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Airguns by Make and Model => Hatsan Airguns => Topic started by: watersteps on April 10, 2018, 07:08:53 PM
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Hello All,
I just received my Hatsan Torpedo 100X air rifle. I decided to go with the wood stock and gas piston. UPS dropped it off and the package was in great condition. The inside box was also A OK but some of the foam shipping pads did get broken. No damage to the rifle that I can see at this time.
I will leave it in the workshop to warm up tonight and then tomorrow I will take some test shots.
Rifle was shipped from Pyramyd Air.
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Wade, Congratulations! Hope you get a good shooter !
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Hello All,
I just received my Hatsan Torpedo 100X air rifle. I decided to go with the wood stock and gas piston. UPS dropped it off and the package was in great condition. The inside box was also A OK but some of the foam shipping pads did get broken. No damage to the rifle that I can see at this time.
I will leave it in the workshop to warm up tonight and then tomorrow I will take some test shots.
Rifle was shipped from Pyramyd Air.
Congratulations on the new rifle. Report back with your results, and impressions. I recently purchased my first Hatsan, and am pleased with it.
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... and pics! We love us some pics!
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Is this a under lever cocking AG from Hatsan. Wow !
Yeas! Love to see some pictures too!!
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Morning Guys,
This is an underlever, Vortex gas piston with the walnut stock.
The rifle came with front and rear fiber optic sights, Hatasn rifle sling, scope lock clamp, several allen wrenches for the sights and the trigger adjustment.
Well the rifle warmed up from being in a shippers truck yesterday so I decided to start working on her.
Pictures will follow.
First the stock and the checkering are beautiful, the checkering is perfect, no slips or scratches on the boarder lines.
The rifle is very heavy and I love it.
I started by removing the sight completely, if I can find a new front sight I will remove the fiber optic top of this sight.
( If I alter something on a rifle I like to have a new replacement part just in case I want to put it back to original.)
Now I decided on using a used Tasco 3x9x40 scope to start testing. I have a new adjustable Hatsan scope but I'll go with the Tasco for now. I used a new set of mounts that lock in the sight bar so no moving around I hope.
Ok now the most important part, cocking the rifle, I followed the Hatsan instructions, and grabbed the under lever.
Holy tomoly!! this think is ain't no childs toy. Yes I cocked it, but only by setting the butt of the stock on the floor.
This thing has some extreme guts.
I locked up the under lever and opened the bolt/barrel. The breach opening or pellet loading area is also super. Big enough for huge fingers to place a pellet in the barrel.
Ok now step outside the shop door and try a shot at my 15 yard target.
Well it is not a loud 30-06 noise but it does make some noise. Recoil was definitely there but not bad at all.
The first shot was a quick shot because it is 20 degrees out here.
Checked the target and windage was off to the right by 16 inches, elevation was right in line with the bulls eye.
This was off hand no rests right now.
Ok back inside now, I will wait until it warms up a little.
To say the least I am totally pleased with this rifle.
More testing later with some pic's.
Wade
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Sorry Guys,
I give up on trying to load pictures on this forum. I tried 8, then 6, then 4, I still get an error message that my file is to big!!!!
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Sorry Guys,
I give up on trying to load pictures on this forum. I tried 8, then 6, then 4, I still get an error message that my file is to big!!!!
Try emailing it to yourself. Then download that picture. Then post the picture you downloaded.That's how I have to do it.
I agree this method is cumbersome... I wish they could change the parameters for the size of the file that can be loaded, as a pic. Then I could post pics directly from my phone...
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Congrats on the new rifle. The photos can not be bigger than 650KB each and 3500KB total to upload and attach to your post. You can resize them to get them smaller. I use http://www.picresize.com/ (http://www.picresize.com/) If you right click on your photos and go to properties it will show you the size. 1MB is 1000KB. You can also take the photos at a lower resolution to make them smaller from the start.
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Here is one pic.
Wade
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OK that worked, I will try some more in little bit.
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I will try to talk about the pictures that are attached.
The checkering in the previous pic and in one of these pics, is great.
Picture of the open bolt and closed bolt.
Front sight, this is the one that I want to remove the top portion of, just the fiber optics.
This pic also shows the only thing about this rifle that I did not like. The hole that the allen set screw is screwed into to hold the front sight on, show what looks like rust on the threads???
The trigger and the adjusting screws.
And the butt plate or pad.
If all of these pics will not tranfer, look in my next post.
Wade
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More pics and thanks to MI YETA, the picresize works great.
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OK now if you click on the pics they will jump up in size.
Why don't I have some test results??
Well mama wanted to go to the store just when I wanted to set up the shooting bench. Well we went to the store!
When we got back we had appointments to get our hair cut.
So no testing today.
Here is a thought to ponder over, the barrel and the bolt are one in the same. When you open the bolt the barrel slides forward and then back when you close it. OK that works great and I like it but, if it slides, I would hope that when the bolt is closed the end of the barrel would be snug in the barrel pipe or tube.
If I can find a service manual I might be able to figure this out. You may say why? Well I believe the rifle would be considerably more accurate if the barrel was always in the same plane as the barrel tube. Maybe if I find another front sight I can remove this one and see what is holding the end of the barrel.??
At this point I don't know that it is even a problem, just thinking.
Later Wade
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Wade, what is wrong with the front sight?
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https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1711/3177/files/MOD_100X_Torpedo-Exploded_View-June2013.pdf?4534776144995088084
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No problem, glad you were able to get your photos posted. Hatsan uses some nice wood for their rifles. Have you had time to shoot it any? The couple hatsan made break barrels that I have owned had some rust when new.
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The front sight is fine, I just wonder why there is rust in the threads of this plastic sight. The rust must have come off of the set screw that was screwed into the sight. I will check it out then. I want to remove the fiber optic part of the front sight anyway. But I would like to have another original front sight to replace the altered one if I decide to change it back.
I still need to find a place to purchase parts for this Hatsan.
And thanks to REACTOR NIN for the parts diagram.
I have only fired this rifle one time, I will be sighting in the scope and checking group size today.
One quick question, the manufacturer says to clean the rifle bore after 500 shots. That bothers me, I would think you should clean it after 10 to 20 shots??????
Anyone think different?
Wade
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LOL. You should thanks James instead of me. He's the one who sent you the link for the parts diagram. He is a knowledgeable member here. IMO. Your walnut stock is gorgeous !
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OK now if you click on the pics they will jump up in size.
Why don't I have some test results??
Well mama wanted to go to the store just when I wanted to set up the shooting bench. Well we went to the store!
When we got back we had appointments to get our hair cut.
So no testing today.
Here is a thought to ponder over, the barrel and the bolt are one in the same. When you open the bolt the barrel slides forward and then back when you close it. OK that works great and I like it but, if it slides, I would hope that when the bolt is closed the end of the barrel would be snug in the barrel pipe or tube.
If I can find a service manual I might be able to figure this out. You may say why? Well I believe the rifle would be considerably more accurate if the barrel was always in the same plane as the barrel tube. Maybe if I find another front sight I can remove this one and see what is holding the end of the barrel.??
At this point I don't know that it is even a problem, just thinking.
Later Wade
Good looking rifle. I may have to take one for a test drive.
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OK first report on test firing the Torpedo 100X.
As I said before I mounted an old Tasco scope that I had for years, on the rifle.
The first 4 shots at 15 yards were 4 inches low and to the right by 6 inches. About a 4 inch group.
Well I started adjusting the windage and elevation. The next 4 shots were still 4 inches low and about 4 inches to the right.
The problem here is that I turned the windage almost 1 complete turn and the elevation about 1/4 of a turn!!!
Something is not working with this scope, I will change it out for my new Hatsan scope today.
Now I want you guys to tell me the truth, do you use a cheater pipe on your underlever air rifle?????
Look at the following pics, forget about the back ground in the pics. This is my work shop.
Here is the Hatsan lever arm before cocking and here is a cheater bar that I am using.
It is 14 inches long and hollow, I slid a piece of rubber inner tube inside of it to protect the lever finish.
I push it over the lever about 4 inches. This makes it really simple to cock the rifle.
Ok I guess I'm a wimp now, but it sure makes it easy to keep cocking and shooting.
Later after the scope is changed out.
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OH! One more thing, I need to answer REACTOR NIN's question.
There is nothing wrong with the front sight physically. I just don't like the little orange fiber optic showing up in my scope. And I like the smooth look of a flat front sight area when you don't use the front sight.
Like I said before when I find a parts supplier I will purchase a new front sight for a replacement if I decide to go with open sights later on.
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The front sight is fine, I just wonder why there is rust in the threads of this plastic sight. The rust must have come off of the set screw that was screwed into the sight. I will check it out then. I want to remove the fiber optic part of the front sight anyway. But I would like to have another original front sight to replace the altered one if I decide to change it back.
I still need to find a place to purchase parts for this Hatsan.
And thanks to REACTOR NIN for the parts diagram.
I have only fired this rifle one time, I will be sighting in the scope and checking group size today.
One quick question, the manufacturer says to clean the rifle bore after 500 shots. That bothers me, I would think you should clean it after 10 to 20 shots??????
Anyone think different?
Wade
Airguns don't require much cleaning. Every 500 shots is likely to often. Clean it well when you get a new airgun, the barrel will be filthy when new. Clean again when you notice the accuracy with a known accurate pellet get worse. After cleaning accuracy may not return until the barrel is seasoned by shooting a bit.
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TEST NUMBER 2,
I left the Tasco scope on the rifle just to see if it really did need more adjustment. I adjusted the elevation and windage and fired another pellet. This was much better 1 3/4 inches right of the bulls eye and elevation wise it was dead center bulls eye.
I made no adjustments and the next 3 shots were 1 1/2 inches right of the bull but 4 inches below.
These 3 shots were in a 1 1/4 inch group.
Maybe after I adjust the scope it takes a shot or two for the scope to settle in to the adjustment. I'm going to let it sit for a while and then I will shoot again.
By the way I checked the barrel for dirt and it was clean.
Later
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Thumbs up! Nice shooting. The more you shoot, the better you are. Keep it up and shoot safe.
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Yup a few more pellets down the barrel and it will seem like a different gun. Hopefully in a good way :)
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Ok let's sum up this rifle.
It looks super, very nice wood stock, rifle sling brackets installed and rifle sling included.
Adjustable fiber optic rear sight and fixed fiber optic front sight.
The rifle is heavy, around 12 lbs.
Noise level is about the same as firing a long rifle 22 rim fire rifle.
Trigger is adjustable and feels good.
The under lever is about 12 inches long and it take some oomf to cock her.
I love the bolt/barrel loading system with plenty of room to load pellets even with huge fingers.
I only fired less then 20 shots so far but it looks like this rifle will be a fly killer at 20 yards with no problem.
I would buy another one in a second.
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Ok let's sum up this rifle.
It looks super, very nice wood stock, rifle sling brackets installed and rifle sling included.
Adjustable fiber optic rear sight and fixed fiber optic front sight.
The rifle is heavy, around 12 lbs.
Noise level is about the same as firing a long rifle 22 rim fire rifle.
Trigger is adjustable and feels good.
The under lever is about 12 inches long and it take some oomf to cock her.
I love the bolt/barrel loading system with plenty of room to load pellets even with huge fingers.
I only fired less then 20 shots so far but it looks like this rifle will be a fly killer at 20 yards with no problem.
I would buy another one in a second.
Not sure if you just like your rifle, or... your enticing me into buying one...
JK, glad you’re liking you’re rifle. I’ve been looking hard at the Hatsans since my purchase of the .30 cal which I’m well pleased with.
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After a few hundred shots the gun should smooth out nicely and quiet down alot also. Glad you are enjoying your new under lever.
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Wade, well done. Try to zero your rifle after the break in period of your new rifle. SHOOT , SHOOT AND SHOOT! Observe your own holding of your rifle comfortably to get the best groupings. Try different pellets too. The heavier ones seen better for mine. Try zeroing with the open sight first to check that your bore, barrel, open sight ....are in align position. Try zeroing her at 10 metres and following up at 25 metres. IMO.. Shoot safely with your best position.
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TEST NUMBER 2,
I left the Tasco scope on the rifle just to see if it really did need more adjustment. I adjusted the elevation and windage and fired another pellet. This was much better 1 3/4 inches right of the bulls eye and elevation wise it was dead center bulls eye.
I made no adjustments and the next 3 shots were 1 1/2 inches right of the bull but 4 inches below.
These 3 shots were in a 1 1/4 inch group.
Maybe after I adjust the scope it takes a shot or two for the scope to settle in to the adjustment. I'm going to let it sit for a while and then I will shoot again.
By the way I checked the barrel for dirt and it was clean.
Later
I keep a rubber handle screwdriver on the shooting bench when adjusting a scope. After adjusting and before the next shot, tap the barrel of the scope in a few places. This allows the wire reticles to "settle" into the new position. Otherwise, it takes the recoil shock to do the same thing and you waste a shot getting the reticles settled in.
I like the Torpedo 100X. When Field Supply had them for $120 delivered (new not refurbed, steel spring version) I stocked up! ;)
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Use two hands cocking. I had a 100x springer. I sold it when I got a 155. Same gun only bigger. I grab the cocking lever with one hand and start down then reach around the gun and grab it with other hand and change hands now and then to keep from wearing out my shoulder joints.
Make sure the bolt is all the way down and locked when you shoot or it will sound like a 30-06 when it pops open.
One of my Hatsan bolt actions, I had two 155's, .22 and .177, the brass loading bolt handle would loosen and the little brass cap on the cocking lever release would also loosen so I Blue lock-tite them.
I don't like the looks (or need it) front sight assembly either on the 100x, 155 or Dominator. I have a Dominator carbine and like the way that looks. I wish the front end of my Proxima was like the Dominator carbine. It might one day when it also becomes a springer.
If you look in the China gate some guys have removed the front sight on their XS 46U's (looks about the same) and used a B3 barrel clip instead. Looks okay. I've seen a B3 where a small magnet inside shrink wrap on the cocking lever was used with a small hole in the shrink wrap where it touches the barrel
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During prolonged break-in shooting events with my hatsan 125 spring piston I had to switch hands occasionally, was hard to stop shooting, the darn thing , and my muscles remembered it the next day.
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Hey Guys I solved the cocking problem, see my post (Front of Barrel) in this gate.
Wade