I will have to look and make decisions yet on that Whirly, I am sure there are, mostly Crossman's hatsans and rugers oh my My line of thinking too Tom, I rather see them get used Oh and I bought the last Umarex Canex off the Tractor Supply closeout rack $22.50 out the door. This one seems to be fine working order also, so 2 out of 3 is not too bad LOL I have a parts gun or a tinker toy