Pumpers making a comeback?

[Ultramarine]

A well built(wood and metal), powerful(15 fpe), yet still compact and lightweight, easily scopeable pumper, preferably with some kind of factory installed sound deadening baffle device, in the sub-$200 range, is all it would take for me to buy a new one.

That would be a cool gun. I don't know enough about the engineering or manufacturing process to have more than a humble opinion, but I don't think that can be done in that price range. One thing that I have learned though is that there are some guys on this forum that do have the knowledge and ability to figure out how to build one.

Do you, guys, think that new chinese SPA stuff could match these reasonable specs ? = https://www.spairguns.com/spa-artemis-lr700w.html

Anyway, it seems to be available in Europe. I'm just waiting for some tests...

[39M]

A well built(wood and metal), powerful(15 fpe), yet still compact and lightweight, easily scopeable pumper, preferably with some kind of factory installed sound deadening baffle device, in the sub-$200 range, is all it would take for me to buy a new one.

That would be a cool gun. I don't know enough about the engineering or manufacturing process to have more than a humble opinion, but I don't think that can be done in that price range. One thing that I have learned though is that there are some guys on this forum that do have the knowledge and ability to figure out how to build one.

Do you, guys, think that new chinese SPA stuff could match these reasonable specs ? = https://www.spairguns.com/spa-artemis-lr700w.html

Anyway, it seems to be available in Europe. I'm just waiting for some tests...

I couldn't tell from the picture if you could mount a scope on there.

I guess I'd also like it made in the U.S.A.

Obviously I buy stuff that's made in China, usually out of necessity. But I'd probably take a pass here.

[Ultramarine]

I know may be I should have posted that in the chinese child board, but there's been so many infos about pumpers in general out here...

Considering a scope, yes, I think there's a dovetail on the receiver, if I can trust the pics I picked from the Germany's IWA 2017 show website. Still on the chinese shelves I noticed this : http://www.nova-vista.co/a/PNEUMATIC/27.html. But I'm OK with my beloved Crosman 2100 and this one doesn't look to provide anything better.

That Nova Vista company seems to have invented a low end FX Independence (kind of...), too : http://www.nova-vista.co/plus/view.php?aid=15. But once again, I'm going to wait patiently for a decent test

[Hoosier Daddy]

Yves:
 Thanks for the link to the HP-M1000.
Are you seeing any Prices across the pond on it yet? ( I can convert Euros to USD)

[39M]

That Nova Vista looks HUGE.

Not exactly one of the qualities that I would value in a multi-pump air rifle.

The SPA looks better to me.

[Ultramarine]

Scott,

Unfortunately no, but I keep on searching and I'll tell you if I can find anything. The company (manufacturer ? reseller ?) is settled in Macau, tha's all I know.

39M : yes, it has a springer's weight and  looks a bit boxy, but I see that as the counterpart of an integrated pump in a PCP.

Anyway, to stick on  this thread's title, yes pumpers are making a comeback, but not under any US or European flag

[Hoosier Daddy]

Sent this to Rob112o yesterday but like me it out of our price range.
Only 2 days to go and at 9 bids up to $410
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/627679017

[39M]

Oh yeah... The Sharp Ace.

I was thinking about that gun the other day, or another similar one with a plastic receiver.
I kept thinking it was a Webley...

[Ultramarine]

Though I never laid my hand on a Sharp Ace, I'm quite sure the one on the pic is not a Webley.
I've been shooting  a wood stock version of a Webley for 2 years now, and I can use it today without without being exposed to a severe nervous breakdown. I "tamed" it but its accuracy still can't compete with my Crosman 2100's. I even gave up putting a scope on it, as iron sights are faster to adjust, if you see what I mean.
So I keep the SPA-LR700w in my survey list.

[39M]

Though I never laid my hand on a Sharp Ace, I'm quite sure the one on the pic is not a Webley.
I've been shooting  a wood stock version of a Webley for 2 years now, and I can use it today without without being exposed to a severe nervous breakdown. I "tamed" it but its accuracy still can't compete with my Crosman 2100's. I even gave up putting a scope on it, as iron sights are faster to adjust, if you see what I mean.
So I keep the SPA-LR700w in my survey list.

Yeah. I was thinking of the Sharp Innova, which looks like the Webley Rebel.

[Wolfer]

Do the big air gun outfits read any of the forums. They have to be smart enough to realize the our community will support new wood stock pumper ideas. Sorry but I had to mention the wood stock deal.   Wolfer

[avator]

Unfortunately our community is only 20,000 strong. Even in the unlikely event that all 20,000 of us bought one the profits wouldn't even cover the cost of R&D. Supply and Demand man. Be interesting to see how many more years the modern day 392/397 will be produced. Poor quality mass production.

[Rob M]

I think the indy clone is a massive gain to the pumper world.. it may be big but having an onboard 3 stage is gonna take up some room..

[Bryan Heimann]

They won't give us the pumper we want because it's gonna be the same price as an mrod with a pump.  They know we won't pay it for a multipump single shot, and for a little extra they can make a pcp with onboard pump... and they are doing that, lol.

[WECSOG]

Unfortunately our community is only 20,000 strong. Even in the unlikely event that all 20,000 of us bought one the profits wouldn't even cover the cost of R&D. Supply and Demand man. Be interesting to see how many more years the modern day 392/397 will be produced. Poor quality mass production.

Compared to what? The new Crosman 760? Daisy 880? Mass market springer?
When you ask the average shooter today what is the best semi-auto .22 rifle ever made, most of them will say "Ruger 10/22" without hesitation. Never mind the .22 rifles that used to be made of milled steel and high grade walnut.