if you could only have one of each air gun type and you were on a tight budget ?

[north country gal]

one thing i would do is NOT buy a cheap springer ....always buy the best you can afford, but  even better to save up for the best gun.

Absolutely on the springer. You don't have to jump all the way up to a TX 200 or HWK97 - plenty of good intermediate choices out there - but a springer is not the place to go cheap. A lot of us have learned that the hard way.

Rather than try to get all lines of air guns, I would use the budget to buy a single high grade gun of one type and get out there and start shooting. Add other types if and when you can. I've never heard anyone complain that they bought too good an air gun, but plenty of moaning and groaning out there about buying cheap air guns.

[Booger]

For springers i would agree that $200 would be difficult to stay under.   Though for the rest it can be done and get rely nice rifles, so long as you are willing to put in a little work on the AirRifles.

Not really. The Slavia 634 slots into that price range quire easily and delivers outstanding performance.

I have a Slavia 631, why do you think it is up for sale? I am not into low powered rifles.

[daveb50]

1377 Multi pump
2240 Co2
P17 Single pump
Xs60 PCP
All for about $300 total. Now take the other $500, buy a pump, co2 carts and lots of pellets to shoot, and have fun.
 
I have had all four types of airguns, and finally settled on my Co2's and pumpers. I was too frugal to spend hundreds on tanks and or pumps, so I sold my two PCP's. The only hunting I do these days is shooting pests out back. Other than that, it is shooting with the Grandkids, mostly paper targets and cans. You can see below what guns I have now below.

[D14Jeff]

just to clarify , i'm not looking to buy anything any time soon . this thread is just to get a idea of folks likes and dislikes below a certain price range ..... and because i thought it could be interesting . i currently only have a crosman 13xx pumper with barrels , stocks and grips , scopes and such for carbine and pistol use . since i'm so cheap i'll just get a 2240 or 2260 power tube and parts to shift my 13xx upper and lower parts to when i wanna try Co2 . the CMP refurb 853 would be the SSP i'd go for . and for a springer a hatsan or china based 25/26/28 would be what i'd focus on currently ..... no disrespect to anyone or their choices . i'll probably never get into PCP .....

[DavidS]

just to clarify , i'm not looking to buy anything any time soon . this thread is just to get a idea of folks likes and dislikes below a certain price range ..... and because i thought it could be interesting . i currently only have a crosman 13xx pumper with barrels , stocks and grips , scopes and such for carbine and pistol use . since i'm so cheap i'll just get a 2240 or 2260 power tube and parts to shift my 13xx upper and lower parts to when i wanna try Co2 . the CMP refurb 853 would be the SSP i'd go for . and for a springer a hatsan or china based 25/26/28 would be what i'd focus on currently ..... no disrespect to anyone or their choices . i'll probably never get into PCP .....

if MM still has the 28 on sale the 3rd of feb , i may have to do some finagling with the wallet to get one and put a 34 spring in it .

If you ever decide to play with PCP, once you have a CO2 setup it is little cost to do an HPA conversion, and it is easy to reverse if you want to go back to CO2.     I plan on purchasing a 2240 tube valve, end cap, hammer, and barrel band once I get my 140 up to spec.      Once done I will eventually do a reversible HPA conversion so that I have one carbine for a PCP and CO2, as CO2 is useless in the winter here.

[D14Jeff]

i've thought of that david , but theres still the cost of the pump . i think on HPA the 2240/2260 tubes can only handle 1000-1200 psi . i'd probably try bulk filling Co2 first . putting almost $200 into a HPA pump will be the next to the last thing airgun related that i'd buy other than pellets or Co2 . if i ever got a pump though ....... i wouldn't have a reason to not get a B50 , LOL

one of these days ..........

[stevemag]

it's all good avator .

i'll admit i'm kinda jealous of deep pocketed folks that can afford the high dollar rigs . but i guess i'm just not dedicated enough to this hobby to be willing to invest soooooo much money into one springer purchase considering my income bracket . i see/read across several AG forums folks that are thrilled with their $200 and under hatsan springers and XS-25/28/26 based springers getting 1 inch and smaller groups at 30 yards and more , with some claiming 1/2 inch or better . i realize a good part of that is technique/mastering that particular springers hold and finding it's prefered pellet ...... but for my purposes something like that would do me just fine . i'm not a collector , don't have any powder burners , don't hunt , no children/grandchildren to pass them down to and don't have folks coming over to admire my stuff . and honestly , sometimes i'm a bit of a clutz and i'd freak out dropping or knocking over something that cost several hundred dollars or more ..... not that i'd be happy about doing it to something that only cost a hundred bucks . i post this so folks won't think that i ignore their suggestions or don't respect their opinions ...... it's just not feasible for me to invest that much .
all the comments and suggestions y'all have shared are appreciated .

i had forgotten about the refurb 34s , it is a excellent "cheap" springer choice ..... but they rarely pop up and go FAST .

I'll agree with you, for the most part I was perfectly content with my mm , xs25. It was only after shooting joe P's hw98 that I realized what I wanted out of a springer. I would have never spent that kind of money(on the hw95) if it were not for joe P.

[DavidS]

i've thought of that david , but theres still the cost of the pump . i think on HPA the 2240/2260 tubes can only handle 1000-1200 psi . i'd probably try bulk filling Co2 first . putting almost $200 into a HPA pump will be the next to the last thing airgun related that i'd buy other than pellets or Co2 . if i ever got a pump though ....... i wouldn't have a reason to not get a B50 , LOL

one of these days ..........

Just as an FYI:

You can use a 2100 or even 66 pump tube with a flat top piston, and a valve filled solid except for  a 1/32nd inch hole going to a fitting to attach to your HPA 2240 to make a simple HPA Pump.   The only problem is that after every third fill you will need to release all pressure and drain any water that has accumulated from condensation at pressure.   Though if you let the 2240 HPA sit aimed skyward for five minutes it is actually possible to shoot the water out by keeping it aimed skyward and shooting two or three dry fires.

[VillageSniper]

FWB 300s, FWB 80, FWB 124, FWB 603, FWB, FWB, FWB................
 
They have had me gut hooked since I was boy.

Vs

[pllagunos]

For a springer I would get a flying dragon springer not sure what would it be but probably the 46 or the 28 (both under 200$).
For a MSP I would get a Benjamin 392. (169$).
For a SSP I would get Daisy 953. (100$
For a CO2 I would get a Hammerli 850 (280$) or a QB78D (under 100$).
For a PCP I would get a refurbished or new Hatsan AT44W-10 .22 and order a TKO ldc. (under 500$, refurb is 340$ at the time I bought it).

[Pappy]

it's all good avator .

i'll admit i'm kinda jealous of deep pocketed folks that can afford the high dollar rigs . but i guess i'm just not dedicated enough to this hobby to be willing to invest soooooo much money into one springer purchase considering my income bracket . i see/read across several AG forums folks that are thrilled with their $200 and under hatsan springers and XS-25/28/26 based springers getting 1 inch and smaller groups at 30 yards and more , with some claiming 1/2 inch or better . i realize a good part of that is technique/mastering that particular springers hold and finding it's prefered pellet ...... but for my purposes something like that would do me just fine . i'm not a collector , don't have any powder burners , don't hunt , no children/grandchildren to pass them down to and don't have folks coming over to admire my stuff . and honestly , sometimes i'm a bit of a clutz and i'd freak out dropping or knocking over something that cost several hundred dollars or more ..... not that i'd be happy about doing it to something that only cost a hundred bucks . i post this so folks won't think that i ignore their suggestions or don't respect their opinions ...... it's just not feasible for me to invest that much .
all the comments and suggestions y'all have shared are appreciated .

i had forgotten about the refurb 34s , it is a excellent "cheap" springer choice ..... but they rarely pop up and go FAST .

I'll agree with you, for the most part I was perfectly content with my mm , xs25. It was only after shooting joe P's hw98 that I realized what I wanted out of a springer. I would have never spent that kind of money(on the hw95) if it were not for joe P.

That Joe P is quite the enabler now, isn't he Steve.     My TX is with Motorhead right now, getting his magic dust sprinkled on it.

[Matt15]

i've thought of that david , but theres still the cost of the pump . i think on HPA the 2240/2260 tubes can only handle 1000-1200 psi . i'd probably try bulk filling Co2 first . putting almost $200 into a HPA pump will be the next to the last thing airgun related that i'd buy other than pellets or Co2 . if i ever got a pump though ....... i wouldn't have a reason to not get a B50 , LOL

one of these days ..........

Just as an FYI:

You can use a 2100 or even 66 pump tube with a flat top piston, and a valve filled solid except for  a 1/32nd inch hole going to a fitting to attach to your HPA 2240 to make a simple HPA Pump.   The only problem is that after every third fill you will need to release all pressure and drain any water that has accumulated from condensation at pressure.   Though if you let the 2240 HPA sit aimed skyward for five minutes it is actually possible to shoot the water out by keeping it aimed skyward and shooting two or three dry fires.

\

I was wondering if that could be done.

[DavidS]

i've thought of that david , but theres still the cost of the pump . i think on HPA the 2240/2260 tubes can only handle 1000-1200 psi . i'd probably try bulk filling Co2 first . putting almost $200 into a HPA pump will be the next to the last thing airgun related that i'd buy other than pellets or Co2 . if i ever got a pump though ....... i wouldn't have a reason to not get a B50 , LOL

one of these days ..........

Just as an FYI:

You can use a 2100 or even 66 pump tube with a flat top piston, and a valve filled solid except for  a 1/32nd inch hole going to a fitting to attach to your HPA 2240 to make a simple HPA Pump.   The only problem is that after every third fill you will need to release all pressure and drain any water that has accumulated from condensation at pressure.   Though if you let the 2240 HPA sit aimed skyward for five minutes it is actually possible to shoot the water out by keeping it aimed skyward and shooting two or three dry fires.

\

I was wondering if that could be done.

I did that for my project PCP's using a 66 pump tube.   It does have its problems, the air is not clean, moister, etc.  Though it does work.

[brzryder]

MSP 2289g
SSP beeman P17
Break barrel Hatsan Super charger .22 cal
CO2 2240
PCP not allowed to hunt with air guns here in Pa. so no need nor do i want one
the 2289 only has one pellet thru it don`t really care for msp`s just like the 1377 i have

[bbv13]

MSP, Benjamin 342
SSP, Daisy model 25
PCP, Benjamin Marauder pistol
CO2 Crosman 400
Springer, Diana model 34

Bryan

[DavidS]

All of this talk about how to go low cost almost has me wanting to do another HPA build .   Maybe actually post the results in the Crosman gate.

Slightly off topic:
If we can take a Crosman 22xx and build it into a PCP for less than 100 dolars including the cost of the Co2 gun, and that at consumer prices, why won't Crosman design such a rifle for around $120 retail.   Gives them plenty of profit, they would recover there R&D costs in under a year.   The only issue I see is the need of a super simple pressure blow off to prevent filling past 1500PSI, and that is just a spring, a seal, and a correctly sized hole for the spring strength.

[EMrider]

Springer: Beeman R7
SSP: Daisy 853
MSP: Benjamin 397
PCP: Crosman 1720t

All in .177

R

[stevemag]

it's all good avator .

i'll admit i'm kinda jealous of deep pocketed folks that can afford the high dollar rigs . but i guess i'm just not dedicated enough to this hobby to be willing to invest soooooo much money into one springer purchase considering my income bracket . i see/read across several AG forums folks that are thrilled with their $200 and under hatsan springers and XS-25/28/26 based springers getting 1 inch and smaller groups at 30 yards and more , with some claiming 1/2 inch or better . i realize a good part of that is technique/mastering that particular springers hold and finding it's prefered pellet ...... but for my purposes something like that would do me just fine . i'm not a collector , don't have any powder burners , don't hunt , no children/grandchildren to pass them down to and don't have folks coming over to admire my stuff . and honestly , sometimes i'm a bit of a clutz and i'd freak out dropping or knocking over something that cost several hundred dollars or more ..... not that i'd be happy about doing it to something that only cost a hundred bucks . i post this so folks won't think that i ignore their suggestions or don't respect their opinions ...... it's just not feasible for me to invest that much .
all the comments and suggestions y'all have shared are appreciated .

i had forgotten about the refurb 34s , it is a excellent "cheap" springer choice ..... but they rarely pop up and go FAST .

I'll agree with you, for the most part I was perfectly content with my mm , xs25. It was only after shooting joe P's hw98 that I realized what I wanted out of a springer. I would have never spent that kind of money(on the hw95) if it were not for joe P.

That Joe P is quite the enabler now, isn't he Steve.     My TX is with Motorhead right now, getting his magic dust sprinkled on it.

yes! he is the best, after i pulled the trigger on his rifle, i turned to him and cursed him.

[Sfttailrdr46]

it's all good avator .

i'll admit i'm kinda jealous of deep pocketed folks that can afford the high dollar rigs . but i guess i'm just not dedicated enough to this hobby to be willing to invest soooooo much money into one springer purchase considering my income bracket . i see/read across several AG forums folks that are thrilled with their $200 and under hatsan springers and XS-25/28/26 based springers getting 1 inch and smaller groups at 30 yards and more , with some claiming 1/2 inch or better . i realize a good part of that is technique/mastering that particular springers hold and finding it's prefered pellet ...... but for my purposes something like that would do me just fine . i'm not a collector , don't have any powder burners , don't hunt , no children/grandchildren to pass them down to and don't have folks coming over to admire my stuff . and honestly , sometimes i'm a bit of a clutz and i'd freak out dropping or knocking over something that cost several hundred dollars or more ..... not that i'd be happy about doing it to something that only cost a hundred bucks . i post this so folks won't think that i ignore their suggestions or don't respect their opinions ...... it's just not feasible for me to invest that much .
all the comments and suggestions y'all have shared are appreciated .

i had forgotten about the refurb 34s , it is a excellent "cheap" springer choice ..... but they rarely pop up and go FAST .

I'll agree with you, for the most part I was perfectly content with my mm , xs25. It was only after shooting joe P's hw98 that I realized what I wanted out of a springer. I would have never spent that kind of money(on the hw95) if it were not for joe P.

That Joe P is quite the enabler now, isn't he Steve.     My TX is with Motorhead right now, getting his magic dust sprinkled on it.

yes! he is the best, after i pulled the trigger on his rifle, i turned to him and cursed him.

If I'm not mistaken I witnessed that at Tom's fun shoot I was at last year great day and  loved the look on your face when you had that amazed look but the best was the silly look and the ear splitting grin

[Charles Outdoors]

 I could easily be happy with under $200.00 airguns. I shot a friends Hw 97 for a bit earlier this year, then put it down, along with the other more expense guns and spent the rest of the day shooting my MTR77NP. No doubt more expensive rifles are nice, but I don't need them to enjoy shooting. Heck, most of my guns cost under 200.00.