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values of airguns
« on: December 23, 2014, 03:53:21 AM »
so this is very subjective and just my opinion: the value of an airgun is approx. = (blue book value) - (10% for being not new in box) - (5% for modifications in any way, excluding sights) - (2% for anything not .177cal) +/- (2% for scope/peep/other sights) = (blue book value) - (up to 15-19%)

just my thoughts about what i will pay. (Crosman 13xx and 22xx, may be exceptions...but not immune)

correction: what you will part with $-wise is the perceived value. what an owner wants for their gun is not of any consequence if he can not get a buyer to pay the $$$$.

if you buy a new car for $50,000  and put $100,00 into parts and then try to sell it for $150,000, buyers will balk all day long about the 3X  MSRP junk-bucket that the greedy owner want to unload.

if you think your gun is worth 850 but the sales in the market show only sales under 300 you might not have a gun worth 850, like you think. more like 350, as the market dictates. you can hold on til someone gives you 850, but you will likely see inflation eat your profit (over 40 years), or you'll cave-into the lower price.

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Re: values of airguns
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2014, 08:25:30 AM »
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Re: values of airguns
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2014, 09:28:12 AM »
 IMHO the value of an air gun is the amount of money you will take to part with it, or the amount of money you are willing to pay for it.
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Re: values of airguns
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2014, 09:35:02 AM »
IMHO the value of an air gun is the amount of money you will take to part with it, or the amount of money you are willing to pay for it.

THAT'S the answer in a nutshell.
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Re: values of airguns
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2014, 09:49:48 AM »
IMHO the value of an air gun is the amount of money you will take to part with it, or the amount of money you are willing to pay for it.

THAT'S the answer in a nutshell.
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Re: values of airguns
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2014, 09:52:01 AM »
IMHO the value of an air gun is the amount of money you will take to part with it, or the amount of money you are willing to pay for it.

THAT'S the answer in a nutshell.
:)

Recently I bought a tuned .22 HW97K & a tuned .25 MROD for $525 each, and was happy. I then decided I wanted to go mostly .177 for personal reasons. I traded the HW97K for a Santa Rosa R1 & the MROD for a tuned .177 HW97K and I couldn't be happier. Some may say I lost on the deal, some may say I made out like a bandit. So a lot of it has to do with what you want & what shows up at the time. If you are honest with the buyer/seller everything will work out. :)
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Re: values of airguns
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2014, 10:08:07 AM »
Actually, however, just my humble opinion, the only value an air gun may have, is what someone is willing to pay for it.  You may not want to part with it for less than (x) amount, but in reality, you only get what the buyer is willing to pay for it.  Yes, very subjective, and pricing is being based off a very small, niche, market.

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« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2014, 10:46:13 AM »
While I will not pay much for an AirGun, that is because I can not afford to.    So I do not measure the value in cash.

For me the measure of value of an AirGun is:
Value=(How_well_it_puts_food_on_the_table + ((2 * enjoyment_provided)/3) + (100 / purchase_price))/3

This is not a cash value, it is a true value with nothing to do with money (other than the lower the cost of a rifle for it providing food and enjoyment the better it is).
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Re: values of airguns
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2014, 10:52:29 AM »
Is there a blue book for airguns?

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Re: values of airguns
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2014, 11:03:03 AM »
Is there a blue book for airguns?

I keep all my boxes...

Yep...there is.
http://bluebookofgunvalues.com/Airgun_Values/
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« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2014, 11:05:05 AM »
IMHO the value of an air gun is the amount of money you will take to part with it, or the amount of money you are willing to pay for it.

That pretty much sums things up.

I've noticed the price of vintage guns like old Benjamin's, Sheridans and some Crosmans steadily climbing in the short time I've been collecting. I believe they were under valued possibly because of the recession or maybe the recession held back the prices for awhile?

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Re: values of airguns
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2014, 12:53:47 PM »
Like cars, you never really get back, what you put into it. Kind of a bummer actually, sometimes it's better to just keep it.

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« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2014, 01:41:27 PM »
I really don't go by book values on any of the used guns we buy, air guns or otherwise. In this day and age of internet sales, the used gun market is highly volatile. Books are typically outdated by the time they are in print. I find books more valuable for the model listings they include, but even with that, I encounter a lot of mistakes.

As to air guns, specifically, in our area, air guns are a very minor market. When I do find one for sale at a local shop, it usually goes cheap because demand is so low. The other side of the coin, of course, is that you can hardly give an air gun away around here. Most of our local shooters are pretty ignorant about air guns.
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Re: values of airguns
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2014, 02:40:28 PM »
When something comes along that I like or want. I look at the price then look in my wallet. If the two match and the bills are paid I buy. If they don't match I ask the seller if he might take a little less. If he does, we have a deal. If not, the search continues, no hard feelings. Only we know what we are willing to pay and what we are willing to sell for. And alot of times it just boils down to what we can afford.
From time to time I run accross people looking to buy an airgun and they just want to plink or pest around the house. After finding out what they intend to use it for, I ask how much they want to spend. If I have something that I am willing to let go of, I sell it. If not, I try to refer them to somewhere they can get it at a good price. I enjoy this hobby/sport and I enjoy watching others enjoy it. If I can encourage that with a few bucks here and there, I find it very rewarding.
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Re: values of airguns
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2014, 10:54:54 PM »
While I will not pay much for an AirGun, that is because I can not afford to.    So I do not measure the value in cash.

For me the measure of value of an AirGun is:
Value=(How_well_it_puts_food_on_the_table + ((2 * enjoyment_provided)/3) + (100 / purchase_price))/3

This is not a cash value, it is a true value with nothing to do with money (other than the lower the cost of a rifle for it providing food and enjoyment the better it is).

Wow, this perspective was interesting.  I don't have to put food on my table via an airgun, but I respect the person that may have to.  However, with that said, if my family getting fed, depended on my airgun, "dang" well be the best. most accurate available ... apparently if I miss, the family goes without a meal.  Not going to be frugal, when it comes to this gun.
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Re: values of airguns
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2014, 11:29:55 PM »
While I will not pay much for an AirGun, that is because I can not afford to.    So I do not measure the value in cash.

For me the measure of value of an AirGun is:
Value=(How_well_it_puts_food_on_the_table + ((2 * enjoyment_provided)/3) + (100 / purchase_price))/3

This is not a cash value, it is a true value with nothing to do with money (other than the lower the cost of a rifle for it providing food and enjoyment the better it is).

Wow, this perspective was interesting.  I don't have to put food on my table via an airgun, but I respect the person that may have to.  However, with that said, if my family getting fed, depended on my airgun, "dang" well be the best. most accurate available ... apparently if I miss, the family goes without a meal.  Not going to be frugal, when it comes to this gun.
My $45 Daisy 880's do the job and provide more than we can eat.   My Daisy 22X that was a gift is also capable of providing more than we can eat.

It does not take a high dolor AG to do the job.   The key is the person behind the gun more than the gun.

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Re: values of airguns
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2014, 11:32:20 PM »
The packing, boxing and going to the post office or ups. I'll just keep'em. I mailed an old B3 with a scope, a Limbsaver recoil pad and an AK sling to a friend in up sate N.Y. for nothing. Back in August I gave a Titan Gp, a B3 and a B1 to a young guy just starting into A/G's. Then I sold him one of my QB57 cheap. Couple of month's ago I took 9 guns to a fun shoot priced cheap(like $40 for a X20s). Only one guy said he wanted one but didn't have the money. When we were all getting ready to go home I gave it to him. Wife says I have to many then complains when I give'em away. Tried to get her to buy me a Diana 470th for Christmas. She can afford it. Got some after shave and a pair of dress slacks( She don't like my carpenter jeans when we go out. Jesus was a carpenter) But I got me a QB78 Deluxe modified to hpa. Snuck it in. Can't miss.
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Re: values of airguns
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2014, 08:20:31 AM »
While I will not pay much for an AirGun, that is because I can not afford to.    So I do not measure the value in cash.

For me the measure of value of an AirGun is:
Value=(How_well_it_puts_food_on_the_table + ((2 * enjoyment_provided)/3) + (100 / purchase_price))/3

This is not a cash value, it is a true value with nothing to do with money (other than the lower the cost of a rifle for it providing food and enjoyment the better it is).



It does not take a high dolor AG to do the job.   The key is the person behind the gun more than the gun.

   This sums it up right there. The person behind the gun. I put food on the table and pest with air guns most put their noses down to. My Gamo Big Cat .22 which is not tuned and has the stock trigger kills anything I aim it at, from woodchucks down. My lowly Daisy 880 outperforms all of my Crosmans and also kills whatever it is pointed at, from rabbits on down. The price of the AG does not make it more or less capable. The capability lies in the one holding said weapon.

   Well said David.








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Re: values of airguns
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2014, 09:42:06 AM »
IMHO the value of an air gun is the amount of money you will take to part with it, or the amount of money you are willing to pay for it.

That pretty much sums things up.

I've noticed the price of vintage guns like old Benjamin's, Sheridans and some Crosmans steadily climbing in the short time I've been collecting. I believe they were under valued possibly because of the recession or maybe the recession held back the prices for awhile?

Bryan

I always felt that they were under valued as well.  If i had a vintage benji or 'dan that shot hard and was still accurate, in fairly decent shape, it would take more than a couple hundred bucks for me to part with it.  And even then, I'd think twice about letting it go... only if i absolutely needed the money for something a whole lot more important
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« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2014, 10:35:57 AM »
 ;D While I agree that the shooter is a key factor in the end result of where the projectile ends up be it a well placed head shot on a pest or food for the dinner table. Where I disagree is in viewing another shooters choice as being a poor one we choose our rifles based on budget and and desire. I will not tell someone that my rifle is the better rifle than another persons because I simply do not know what motivates his choices. For me and where I am in my life it is about function and beauty. For utility and reasonable power I have a Marauder .25 synthetic stock. I also have a Daisy 880 that I shoot and plan On making a wood stock and fore stock for . Now I pose a question which is the better rifle?
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