already. FX airguns are also nice with the slug liners...but it gets pricey...
Quote from: darkcharisma on October 29, 2019, 11:00:24 PMQuote from: wimpanzee on October 29, 2019, 05:24:44 PMQuote from: oldpro on October 29, 2019, 05:04:46 PMQuote from: wimpanzee on October 29, 2019, 03:17:09 PMPersonally I have had very good support from FX USA. Timely emails, phone calls answered, parts shipped under honored warranty.In comparison, I have received mostly defective or blemished products from JSAR. I think 4 out of 6 items ordered from there were unsatisfactory, including my dreamline, which got returned and after they tried to sell me a damaged refurb as new. The replacement had blemishes on the moderator as well, but I kept it rather than further engaging with the vendor. Absolutely no truth in that statement we NEVER sold a refurb as new and we dont carry FX guns in stock we get them directly from FX so you got exactly what they sent us.Sorry, but when you tell me you "personally replaced the barrel because it was bent from the factory" (This from SilentMatt) that makes it a refurb. It was refurbished from factory condition. I won't let you get away with this sort of behavior and call me a liar. I can show the emails I still have from the GTA PM's where Matt told me he refurbed the gun, as well as failed to notice the damage when it was shipped. If the damage was due to shipping from FX to JSAR, JSAR should have let FX deal with it. However, JSAR decided to personally replace the bent barrel liner. FX would have done the same anyway. In my book, that is going "Above and Beyond" due to JSAR's capability as an airgun shop and the retailer. I suggest JSAR never go above and beyond where its not needed. I had a similar situation in providing service, my situation never turned south but never again will I ever go above and beyond where its not needed. people are willing to blame ya and burn ya. to the OP, if you will be shooting slugs later on. go with any AG that has that capability. Not just JSAR, many other AGs will shoot slugs out of the box for the same price. Mini Raptor looks good though and you have many other reviews about the quality already. FX airguns are also nice with the slug liners...but it gets pricey...Even after the replaced barrel, the shroud was still dented, the end cap had a huge blemish on it, and it had to be returned. The replacement to that was still blemished in the LDC where it had a spot completely missing paint. These are things I saw in the first 5 seconds of opening the box. I don't understand how anyone could work on that,, box it back up, and claim to not know it was there. It was literally part of the gun that was worked on. Still unacceptable, and far from "above and beyond".I should also mention that they shipped the second rifle in the box from the first gun, so now my serials don't match either.And Travis, you sure get really defensive every single time anyone brings up issues with your products and service. That's a hallmark to me.
Chris, you have done very well with purchasing a Taipan in .177thats what you wanted and thats an EXCELLENT choice
Taipan in .177?Did not know there is one, but, I want one😀.Mitch
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