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Title: Interesting observation
Post by: BenjiHunter on September 10, 2017, 10:35:13 PM
I took a few shots with different shirts today and without a shirt. I bet no one has tried that. ;D
I usually have a cotton T-shirt when I shoot. I tested without a shirt and with "slippery" synthetic one. POI is completely different with  that "slippery" one or without a shirt.
With the slippery synthetic one , the shots where all over the place.
Just a little food for thought.  ;)
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: Novagun on September 10, 2017, 11:14:19 PM
Yes I have noticed that. There is a difference between a cotton shirt and a woolen jersey and if it is really cold and wearing a woolen jersey and a coat over the top the rifle doesn't fit like it should. I have also noticed a different fit of the rifle to the shoulder when changing from seated to prone shooting.
More varibles to confound the shooter but we do hit something sometimes.
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: GumpIsrael on September 10, 2017, 11:37:12 PM
I tried something similar about a year ago during the summer, similar results, I now no longer shoot springers with sleeveless shirts lol :D
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: BenjiHunter on September 11, 2017, 12:18:59 AM
Neither do I.
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: lizzie on September 11, 2017, 12:42:28 AM
Hmmmmm......
that may explain a few things....
hahahaha!
:D
(j/k)
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: BenjiHunter on September 11, 2017, 01:02:11 AM
 :D
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: longhunter on September 11, 2017, 08:07:53 AM
Hmmmmm......
that may explain a few things....
hahahaha!
:D
(j/k)

LIZZIE :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o!
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: Steelontarget on September 11, 2017, 08:24:13 AM
When I started shooting in highpower rifle competition years ago, the old-timers told me to get the best shooting jacket that money could buy and my scores would go up 40%.  By gosh they were right!  My scores did go up 40%!

I also have an old USMC shooting jacket with the shoulder and elbow pads.  Even on hot days, when I could tolerate it; I'd wear that jacket out ground hog hunting.  It was amazing how many of the long shots that I could make with the aid of that shooting jacket.

It won't work with the springers but if you're shooting a PCP wearing the USMC style shooting jacket should help with producing tighter groups.

I need to get me another one of those jackets and have come across a source for custom made shooting jackets made like the USMC versions.  I haven't placed my order yet because I'm not sure about what color I want.  She also makes them in camouflage.

She has a bare-bones web site but with enough information to tell you what your getting.  https://www.sites.google.com/site/notsostandardissue/home (https://www.sites.google.com/site/notsostandardissue/home)
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: anti-squirrel on September 11, 2017, 11:46:16 AM
This reminds me of the first time I shot my Mosin.  It took me a couple shots to recall it was designed for shooting in near-arctic conditions wearing a dozen layers of thick fabric.

I've found if I'm outside sweating heavily, I should stick to my pistols.  But I also generally wear wool shirts (Smartwool, Woolrich, etc) year round unless I'm making lots of sawdust.  Cotton works fine too; I prefer not wearing synthetic fibers against my skin...

... but looking back, the couple sessions I did shoot in some lightweight synthetics, I shot lousy groups.
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: Xraycer on September 12, 2017, 10:35:57 AM
I'm going to have to test this theory out from another perspective.......shooting in briefs, boxers, and commando ;D
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: lizzie on September 12, 2017, 10:37:11 AM
I'm going to have to test this theory out from another perspective.......shooting in briefs, boxers, and commando ;D

Hahahahahahahah!
:D
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: anti-squirrel on September 12, 2017, 11:11:31 AM
I'm going to have to test this theory out from another perspective.......shooting in briefs, boxers, and commando ;D
I have shot wearing just my PJs before and the squirrel died just the same as his brother did when I was all gussied up in a jeans, t-shirt, and hoodie.  Both time I wore flip-flops, so maybe that's the only thing I need to wear to ensure a clean kill.   :o :o ???
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: lizzie on September 12, 2017, 11:27:39 AM
LMBO- you guys are nutz!
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: Xraycer on September 12, 2017, 11:33:23 AM
I have shot wearing just my PJs before and the squirrel died just the same.............Both time I wore flip-flops
Were the PJs and flip-flops, solid color or camo patterned?
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: . on September 12, 2017, 11:44:50 AM
Y'all'z crazy!  ;)

But back on topic, yeah, what you wear, or don't, can really change your POIs, especially with springers. That's one of the biggest advantages with PCPs, that they seem to be practically immune to POI shifts from hold and stance issues.

Ok, now I gotta get the images y'all put in my head outta my head, ha ha!
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: anti-squirrel on September 12, 2017, 02:16:59 PM
I have shot wearing just my PJs before and the squirrel died just the same.............Both time I wore flip-flops
Were the PJs and flip-flops, solid color or camo patterned?
All-black Reefs with camo-pattern pj shorts and a solid green T.

Incidentally, I wore those same flip flops a few minutes ago re-sighting in my 2400KT and was johnny-on-the-spot, so these must be performance-shooting flip-flops.

Chickie (and Lizzie), just focus on making your shots, not worrying about us Y-chromosomes.  Cuz we're guys.  We're expected to be silly. :D
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: Steelontarget on September 12, 2017, 02:37:37 PM
Y'all'z crazy!  ;)

But back on topic, yeah, what you wear, or don't, can really change your POIs, especially with springers. That's one of the biggest advantages with PCPs, that they seem to be practically immune to POI shifts from hold and stance issues.

Ok, now I gotta get the images y'all put in my head outta my head, ha ha!

You won't get off that easy.

(https://twt-thumbs.washtimes.com/media/image/2014/02/19/afghan_7305_mugshot_four_by_three_c0-89-1061-707_s400x233.jpg?8f0b2137c36a7ef3059875cf1b3ed3ab87d65ed4)
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: GumpIsrael on September 13, 2017, 12:04:31 AM
/\ somebody woke up to a firefight /\

I definitely agree that dress has more influence on springers. I can say this with confidence, since the other night I pulled off a headshot on a rat while in only my boxers ;D
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: BenjiHunter on September 13, 2017, 12:35:42 AM
I'm going to have to test this theory out from another perspective.......shooting in briefs, boxers, and commando ;D
I have.
Same results. You need a cotton T-shirt to get good groups. :D
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: anti-squirrel on September 13, 2017, 12:39:57 PM
I'm going to have to test this theory out from another perspective.......shooting in briefs, boxers, and commando ;D
I have.
Same results. You need a cotton T-shirt to get good groups. :D
Why do I foresee an FT event and half the clowns show up clad in a t-shirt and nothing else?

Would make for some conversation, for sure.
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: Xraycer on September 13, 2017, 01:10:28 PM
I'm going to have to test this theory out from another perspective.......shooting in briefs, boxers, and commando ;D
I have.
Same results. You need a cotton T-shirt to get good groups. :D
Why do I foresee an FT event and half the clowns show up clad in a t-shirt and nothing else?

Would make for some conversation, for sure.
Well, I hope they at least have the common courtesy to do a thorough manscaping before the event :o
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: GumpIsrael on September 13, 2017, 02:03:03 PM
 ;D I wish there was a ROFL smiley on here this thread is gettin good ;D
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: Steelontarget on September 13, 2017, 02:59:37 PM
I'm going to have to test this theory out from another perspective.......shooting in briefs, boxers, and commando ;D
I have.
Same results. You need a cotton T-shirt to get good groups. :D

Oh yeah?  What about all those YouTube videos of women clad in bikinis that shoot so good with their rifles?  Not that I've ever watched any of those videos.
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: BenjiHunter on September 13, 2017, 03:06:56 PM
Women in bikini shooting?
I don't know what you are talking about!
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: Steelontarget on September 13, 2017, 03:07:52 PM
Women in bikini shooting?
I don't know what you are talking about!

Spoken like a true gentleman!
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: anti-squirrel on September 13, 2017, 03:15:43 PM
I'm going to have to test this theory out from another perspective.......shooting in briefs, boxers, and commando ;D
I have.
Same results. You need a cotton T-shirt to get good groups. :D

Oh yeah?  What about all those YouTube videos of women clad in bikinis that shoot so good with their rifles?  Not that I've ever watched any of those videos.
Built in harmonic dampeners.

I apologize if I offended anybody.
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: Steelontarget on September 13, 2017, 03:17:23 PM
I'm going to have to test this theory out from another perspective.......shooting in briefs, boxers, and commando ;D
I have.
Same results. You need a cotton T-shirt to get good groups. :D

Oh yeah?  What about all those YouTube videos of women clad in bikinis that shoot so good with their rifles?  Not that I've ever watched any of those videos.
Built in harmonic dampeners.

I apologize if I offended anybody.


I don't get it?  Do you have a picture or video that could explain it?
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: Xraycer on September 13, 2017, 03:17:56 PM

[What about all those YouTube videos of women clad in bikinis that shoot so good with their rifles?
This the only positive thing about recoil ;D
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: Mr. Panther on September 14, 2017, 02:35:57 AM
     Thanks for the link Mike. I surely did love shooting in those jackets when we did the KD courses at Lejuene. I've tried a couple others out, but even if they didn't fit exactly they were one of the best I have ever used for shooting distance. ( Of course a good sling helped too LOL). To be on topic, I have never shot a springer while dressed in a bikini so I couldn't comment on it.
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: lizzie on September 14, 2017, 07:00:41 AM
I'm going to have to test this theory out from another perspective.......shooting in briefs, boxers, and commando ;D
I have.
Same results. You need a cotton T-shirt to get good groups. :D

Oh yeah?  What about all those YouTube videos of women clad in bikinis that shoot so good with their rifles?  Not that I've ever watched any of those videos.
Built in harmonic dampeners.

I apologize if I offended anybody.


HAHAHAHA
funneeeeeee
:D
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: Steelontarget on September 14, 2017, 10:24:38 AM
     Thanks for the link Mike. I surely did love shooting in those jackets when we did the KD courses at Lejuene. I've tried a couple others out, but even if they didn't fit exactly they were one of the best I have ever used for shooting distance. ( Of course a good sling helped too LOL). To be on topic, I have never shot a springer while dressed in a bikini so I couldn't comment on it.

That's a picture that I don't want in my head.
Title: Re: Interesting observation
Post by: Mr. Panther on September 14, 2017, 10:29:14 AM
Too late Mike