if you could only have one of each air gun type and you were on a tight budget ?

[Pappy]

one thing i would do is NOT buy a cheap springer, after getting 2, i ended up with an hw95, had i saved up and got that one in the first place it would have been cheaper in the long run,
for co2 i can't fault my hammerli 850 tuned from Roald at the 850 store, again, not cheap but  i went thru a crosman 2260 and a qb78 before i found out how accurate  a co2 gun could be.
always buy the best you can afford, but  even better to save up for the best gun.

Steve hit it on the nose.  If you can't afford the best in each category, then save until you can.  I see too many people, myself included, buy cheap stuff .... not be happy, and ultimately end up with the best.  If you just want to plink, doesn't matter what you buy.  Personally ..... if you get serious about this obsession, the words airgun & budget don't really exist. Remember, the price of the rifle is only a portion of what you need to get ..... scopes, mounts, pellets, and for PCP's .... tanks, fittings, and a pick-up to haul all your &^^& around.   

[DavidS]

With those price limits:

CO2 = Crosman 2260.
PCP = Crosman 2260 with HPA conversion, and pump tube HPA pump.
MSP = Daisy 22x/22SG, or Crosman 140 or 1400.
Springer = Any first gen NP with the willingness to tune.

[Matt15]

PCP: XS-B 50
Springer: NP2
MSP: crosman 2200(I would mod it)
CO2: 1911 pistol

[Booger]

Under $200? I would just quit shooting. I have shot high end rifles & low end rifles. After shooting the Benjamin Trail, I must say I would go back to playing chess.

[farmerjoe99]

thanks for the replies so far .
if nobody minds ..... could i request a top cost of $200 per airgun new or refurbished .... not used . and for PCP what is the cheapest PCP you'd consider ? i understand it would be best to save and spend $400 $500 $600 or more on some of them , but i'm sure i'm not the only one who can't justify spending that much on a single airgun given income in and income out responsibilities . kudos to the folks that can though .

maybe i should have said very limited budget rather than pretty limited budget . LOL .

Alright here it goes:

MSP: 392
MSP Pistol: 1377(or if I could find it on sale,used or refurb a Webley Alecto)
SSP: refurb CMP Daisy 853  $114
SSP Pistol: P17
Break barrel springer: refurb D34
Under lever spring: xs46u with full tune from Mike
Co2: Qb78 (with intentions of making it a regulated pcp)
PCP: Bam B50 would be my first choice then a refurb disco

And I think I would be quite happy with anyone of those.
And I would learn a lot and have a lot of fun modding/tuning them.
Joseph

[AHMSA]

MSP: 392.
Springger: Hatsan 95 Vortex.
CO2: Crosman 2260.

[grobe1458]

thanks for the replies so far .
if nobody minds ..... could i request a top cost of $200 per airgun new or refurbished .... not used . and for PCP what is the cheapest PCP you'd consider ? i understand it would be best to save and spend $400 $500 $600 or more on some of them , but i'm sure i'm not the only one who can't justify spending that much on a single airgun given income in and income out responsibilities . kudos to the folks that can though .

maybe i should have said very limited budget rather than pretty limited budget . LOL .

top cost 200.00? I'd find another hobby. if I can't buy what I want then I wouldn't buy it at all.

[DavidS]

For springers i would agree that $200 would be difficult to stay under.   Though for the rest it can be done and get rely nice rifles, so long as you are willing to put in a little work on the AirRifles.

[hutnicks]

For springers i would agree that $200 would be difficult to stay under.   Though for the rest it can be done and get rely nice rifles, so long as you are willing to put in a little work on the AirRifles.

Not really. The Slavia 634 slots into that price range quire easily and delivers outstanding performance.

[avator]

For springers i would agree that $200 would be difficult to stay under.   Though for the rest it can be done and get rely nice rifles, so long as you are willing to put in a little work on the AirRifles.

I have a Crosman Vantage NP with a CDT trigger ($100 to my door), A Crosman Nitro Venom($114 to my door) and 2 amazing MM tunned XS-25 ($430 combined to my door) All three of these guns amaze me everytime I shoot them. I admit, I've never owned or shot a $600 springer and unless someone that owns one moves in next door to me, I probably never will but, I would not be one bit backwards about sitting down and shooting 30 to 40 yds. shot for shot with anybody who does own one. (except that darn Joe Palone) That being said... Yours may be here long after mine is dead and yours may be alot prettier but, I can toss mine behind the seat on my truck and if I bust it I can buy another one tomorrow.

[avator]

Sorry OP and Admins... off topic... please remove if so inclined.

[Sfttailrdr46]

  I did not spend a Dime for my 880 it was given to me in place of a tip by a little old lady on an after hours very late night no heat service call. I play with it a couple times a month just for grins, it still shoots well enough to hit a soda can end on at 25 yards

[D14Jeff]

it's all good avator .

i'll admit i'm kinda jealous of deep pocketed folks that can afford the high dollar rigs . but i guess i'm just not dedicated enough to this hobby to be willing to invest soooooo much money into one springer purchase considering my income bracket . i see/read across several AG forums folks that are thrilled with their $200 and under hatsan springers and XS-25/28/26 based springers getting 1 inch and smaller groups at 30 yards and more , with some claiming 1/2 inch or better . i realize a good part of that is technique/mastering that particular springers hold and finding it's prefered pellet ...... but for my purposes something like that would do me just fine . i'm not a collector , don't have any powder burners , don't hunt , no children/grandchildren to pass them down to and don't have folks coming over to admire my stuff . and honestly , sometimes i'm a bit of a clutz and i'd freak out dropping or knocking over something that cost several hundred dollars or more ..... not that i'd be happy about doing it to something that only cost a hundred bucks . i post this so folks won't think that i ignore their suggestions or don't respect their opinions ...... it's just not feasible for me to invest that much .
all the comments and suggestions y'all have shared are appreciated .

i had forgotten about the refurb 34s , it is a excellent "cheap" springer choice ..... but they rarely pop up and go FAST .

[haertig]

My idea of "tight budget" is evidently different than many others here.  IMHO, there are some pretty expensive air guns listed in these posts thus far.

Here's my "tight budget" recommendations:

• SSP rifle: Daisy 953 or CMP refurb 853
• MSP pistol: Crosman 1377
• SSP pistol: Beeman P17
• Springer: Not a Gamo Shadow 1000 (I have one, it even has a GRT trigger, but I don't really like the rifle all that much)
• PCP: Out of any "tight budget" price range IMHO, considering all the peripheral gear you need to run one (SCUBA tanks, access to a nearby dive shop to fill tanks, a ridiculously priced high pressure hand pump, etc.)

Things I'm considering buying in the "tight budget" category, but I have not used personally so I don't know about their quality/appropriateness yet:

• MSP rifle: Benjamin 392
• Underlever rifle: Xisco XS46U
• CO2 rifle: Industry QB78
• CO2 pistol: Something from the Crosman Custom Shop (despite the name "custom", these are still inexpensive)

[Sfttailrdr46]

  My ability to get what ever toys I want came at the price of a bad back  and knees and many many years of hard work including re starting my life 15 years ago after getting my divorce that was expensive and left me with $0 in the bank and a used $500 Chevy Caviler  station wagon to put my work tools in. At the time I was 52 so I can appreciate not being able to afford much. At the time the only pellet rifle I owned was the Daisy 880. In the  words of Chief Dan George from the movie "Outlaw Jose Whales"   "endeavor to preserver"

[D14Jeff]

I LOVE THAT GUY !



i LMBFAO every time clint catches him with the indian girl 

[Bullit]

Don't know if power requirements enter in...but I think you're an accuracy guy first and foremost.
With the Co2/PCP deal,  you can get a Hammerli 850 refurb cheap enough, and adapt it to PCP if you like.   It's accurate, and fun to shoot.  It can serve as a "2 for 1" deal, and be economical.
In the springer class,  the fixed barrel is my choice.  The Gamo CFX or CFR are proven as good accurate examples, and not heavy to carry.
For a SSP,  it's hands down the Daisy Avanti 853.  The barrel and accuracy are proven.  Neat target rifles.
I don't have personal ownership and extended experience with any of the others... So I won't confuse you with thoughts that I have no real knowledge of...  HTH

[shootist]

Buy the best you can buy. If you have to save up, even better. You'll appreciate it more. Also have the money to tune it right out of the box. That way, the gun won't develop bad manners. A burr wears away metal that can't be replaced. A piston that cants, wears a piston the wrong way also. A cheap factory spring will bend and wear things at an angle. The metal chips  inbedded into a seal does no favors either. The more you pay for the gun, the less you feel bad about the cost of a tune. In other words, if it costs $200 for the gun and $200 for a tune, one says,"what to hay?!?!". If you spend $500-1000 for the gun, you say, money well spent!!. As far as manufacturer, I'd go Beeman/HW as far as I could. If Beeman/Hw doesn't make it, you don't need it!!!!!  Over the years, I've had them all. PCP, pumpers, CO2 and springers. Sold all but a few. Back to springers. The most demanding of all. It's made me a MUCH better shot with firearms. Just my opinion and everybody has one, you know the rest!!! Lee

[scrane]

it's all good avator .

i'll admit i'm kinda jealous of deep pocketed folks that can afford the high dollar rigs . but i guess i'm just not dedicated enough to this hobby to be willing to invest soooooo much money into one springer purchase considering my income bracket . i see/read across several AG forums folks that are thrilled with their $200 and under hatsan springers and XS-25/28/26 based springers getting 1 inch and smaller groups at 30 yards and more , with some claiming 1/2 inch or better . i realize a good part of that is technique/mastering that particular springers hold and finding it's prefered pellet ...... but for my purposes something like that would do me just fine . i'm not a collector , don't have any powder burners , don't hunt , no children/grandchildren to pass them down to and don't have folks coming over to admire my stuff . and honestly , sometimes i'm a bit of a clutz and i'd freak out dropping or knocking over something that cost several hundred dollars or more ..... not that i'd be happy about doing it to something that only cost a hundred bucks . i post this so folks won't think that i ignore their suggestions or don't respect their opinions ...... it's just not feasible for me to invest that much .
all the comments and suggestions y'all have shared are appreciated .

i had forgotten about the refurb 34s , it is a excellent "cheap" springer choice ..... but they rarely pop up and go FAST .

As you mention in your post, it's not hard to find recommendations for cheap individual airguns. I think what a lot of people here are wondering is why you'd rather have four cheap airguns when you can have one or two really nice ones for the same outlay.

[haertig]

As you mention in your post, it's not hard to find recommendations for cheap individual airguns. I think what a lot of people here are wondering is why you'd rather have four cheap airguns when you can have one or two really nice ones for the same outlay.

I don't know about all the high dollar airguns mentioned in this thread, because I don't own them, but "more expensive" does not always equate to "better" or  "more fun".  You have to do your research and see what it is that YOU want, not what someone else wants.  Some people get pleasure out of just spending a lot of money, no matter what they actually get in return for it.  And that's just fine, if that's what makes you happy.  But for me, accuracy is the most important thing.  And there will be a lot of people who cannot get their $700 air rifle to shoot more accurately than my $100 CMP refurb 853.  Sure, the wood is not pretty on mine, the metal parts don't have a nice blued luster, but those points are not important to me in an air rifle (but more important in a powder burner).  Personally, I will spend the least amount possible to get the most accuracy possible.  But only within reason.  I'm sure a $5000 Olympic competition air rifle will outshoot my $100 853, but we're talking extremes in pricing that only exceptional competitive shooters (and fools) will be willing to pay.  One thing I will usually pay more for, is a fine mechanical feel.  It's just a neat thing that makes me happy when I can afford it.  I don't have that "fine mechanical feel" with my 853, but that desire is strongly overpowered by the way the 853 shoots - even with plastic and cheap wood and all.  I appreciate the fine mechanical feel more in a powder burner than in an air rifle, and that's where I put my money.  But that's all personal taste, I realize that.

You have to buy FOR YOU, not for somebody else.