Dual fuel question, connection & bleeder valve

[YoteMaster]

My scuba shop does a wonderful job supporting paintball users (and thus, us). They sold me a super well built valve & hardware that connects my HPA tank to my Mrod... shazam! The only thing I need to get is an optional extension hose for convenience. As a matter of importance, this hardware includes he bleeder valve.

The hardware sold by my scuba shop is top notch. Wow. Better built than most paintball  accessories that I have seen.

My question is about another device (ordered but not yet received)  that I purchased online but I think it is unnecessary for me (now that I have this "better" one). It is supposedly a "dual fuel"  adapter implying, I think, that it includes a bleeder value for HPA. I bleeder valve is actually great for CO2 and HPA in my opinion. Anything else that could make this device special? If not, I am returning it because what I have (much better) will work for either CO2 or HPA.

Am I on track?

https://www.pyramydair.com/product/benjamin-co2-air-fill-adapter-fits-benjamin-air-tank-or-standard?a=2153

[amb5500c]

A bleeder valve is essential. Without one it would be a dangerous situation to attempt to disconnect the gun from the hose. And you "might" want to rethink the longer hose. The shorter the hose, the less air you waste when you bleed the pressure each time you disconnect.
Richard

[YoteMaster]

Indeed, the bleeder valve is essential on HPA. Benjamin's CO2 filler/adapter does not have one, but I think it should, big mistake. Oh well.  The longer hose is not THAT much longer; maybe 12-18" longer, but folks can buy whatever length they choose.

This is what I got; I discovered a much superior product. This unit is two pieces (pictures attached). Extremely well built! Heavy. Beefy. Stainless steel. Includes a push button bleeder valve; you only need to add a hose (easy to find). Photos attached. More photos in zip file.

XS Scuba, Paintball Filler, P/N AC390

Update: 1/23/2013

I ended up exchanging this for a second 3000 psi scuba tank. It is an outstanding product but overkill for most of us and pricey. It was around $120, but is a fine product; if you get it I envy you!

To see my final choices, follow this... http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=41506.msg388696#msg388696

[YoteMaster]

Hose that works with the above:


Update: 1/23/2013

I ended up going with this hose and this adapter http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=41506.msg389237#msg389237

[YoteMaster]

I ended up using a scuba tank (which is also HPA, high-pressure air). 3000psi. :-)

BTW, XS Scuba offers at least 2 versions of the AC390. Mine has a push button bleeder type, they also sell a thumb screw bleeder type.

[YoteMaster]

BTW, no intent to diss PyramydAir unless the shoe fits...

They sent me a used (assume returned) item, that was bashed on the corner, and did not work (broken bleeder valve).

https://www.pyramydair.com/product/benjamin-co2-air-fill-adapter-fits-benjamin-air-tank-or-standard?a=2153

Moreover, this isn't even the version of the product they sent! Weird!

Does Pyramyd have a rep of shipping returned items as if they were new? Hope not. Hope this was just an honest mistake. I might have chosen to keep this less expensive filler/adapter (and return the expensive one) had it worked.

Does anyone have problems with the reliability or quality of this Benjamin make & model?

Thanks,
Yote

[YoteMaster]

Price, quality and ease of use this product probably scores high. I want to pass this on to the other newbies. Get this and the connection hose (earlier post on this thread) and you're golden.



My guess is that the 3000 psi rating stamped on it is based on the fact that this is the de facto standard for scuba tanks, this limits "confusion" in the marketplace.

BTW, there is a cheaper product that looks similar to this one, don't be fooled. The make/model is important! The "other" one has lots of complaints of leaking and other misadventures.

Update: 1/23/2013

I ended up going with this adapter/filler.