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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: Kinetic45^ on July 18, 2019, 08:17:11 PM
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So YouTube is notorious for arbitrary and capriciously blocking or demonitizing channels of airgunners (along with other groups they don't like).
People keep saying "Someone needs to just set up a different one" but no one had (I had tried to get the NRA to do something for gun videos but never could get to a 'decision maker')
So 'some people' set up an alternative that's new but will grow if WE, THE AIRGUN COMMUNITY patronize it with enough views / traffic and we can flip the bird at the SJW and anti-everything fun agenda crowd.
Here's the link
https://airgun101.com/ (https://airgun101.com/)
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👍
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Fantastic idea!
Giles is pretty much the brain behind it. who would a thought? LOL
I've tried watching it, however the vid's keep freezing, while the audio continues. Very frustrating. No doubt, it is my ancient operating system. However, no issues anywhere else. :(
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I'm subscribed to it. We got to help this cause out. Some really good people have put it together, with some hard work and money, and I hope it succeeds. ;)
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I’ve been enjoying it for a month or two now. It’s got just about all the channels I was watching on YouTube, plus some more I didn’t know about but now I really like them.
Giles, your our hero!
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I subscribed two weeks ago, didn't think about mentioning it here though. Way to go for catching that.
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Thanks Carl! The first I have heard of it.
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Tried to subscribe but not sure it took. No Email received .. yet.
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Tried to subscribe but not sure it took. No Email received .. yet.
The confirmation email was instant for me. You might try again...
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I will sub for sure. I saw a few videos that were uhhh taken off of other sources.
Great idea!
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Just what I need , another Airgun based distraction instead of actually doing something . This one gets two thumbs up. Just subscribed .
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Tried to subscribe but not sure it took. No Email received .. yet.
Check junk mail? I received the email almost immediately as well.
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Tried to subscribe but not sure it took. No Email received .. yet.
Great site, I just subscribed yesterday. Email took awhile for me then ended up in my “junk” file so keep an eye out for it there. 2 other sites I go directly to, to watch their videos are Steve Criner’s and Les Johnson’s. Steve does hunting videos dedicated to air gun hunting, sponsored by Umarex, so you can guess who’s guns he uses. He really gets pumped when he takes down something. Maybe their vids could be added to the Airgun 101 site. Wonderful site, nonetheless.
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Subscribed!
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Signed up..finally got my email.
Oh man you have the slingshot channel on there! I use to watch and follow him years ago...Bought one of his slingshots. Dual flat bands,45# pull,Shot 38 cal. lead balls out of it... that thing was bad @@@
I love that guy he’s nuts... Lucky to be alive and still have all his digits.
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Signed up..finally got my email.
Oh man you have the slingshot channel on there! I use to watch and follow him years ago...Bought one of his slingshots. Dual flat bands,45# pull,Shot 38 cal. lead balls out of it... that thing was bad @@@
I love that guy he’s nuts... Lucky to be alive and still have all his digits.
Especially after he took a 1" steel ball bearing to the dome.
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subscribed... ;D
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Somewhat like paraphrasing the old saying:
"They came for my neighbor (powder shooters) and I did not speak out, then they came for me and there was no one to speak for me...."
https://bearingarms.com/tom-k/2019/07/18/youtube-ups-war-gun-channel-creators/ (https://bearingarms.com/tom-k/2019/07/18/youtube-ups-war-gun-channel-creators/)
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Subscribed!
Thanks for letting us know.
Archie
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I think its an excellent alternative to enjoy.
But I do miss Squirrel Hunter Channel...
Thanks Giles
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Saw a post by Edgunwest on AGN fighting for YouTubers rights and he had a link to this. Watched the whole thing, and although it's based on European law it was VERY interesting in that he outlines what's wrong and what they are doing to fight.
https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/youtube-banning-demoneitizing-airgun-channels (https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/youtube-banning-demoneitizing-airgun-channels)
https://www.fairtube.info/en (https://www.fairtube.info/en)
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UGEtube
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UGEtube
Huh?
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Ok I subscribed and replied to the email confirmation but have a question. When I receive the weekly emails from airgun101 with the new videos I cannot get the videos to open and play. I have to go to the you tube channel for the individual video makers to view them. Is that how its works or should the videos open from the emailed notice. Its kind of counter productive to still have to go thru you tube to view and a hassle as well.
I would rather not deal with you tube if at all possible. Is maybe my PC not allowing me to view the videos directly from the emails.
Mike .
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Ok I subscribed and replied to the email confirmation but have a question. When I receive the weekly emails from airgun101 with the new videos I cannot get the videos to open and play. I have to go to the you tube channel for the individual video makers to view them. Is that how its works or should the videos open from the emailed notice. Its kind of counter productive to still have to go thru you tube to view and a hassle as well.
I would rather not deal with you tube if at all possible. Is maybe my PC not allowing me to view the videos directly from the emails.
Mike .
Works for me, must be your system/settings
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Yep, the videos from the email pop right up a play for me as well.
You might go into IE settings and hit the reset to defaults button. I've had to do this before to get the links in emails to work again.
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Yep, the videos from the email pop right up a play for me as well.
You might go into IE settings and hit the reset to defaults button. I've had to do this before to get the links in emails to work again.
That's probably it since I have shutoff several features and do not allow any google or other tracking browsers to work on my PC.
Mike
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UGEtube
Huh?
Utah gun Exchange UGETube They have a non censored server for gun/hunting videos
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Also subscribed recently. Def recommend.
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I`m in. Anything we can do to undermine the looney left is a winner in my book.
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Would be nice if the site was open to EVERYONE and not just a select few.
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Would be nice if the site was open to EVERYONE and not just a select few.
Don't like reading that. Are you saying that they are censoring vendors? If so, we're back to YT policies and narrow line of thinking.
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Would be nice if the site was open to EVERYONE and not just a select few.
Don't like reading that. Are you saying that they are censoring vendors? If so, we're back to YT policies and narrow line of thinking.
It was very, very sad to read your response to this. Like with most things, you have to follow the money. I was really looking forward to seeing your videos on this new site. I think people are smart and will figure out what's really going on with this site eventually.
At least there is airgunflix.com (https://airgunflix.com/popular-airgun-videos-2019) that we can count on to be uncensored when viewing airgun videos.
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I know that I will get heat for my response to this but so be it, so sick of the Airgun politics in this industry. Typical end users will never see the inside of this big fat mess that's divided so many in the past year. I emailed Giles and asked a few questions that must have really offended him.
I took a look at the website and was curious how others have acquired space on it, is it primarily for FX Airguns or are other brands welcome? I added a few of your Airgun Gear Show videos to one of our websites. I'm sure that you have been busy with RMAC but I'm still interested to get some of my videos up on Airguns 101. If my videos don't fit the criteria please just let me know?
His response to me was not very pleasant and since then have heard nothing from him even after offering to do anything to help the guy. Back up about a year and a half ago when we started airgunflix.com I had reached out to all these guys for help, mind you I know most ALL of them personally. These guys would not lift a finger to help because no money was involved in the equation. Now people are flocking all over this site like it's a Godsend...meanwhile our site allows everyone to play, even those that I personally can't stand. This whole thing is all about money, property and prestige for these guys. Very sad
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I think Airgun 101 is good, very heavy on the FX for sure. There are others besides FX, so some diversity is available. I just took a look at airgunflix.com and that looks good too.
As far as money, youtube gave a platform that provided money and some people started to either supplement income or were able to make it a full time job. Satisfying the hoards, is a full time job requiring higher end equipment, etc. All that takes money and time, since Youtube has demonetized channels, a revenue stream has to be developed from somewhere. It may be one thing to have a full time job and do youtube on the side, however going from full time youtube gig to no money or greatly reduced is going to make them look at other revenue streams. If not being paid by via youtube, how do you make money, by advertising.
There is love for the game, yet how can a professional video airgunner make a living? Some are now asking for money from their viewers and that works too.
I would like to think that there is goodwill in the community, yet I have been around business long enough to know that goodwill does not pay a mortgage.
Just one man's opinion.
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UGEtube
Subscribed ...Thank you,
wll
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The majority of YouTubers make nothing off YouTube. We make our money from manufacturers and distributors paying us to showcase products they provide us. These companies won't pay unless you have a large subscriber base and a good amount of views per year. It's all about the numbers, self hosted sites do nothing for the creator but bring traffic to that said website. Its a great concept if everyone can play...if one person gets to pick and choose then that's going backwards.
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I agree. Thanks for the insight.
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it cost money to host a site .......... who ever is footing the bill should have the right to allow what the want and reject what they don't .
and we have the choice to go there or not , no arm twisting involved either way .
i subscribed :)
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I know that I will get heat for my response to this but so be it, so sick of the Airgun politics in this industry. Typical end users will never see the inside of this big fat mess that's divided so many in the past year. I emailed Giles and asked a few questions that must have really offended him.
I took a look at the website and was curious how others have acquired space on it, is it primarily for FX Airguns or are other brands welcome? I added a few of your Airgun Gear Show videos to one of our websites. I'm sure that you have been busy with RMAC but I'm still interested to get some of my videos up on Airguns 101. If my videos don't fit the criteria please just let me know?
His response to me was not very pleasant and since then have heard nothing from him even after offering to do anything to help the guy. Back up about a year and a half ago when we started airgunflix.com I had reached out to all these guys for help, mind you I know most ALL of them personally. These guys would not lift a finger to help because no money was involved in the equation. Now people are flocking all over this site like it's a Godsend...meanwhile our site allows everyone to play, even those that I personally can't stand. This whole thing is all about money, property and prestige for these guys. Very sad
Let's be real. Airgun 101 is funded by FX.
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I know that I will get heat for my response to this but so be it, so sick of the Airgun politics in this industry. Typical end users will never see the inside of this big fat mess that's divided so many in the past year. I emailed Giles and asked a few questions that must have really offended him.
I took a look at the website and was curious how others have acquired space on it, is it primarily for FX Airguns or are other brands welcome? I added a few of your Airgun Gear Show videos to one of our websites. I'm sure that you have been busy with RMAC but I'm still interested to get some of my videos up on Airguns 101. If my videos don't fit the criteria please just let me know?
His response to me was not very pleasant and since then have heard nothing from him even after offering to do anything to help the guy. Back up about a year and a half ago when we started airgunflix.com I had reached out to all these guys for help, mind you I know most ALL of them personally. These guys would not lift a finger to help because no money was involved in the equation. Now people are flocking all over this site like it's a Godsend...meanwhile our site allows everyone to play, even those that I personally can't stand. This whole thing is all about money, property and prestige for these guys. Very sad
Agreed. The love of money is the root of all evil. The politics and the unending hype machine of the airgun industry is grating. I remember well when Youtube started cracking down the FX boys circled their wagons around each other and left a lot of us independent channels out to dry. Thinning their competition in the process.
I never did move my videos over to you Dana, for no reason but laziness on my part and demoralization from Youtube restricting my most popular videos. I haven't done a real airgun hunting video in about 2 years except for a brief coon miss and a deer harvest with a .357. Over the next couple of weeks I'm going to try to back up all of my videos again. Youtube's terms of service is changing and I'd like to have everything stored up in case they can me at some point in the future. I'll shoot you an email about setting up on your channel.
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Hold on, Fx did not loly fund A-101. Giles did. Coas himi a pretty penny!
There are now a LOT of people posting and subscribing to it now. It is really coming alone!
Another hoster here is deep in the politics, yet is requesting to join his site as if he were not.
I am having issues with vid's on A-101 as well. The sound plays fine, however, the video freezes constantly. I will play with it and see if I can get it better.
Giles is working on getting it t the point that comments cam be posted. That is a Biggie to a lot of people.
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Hold on, Fx did not loly fund A-101. Giles did. Coas himi a pretty penny!
There are now a LOT of people posting and subscribing to it now. It is really coming alone!
Another hoster here is deep in the politics, yet is requesting to join his site as if he were not.
I am having issues with vid's on A-101 as well. The sound plays fine, however, the video freezes constantly. I will play with it and see if I can get it better.
Giles is working on getting it t the point that comments cam be posted. That is a Biggie to a lot of people.
The few videos I watched on that site were actually hosted by Vimeo.com.
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I subscribed a few weeks ago. They have some great videos there.
Buddyb
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I have been viewing videos on Airgun101 for a good while now. I am finding some info on a number of airguns that I am interested in, like the JSAR Raptor and FX MKII and some others. Lot's of other airgun related info as well. A good site if you ask me for airgun related videos and info.
I will say, for me, that a lot of the gun videos are not as detailed about the gun specifics as I would like. Although neat to see, they'll do a few trick shots, which doesn't really tell me much about the gun, especially if there is an x-sniper doing the trick shots, but is good to see the possible capabilities.
I do less YT now with this site available. I hope to see more airgun vendors on this site coming up. Thanks to all that provide this site for us to enjoy and learn from! I'm not interested in the politics when I get some play time.
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I'm with you Keith! That is twice the same person has posted false allegations here on the forum. I'm beginning to get tired of it. I have NO patients for a Shill.
I'm here for the enjoyment. Not the Drama! :(
Mike
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I subbed as soon as I found out about it. The only issue I have is audio won't stop even when I leave the site and I have to restart my phone. Giles said more features are coming and I hope he can keep the site going youtube is becoming very unfriendly for folks like us posting outdoors related content.
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I'm with you Keith! That is twice the same person has posted false allegations here on the forum. I'm beginning to get tired of it. I have NO patients for a Shill.
I'm here for the enjoyment. Not the Drama! :(
Mike
Well, I like him and his videos too (Slayer guy). It would be great if all could play nice, but that's asking for too much these days. Money has a tendency to muddy the waters, especially when not focused on loving thy neighbor.
Those Airgun101 weekly emails are really helpful and I like receiving them. They don't let you forget that they exist.
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I am subscribed to Airgun 101 and watch a ton of videos on there. Hopefully it can expand.
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Well that blows...My interwebs are't fast enough to play any of the vids
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My windows 11 will not play them but firefox does just fine so all's good here.
BD