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Offline RedFeather

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Milbro or "Millard Brothers"
« on: February 23, 2011, 07:33:11 PM »
Wie es geht!  Or, as my relatives used to say "Vee Gates", how goes it?  This is just a heads up that, should you have one of these rifles or pistols, you might want to post about it here on the German Gate.  Reason being that the majority of Milbro guns were Diana's produced on German machinery moved to Scotland at the end of WWII as war reparations.  Milbro was allowed the Diana name for a good many years and produced their own Diana models, even when Diana in Germany recommenced manufacture.  Some are exactly like the Diana made guns while others represent a slow transition towards Milbro's own designs.  For example, the Milbro Model 27 is, basically, an early Diana 27, slowly becomes the G36 and then the G79/80.  While the latter gun became far removed from its Diana roots, it still smacks of a 27.  So feel free.

Ditto the older Winchesters which were nothing more than rebadged Diana's.

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Re: Milbro or "Millard Brothers"
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2011, 09:41:45 PM »
good point redfeather. question for red do you know if the dasiy 250 is milbo g-25 or g-27 or g-34 I have the diana 25 also they look the same except the stock on the diana is thicker.P.s I think the guy that got the dasiy 250 for 125.00 got a good deal on gun broker. They are a great shooter.

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Re: Milbro or "Millard Brothers"
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2011, 11:37:37 PM »
I don't have any pics of those Milbro models to go by.  My guess is the G25.  I was following that Daisy 250 and hoped to get it cheap.  It was a first year import, 1966, per the seller.  Non-adjustable trigger.  They changed them a bit over time.  I think the later ones are nicer.  The G-27 is probably a 27 derivative.  Don't know about the G34.  I think it's the same as my G46 target version, again a 27 relative.

The best place to find info on Milbro's is the Brit forum at www.airgunbbs.com

Now, I wouldn't mind a nice Diana 25D with the adjustable trigger in .22.

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Re: Milbro or "Millard Brothers"
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2011, 12:34:05 AM »
red email me I have a lead on a dasiy 250 for cheap the trigger on mind is less the 2#

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Re: Milbro or "Millard Brothers"
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2014, 05:44:39 PM »
 I was so glad to find this post because after misplacing my Daisy 250 for about 2 years, I found it and  fell back in love again!
 A little history:
 Milbro got all the M&G tooling as War "Booty" grom Germany and it went to Millard Bros in Scotland and production resumed in Great Britan and Scotland.
 Daisy contrated with Milbro for the new model 250 Springer. A .22 caliber wood stocked Springer. It's a nice gun with BSA-like shaping to the wood, A rounded gripend ( M&G like). with a grooved butt.
 The Milbro design has a manual safety lever on the right side of the reciever/stock.
 The sights aremuch like the M&G rear with a round hooded post front.
 Daisy contracted for 2 rifles, both .22's A  model 230 and the 250.
 Many confuse the Milbros with Diana's but the 250 is a model all it's own. It is not a M&G product. Some parts may be M&G parts but few look familliar.
 The 250 has a tapered crown to the muzzle.
 The barrel latch is very M&G like.
 The 250 is a short rifle, actually the same size as my RWS 24C. The 250 weighs more than the 24C. It's a very nice weight, steady due to the additional weight plus the scope I added to it.
 Daisy would have been better off to keep the relationship with Millard Bro's for this model! It's a very well made rifle with really nice wood and the bluing is excellent after all these years!  (Mine is a '66 or'67 model)
 Same with the Model 230, it is very much like a Diana Model 23.
 Much confusionn has occured over the years as if the 250 is a Diana 27 or Model 25. It is neither!
 The 250 is a model all it's own. a contract gun for Daisy.
 Velocity wise the 250 shoots about 525 to 560FPS with middleweight pellets. A guess only. Accuracy is very good and with the right pellets drop is minimal. My Daughter shot sub 1" groups at 65 yards over a bench. She used a reciever sight. I have shot the rifle quite a bit and have had very good accuracy from it! The 250 is very pellet friendly and accepts many different styles of heads.
 I havefound that the Crosman Premieres to shoot very consistantlly and I also have shot both H&N and RWS H/P's for long range targets.
 The Daisy 250 was produced from'66 theough about '68. Then the Contracts for Daisy went exclusivelly to Gamo. In the case of the 250 I think it was a loss!
 I hope this helped clarify some myths concerning the rifle.
 Evidentlly there was a couple models of 250 made. One with a finger grooved forearm and no safety lever, and one with a non grooved stock and a safety.
 Unfortunatelly, my rifle has a missing safety lever but it's set to fire.
 If I can add anything later, I'll add it.
 Sorry I can't add a picture.
 BPDave