Author Topic: The Struggle: Which German Springer? (Read 20375 times))

cvasquez · « **Reply #60 on:** November 05, 2015, 07:33:13 PM »

Oh this is a no brainer-- the HW30/R7 all the way. Its plenty for the cruitters you want to take out to 30yds. Thats what I use mine for including head shot grey squirrel. It is so accurate the little sparrow has no chance. Also its so light and easy to cock you will smile more and more as you use it.I will never understand the need to pay for a magnum sized rifle like the R(/HW95 and then detune down. That is ridiculous. Ive had the Hw50s and it is a great medium gun that will work bear in mind that it cocks much harder and sized larger and heavier than the little jewel the HW30s/ R7. Simply put that is a must own springer IMO !! GEt a nice BEeman SS# 1-4 on it and youll never look back.

UCChris · « **Reply #61 on:** November 08, 2015, 02:40:13 PM »

Thank you guys for the suggestions. I'm still looking. I'm not totally comfortable with my grandfather paying for all of it. He's not rich by any stretch of the imagination, so we've settled on 50/50. I'm currently looking at a Diana 52 from a member here. It is in .177 and currently does a hair under 17 fpe. If I got it, I would purchase a Vortek 12 fpe kit for it.

packard8 · « **Reply #62 on:** November 08, 2015, 08:28:18 PM »

Quote from: UCChris on November 08, 2015, 02:40:13 PM

Thank you guys for the suggestions. I'm still looking. I'm not totally comfortable with my grandfather paying for all of it. He's not rich by any stretch of the imagination, so we've settled on 50/50. I'm currently looking at a Diana 52 from a member here. It is in .177 and currently does a hair under 17 fpe. If I got it, I would purchase a Vortek 12 fpe kit for it.

I have both a 48 and 52 (same gun, different stock) and am quite happy with both. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see the purpose of detuning an already accurate, hard hitting gun to 12 fpe. If that fpe is your goal (legal reasons?) there are many other lighter, more nimble guns out there...D34, HW30, etc. Not trying to dissuade you, just wondering why.

marx68us · « **Reply #63 on:** November 08, 2015, 08:54:13 PM »

For a springer I'd say TX200. Not German but it has a ball bearing Rekord trigger that is awesome. Easy to cock as an underlever and stupid accurate. For german, how about a used HW90 and a pump kit? With a little tuning you can have 12FPE or 23FPE and anything in between. Or if you want CO2 fun, Hammerli 850 with 9oz bottle, hammer and trigger mod. Now that's some serious fun. During warm days 85F the Hammerli will shoot 805fps with 14.86gn pellets.

Tomcat · « **Reply #64 on:** November 09, 2015, 08:09:46 PM »

I have a model 52 I have owned since the 90's. Great shooter! If the price is right, you can't go wrong. I personally like the side lever. It is one of the last rifles I would part with. It is a bit heavy if you plan to carry it around, but accuracy and power are great.

ancient1one · « **Reply #65 on:** November 10, 2015, 07:29:54 AM »

I think the HW95 for $299 plus shipping would be my choice. Being its a gift for a special occasion from your grandfather you will more than likely own this springer for a long time.

The 95 comes shooting 15 - 17 fpe in 22 cal. Down the road you install or send it out for a 12 fpe tune. Keep the original spring so you can restore it to factory.

IMO if you have a choice whatever you buy should be new. If it arrives with a problem you can return it or have it fixed without spending more money. If your going used buy from a place or someone that will let you return it if there is a problem.

DonH · « **Reply #66 on:** November 10, 2015, 08:40:27 AM »

I've got the LGV Challenger and love it! Only one problem, my shoulders are bad. I'm having surgery on my left the 17 of Nov. It's a .177 at around 11 ft.lbs. Haven't shot in a while but it's the boss! I also have a R7 and RWS 34p, their good guns but can't compete with the lgv. I'll sell it to you for $275.00 shipped. I think it's 9 out 10. It like crosman 10.5 um domes, hunting pointer pellets, and Winchester 9.8 domes.
Don

mista meener · « **Reply #67 on:** November 10, 2015, 08:19:59 PM »

Quote from: DonH on November 10, 2015, 08:40:27 AM

I've got the LGV Challenger and love it! Only one problem, my shoulders are bad. I'm having surgery on my left the 17 of Nov. It's a .177 at around 9+ ft.lbs. Haven't shot in a while but it's the boss! I also have a R7 and RWS 34p, their good guns but can't compete with the lgv. I'll sell it to you for $275.00 shipped. I think it's 9 out 10. It like crosman 10.5 um domes, hunting pointer pellets, and Winchester 9.8 domes.
Don

you can do what you want but I don't think I ever saw surgery fixing a shoulder. all I heard was guys going back for another go round some guys with 3 surgeries. they are good for the doctors bank account. that rifle sounds good can you give me info on it?

DonH · « **Reply #68 on:** November 11, 2015, 06:46:23 AM »

Quote from: mista meener on November 10, 2015, 08:19:59 PM

Quote from: DonH on November 10, 2015, 08:40:27 AM
I've got the LGV Challenger and love it! Only one problem, my shoulders are bad. I'm having surgery on my left the 17 of Nov. It's a .177 at around 9+ ft.lbs. Haven't shot in a while but it's the boss! I also have a R7 and RWS 34p, their good guns but can't compete with the lgv. I'll sell it to you for $275.00 shipped. I think it's 9 out 10. It like crosman 10.5 um domes, hunting pointer pellets, and Winchester 9.8 domes.
Don
you can do what you want but I don't think I ever saw surgery fixing a shoulder. all I heard was guys going back for another go round some guys with 3 surgeries. they are good for the doctors bank account. that rifle sounds good can you give me info on it?

I fell and dislocated my left shoulder and tor up some ligaments. I'm 58 and going to retire and I'm not going to be crippled. It just so happens that I'm a south paw.
As far as the lvg, it great. No spring torque. Nice trigger, I put a longer adjustment screw in the trigger, the original was to short and was not doing anything other then looking like it was. Just to get people to buy their aftermarket trigger. I take it out and target shoot in the backyard. I don't hunt with it, it's to heavy. One tiny thin scratch on the barrel a little blueing is gone, no metal damage. I took a sharpy and touched it up. This gun makes you look better! It's a pretty gun as well. Don

Grover · « **Reply #69 on:** November 11, 2015, 08:44:45 AM »

Chris, Shopping is half the fun. I will be watching among the others so keep us posted! I don't have enough experience to have intelligent input, but I think you are wise to seek a well tested, proven platform.

Sig-Man · « **Reply #70 on:** November 11, 2015, 10:36:00 AM »

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mister meener says: you can do what you want but I don't think I ever saw surgery fixing a shoulder. all I heard was guys going back for another go round some guys with 3 surgeries. they are good for the doctors bank account. that rifle sounds good can you give me info on it?

This is OT, but four of my friends have had their rotator cuff etc. operated on laparoscopically during the last 2-3 years by the same doc and, except for one who's still recovering (2nd month, but already in a pretty good shape), they're all back on the court playing again a mean game of tennis. These "shoulder" surgeries are very tricky and their success really depends on the surgeon's level of expertise. Take your time and choose wisely!

mista meener · « **Reply #71 on:** November 11, 2015, 12:28:32 PM »

Quote from: Sig-Man on November 11, 2015, 10:36:00 AM

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mister meener says: you can do what you want but I don't think I ever saw surgery fixing a shoulder. all I heard was guys going back for another go round some guys with 3 surgeries. they are good for the doctors bank account. that rifle sounds good can you give me info on it?

This is OT, but four of my friends have had their rotator cuff etc. operated on laparoscopically during the last 2-3 years by the same doc and, except for one who's still recovering (2nd month, but already in a pretty good shape), they're all back on the court playing again a mean game of tennis. These "shoulder" surgeries are very tricky and their success really depends on the surgeon's level of expertise. Take your time and choose wisely!

Hope it works for you can you give me some info on that rifle

UCChris · « **Reply #72 on:** January 11, 2016, 09:02:02 PM »

Here we are, three months removed from my OP and I finally got a German springer!

A 1993, Santa Rosa era, R7 in .177!

And a 30 yard target, 5 shots. .177 pellet for scale. The 10 circle is 1" for scale.

Sfttailrdr46 · « **Reply #73 on:** January 11, 2016, 09:59:37 PM »

Sweet rifle Chris

39M · « **Reply #74 on:** January 11, 2016, 10:14:18 PM »

Schnitzelgugen!!!

Grover · « **Reply #75 on:** January 12, 2016, 06:17:15 AM »

Nice!

When you get done fussing with your new rifle, please take out the trash in the corner. Thank you.

wjjones · « **Reply #76 on:** January 12, 2016, 08:04:59 AM »

You're gonna love that R7 and it should be easy on your shoulder. I converted one poster in thread--I guess he has two now--and I have another one in .22 on the way, myself.

UCChris · « **Reply #77 on:** January 12, 2016, 12:52:08 PM »

Quote from: Grover on January 12, 2016, 06:17:15 AM

Nice!

When you get done fussing with your new rifle, please take out the trash in the corner. Thank you.

Haha. I keep the R7 at my parents' house since my apartment is none too gun friendly. My little brother was deep cleaning his room. What you see there is a laundry basket full of clothes with an orange towel sitting on top.

It's starting to get a bit warmer around here which means that the 2+ feet of snow that's been everywhere is starting to melt. I'm hoping that it'll be melted enough for me to trudge through by Friday so I can go hunting with this little guy. Stay tuned!

Methuselah · « **Reply #78 on:** January 13, 2016, 04:06:59 PM »

Quote from: UCChris on January 11, 2016, 09:02:02 PM

Here we are, three months removed from my OP and I finally got a German springer!

A 1993, Santa Rosa era, R7 in .177!

Nice lookin rifle and shot group! What you got on her for a scope?

Grover · « **Reply #79 on:** January 13, 2016, 04:11:07 PM »

Only one way to solve it. More pics.

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The Struggle: Which German Springer?

Author Topic: The Struggle: Which German Springer? (Read 20375 times))