Quote from: stonykill on December 24, 2014, 08:13:43 AM Bill, thanks for that short review. I have been considering one, against my own best judgement. I already have 2 760's, a 1997 and a 1975. So I needed another like a hole in the head. And beside in the last 12 months I have bought 1/2 dozen new Crosmans and every single one had quality control issues. So while out the other day i had a choice, a new 760 or a Daisy 35, both right at $33. I came home with the Daisy and was blown away at it's out of the box accuracy. And it feels solid like all of the older all plastic ag's. So thanks for saving me $33 on an Ag I would return. I'll just make my next AG a Daisy 901.I kinda blame this on you Stony. After I read about your $33 Daisy at TSC, we went and looked at them. The clerk had them rung up and I was pulling the old credit card out when a light went off in my head and I had him take them off the bill and put them back. That's when we went to WM and got this garbage.... J/K about blaming it on you. Anyhow, I must have had a feeling because I told Betty Lou to keep the WM receipt handy. Here is the kicker, you ain't going to believe what I am going to do next..... About a month ago, I went and bought one of those APX NXG Umarex things for $50. I put my homemade peep on it and I'm quite impressed with it. I'm gonna take these toys back and get Betty Lou one of those.
Bill, thanks for that short review. I have been considering one, against my own best judgement. I already have 2 760's, a 1997 and a 1975. So I needed another like a hole in the head. And beside in the last 12 months I have bought 1/2 dozen new Crosmans and every single one had quality control issues. So while out the other day i had a choice, a new 760 or a Daisy 35, both right at $33. I came home with the Daisy and was blown away at it's out of the box accuracy. And it feels solid like all of the older all plastic ag's. So thanks for saving me $33 on an Ag I would return. I'll just make my next AG a Daisy 901.
The APX NXG is definitely NOT a Daisy 880 work alike. It has a pump tube with the valve assyembly in the pump tube, though it also is NOT a Crosman work alike. The APX NXG has a little cheaper plastic forgrips than the 880, though a much nicer stock. It is very difficult to repair as all of the securing pins for the tube are flanged at the ends, and would have to be damaged to remove.That said the APX NXG is a good shooter, not Daisy good though good, it has a decent feel, and it is decently accurate (not hunting accurate though). It is a good plinker, I have only one and would not buy a second, though I use my AirGuns for hunting.
You got me thinking about the Umerax APX NXG AirRifle, so I got it out to punch paper at 15 yards. I have only been using it for plinking do to its lack of accuracy, I was some how wrong.At 15 yards it printed a group that is about half a dime across. That was a bit surprising to say the least.And that was with the first pellet I grabbed at random (Winchester domed 9.8 grain).So a bit more on the APX NXG:Sturdy stock, cheap plastic forgrips, long slot for loading pellets, apparently can be accurate, produces decent power, comfortable to hold. The biggest negative is the automatic safety.
Quote from: DavidS on December 24, 2014, 06:38:15 PMYou got me thinking about the Umerax APX NXG AirRifle, so I got it out to punch paper at 15 yards. I have only been using it for plinking do to its lack of accuracy, I was some how wrong.At 15 yards it printed a group that is about half a dime across. That was a bit surprising to say the least.And that was with the first pellet I grabbed at random (Winchester domed 9.8 grain).So a bit more on the APX NXG:Sturdy stock, cheap plastic forgrips, long slot for loading pellets, apparently can be accurate, produces decent power, comfortable to hold. The biggest negative is the automatic safety.David'Thank you for updating your original statement. You saved me from disagreeing with you about the accuracy of the APX. I was wondering if this was going to be another hit or miss gun. I found mine to be very accurate at 15 to 20 yards. Especially with the fabricated peep sight I added to mine. My old eyes need all the help they can get. In fact I would shoot the APX side by side with the 880 anytime. We'll see how the weather improves today, I may get the chrony out and do a side by side review on both. Both are "out of the box" stock except for the peep on the APX.Merry Christmas Ya'll
my parents bought me a 760 for my birthday back in 1976 or so. i remember picking it out in the local sporting goods store. well , they hemmed and hawed because it was as pretty pricy at $37.00. you gotta figure if its still that price today it must be junk.
More robust pumper with a rifled barrel for ~$60? They make it; it's called a 2100. I had one back in the '70s when it was called the 766. Handling and looking at the new one, it seems pretty much identical to the one I had all those years ago. Reading reviews of it by people who have one, including some who had one of the originals, I see that most of them say the same thing.$100+ all metal and wood pumper with rifled barrel and 12-13 fpe? They make that, too. It's called a Benjamin 392/397. I have one of those and could not be more pleased. For the price I paid ($125 with free shipping), I would feel like a jerk if I complained about anything on that one. Adjusting for inflation, my 392 cost less than my 766 did back in the '70s. And although the 766 was good, the 392 is much better.New 760? Yeah, I have one of those too. It does indeed feel cheap and flimsy. But I bought it specifically for plinking and for killing pests in and around the house and outbuildings, using BBs as ammo. It does the job, and for $33 I have no complaints. I have never shot a pellet through it, and probably never will. 10 yards is the maximum range I need it for; anything longer and I grab a different AG.Here is a 10-shot group I shot with it at 5 yards, using Crosman BBs and 10 pumps per shot. 5 yards is short range, but that is what I bought it for.I have shot a new-condition Daisy Red Ryder that was made about 10 years ago. When it was offered to me free, I turned it down. The 760 costs about the same as a Red Ryder, but unlike the Red Ryder it actually has some worth as a shooter.
I guess really I can't complain to much about Crosmans offerings. The M4-177 I got for my Grandson to shoot is sweet. It's really a 760 power plant I think. Looks awesome and can really be decked out with scope/dot sight, laser, flashlight and a bi-pod if you really wanted it all. Would have loved to had one of these as a kid. I would have worn it out in under 6 months though. The plastic stocks on the Daisy's and Crosman's all got wobbly from pumping them up.
Quote from: Craymar on December 25, 2014, 03:05:33 PMI guess really I can't complain to much about Crosmans offerings. The M4-177 I got for my Grandson to shoot is sweet. It's really a 760 power plant I think. Looks awesome and can really be decked out with scope/dot sight, laser, flashlight and a bi-pod if you really wanted it all. Would have loved to had one of these as a kid. I would have worn it out in under 6 months though. The plastic stocks on the Daisy's and Crosman's all got wobbly from pumping them up.How can the stock get wobbly from pumping? As all of the pressure is on the pump arm and receiver when pumping I do not see how pumping could have any effect on the stock.