Author Topic: BBT's at NOE (Read 7201 times))

rsterne · « **on:** October 13, 2015, 06:50:23 PM »

I have been contacted by Al Nelson of NOE Bullet Molds and I am supplying them with a bunch of my latest designs for Bob's Boattails.... They made be found here, there is a separate thread on each design....

http://noebulletmolds.com/smf/index.php/board,24.0.html

All these designs follow the concept used in the "Whiteout" with only two points of contact with the barrel.... the rear of the nose Ogive and a driving band at the back, just in front of the boattail.... All designs 2.0 calibers and longer use the new 8* boattail, while shorter bullets have the older 10*, as they are too short for the shallower BT to fit.... I am supplying Al with designs for several weights in different calibers.... If you are interested in any of them, please register on the NOE Forum and comment on the thread for each mold you might be interested in getting.... That way Al can measure the interest on the various weights....

The drive bands will be enlarged to 0.002" over the caliber (thanks, bluethunder!), plus all designs can be made to whatever diameter you want, within reason.... I am not receiving any compensation from NOE, my only interest here, as always, is to increase the quality and availability of boattails for airguns....

Bob

C.ALLS · « **Reply #1 on:** October 13, 2015, 07:12:21 PM »

I really hope this works out. Any chance they'll make the Whiteout bullet as well?

StevenG · « **Reply #2 on:** October 13, 2015, 07:18:09 PM »

Anyone selling the cast boolits yet?
Not much interest in casting, but I do want to shoot them.

sixshootertexan · « **Reply #3 on:** October 13, 2015, 07:37:37 PM »

Good deal Bob. Glad it worked out for you. I'll defiantly be ordering one soon I hope.

Rizen 1 · « **Reply #4 on:** October 13, 2015, 07:45:26 PM »

Great stuff Bob!!! I am going to "MOZEY ON OVER" to the forum and register to put my 2 cents in!!!!

rsterne · « **Reply #5 on:** October 13, 2015, 10:58:48 PM »

Once Al has all the lighter SD designs on the website I will request the Whiteout, plus a 172 gr. .308cal I have drawn up.... and also a 111 gr. in .257.... and maybe a 7mm or two if I can, also some .224s.... He is working on the .40 and .45 cal drawings now, and I will be sending him some for airgun barrels in .217", .250", and .300" next.... What gets produced will depend on feedback....

Bob

QVTom · « **Reply #6 on:** October 14, 2015, 02:14:16 AM »

Let's hope NOE can follow the print LOL. One thing I've from several casting experts is that Veral makes the bullet he wants which often doesn't match what was asked for. I assume that NOE doesn't have the limitations of Accurate regarding the metplat and boattail diameters. Good stuff to follow

Tom

rsterne · « **Reply #7 on:** October 14, 2015, 02:59:35 AM »

NOE can make Spitzers or small Meplats, no problem there.... They can do narrower Boattails than Accurate, Al will be having speaks with his toolmaker to see how small they can go.... None of my designs are smaller than 70% of the caliber, so hopefully they can do that....

Bob

rintafile · « **Reply #8 on:** October 14, 2015, 03:20:45 AM »

I hope bullet casters from here jump in because lately it is been very hard to people get interested small calibers like .257, 223, etc

PakProtector · « **Reply #9 on:** October 14, 2015, 10:32:07 AM »

I'd be in for a .224...

I have the 14" twist TJ barrel so that perhaps puts a crimp on my OAL/weight...going to get a .225WFN from NOE as soon as he has made a 3-cav with one HP pin( love that huge meplat ). A BBT would not be unwelcome.
cheers,
Douglas

rsterne · « **Reply #10 on:** October 14, 2015, 12:20:26 PM »

Teemu, part of the problem is that Accurate wouldn't do molds smaller than .30 cal.... or bases smaller than 0.25"....

Douglas, the problem is that once you add a boattail, your twist rate may not be enough.... I drew up a 39 gr. in .217 cal last night, that would fit a Hatsan (or MRod .25) magazine, and it needed a 12" twist....

Bob

K.O. · « **Reply #11 on:** October 14, 2015, 03:01:14 PM »

Quote from: rsterne on October 14, 2015, 12:20:26 PM

Teemu, part of the problem is that Accurate wouldn't do molds smaller than .30 cal.... or bases smaller than 0.25"....

Douglas, the problem is that once you add a boattail, your twist rate may not be enough.... I drew up a 39 gr. in .217 cal last night, that would fit a Hatsan (or MRod .25) magazine, and it needed a 12" twist....

Bob

Size it up to about a 1.7-1.8 caliber .224 and I bet 1:14 is just about right, at 2 calibers and 41 grains it was a 1:12 twist in this thread

http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=83019.0

I am crazy enough I would try it in my Marlin barrel 1:16 twist (which a friend said stabilized the 60g subs out to the 50 yards he was shooting)( found a y-tube vid of that also)

I think that a .224 (35-40g)that did not need big power mods just a barrel to work with a stock Mrod and such might be a big seller because of being an easy path to cast... would even be hand pumpable...

another big seller would be a light .25 that worked in a stock Mrod .25 barrel... tall drive bands with a body right about choke size?

Hmm I think we need a New Gate

Cast boolits for PCP.......

rintafile · « **Reply #12 on:** October 14, 2015, 04:30:55 PM »

Quote from: rsterne on October 14, 2015, 12:20:26 PM

Teemu, part of the problem is that Accurate wouldn't do molds smaller than .30 cal.... or bases smaller than 0.25"....
Bob

That's why I have about 40 NOE's mould. And that is only place at this moment who makes spitzers...But even if You find nice mold we need 10 buyers to get that mold if that isn't already on NOE's list. Inventory runs need only 5 buyers

KnifeMaker · « **Reply #13 on:** October 15, 2015, 12:11:18 AM »

Al has been my "Go To" Mold maker for the .257, and I couldn't be happier! Superb in all respects. Good looking molds, bullets, and stellar accuracy

Knife

rintafile · « **Reply #14 on:** October 15, 2015, 03:53:16 AM »

Yeah that's true. I got all .257 mold's which NOE has made so far

...ouch, wait one version hasn't got both PB and GC version..

rintafile · « **Reply #15 on:** October 17, 2015, 03:29:05 AM »

There is not much attention what should wish to get those BBT-molds... or I'm just impatient. But still wish that bullet casters here who are interested those Bob's molds would come and say they words on NOE's forum.Really liked to get those in NOE's version..Thanks

rsterne · « **Reply #16 on:** October 17, 2015, 07:57:33 PM »

More calibers and weights now posted.... Designs are there in .224, .257, .308, .357, .408 and .458 calibers for those using PB barrels, plus .217, .250, and .300 for the airgun only barrels.... I have sent Al some 7mm (.284 cal) as well.... Anyone interested in 6mm (.243 cal) make a post over there and ask, and maybe Al will let me add that....

http://noebulletmolds.com/smf/index.php/board,24.0.html .... Just don't say I prompted you....

It is important that anyone interested in cast bullets post in that gate, in every thread that has a bullet you would like to own or have a serious interest in.... The ones that are the most popular will likely proceed either to production or to a group buy.... If you don't say anything, this will all just fade away, I would imagine....

Bob

rintafile · « **Reply #17 on:** October 18, 2015, 02:37:29 AM »

Quote from: rsterne on October 17, 2015, 07:57:33 PM

It is important that anyone interested in cast bullets post in that gate, in every thread that has a bullet you would like to own or have a serious interest in.... The ones that are the most popular will likely proceed either to production or to a group buy.... If you don't say anything, this will all just fade away, I would imagine....
Bob

Quote from: rsterne on October 17, 2015, 07:57:33 PM

I have sent Al some 7mm (.284 cal) as well.... Anyone interested in 6mm (.243 cal) make a post over there and ask, and maybe Al will let me add that....
Bob

I'm interested that 6mm...

Usually it takes 10 serious interested people to make new designs to get Group Buy...I've seen exceptions but that's different case. So if some timeline designs don't get needed attention then it is frosen... That why I'm making noise for these topics because it is sad if this goes gutter

Rizen 1 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 18, 2015, 10:34:50 AM »

I too wish more people would be open to Bob's BBT concept. I really believe he is onto something... Advancing the sport is what it's all about... Great job Bob! I will have every BBT mold I can get my hands on!

rsterne · « **Reply #19 on:** October 18, 2015, 12:46:33 PM »

The Whiteout showed me where I wanted to be, and when I used the McDrag program to optimize the relationship between bullet length, ogive and meplat, I knew I had the ability to scale bullets between calibers.... Al came along just at the right time, and we ended up with a repository for all my designs in one place.... Who knows how many will actually reach production, that will depend on interest, and ultimately performance, which will generate more interest.... For me, it's great just to see them all developing the way I always hoped....

Bob

Thank you to our advertisers!

BBT's at NOE

Author Topic: BBT's at NOE (Read 7201 times))