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Sfttailrdr46 · « **Reply #180 on:** November 18, 2014, 11:25:15 PM »

I know it is a pumper but will there be a foster fill also?

CarsonRatSniper · « **Reply #181 on:** November 18, 2014, 11:50:59 PM »

Yes!
It will have a Foster fill nipple on the side of the gauge manifold for tethering or filling from a pump or buddy bottle.

Mike

jvanschoonhoven · « **Reply #182 on:** November 19, 2014, 12:33:57 AM »

I think my biggest problem now is deciding what optic to mount on this awesome rifle.

Sfttailrdr46 · « **Reply #183 on:** November 19, 2014, 12:46:30 AM »

Ok it sounds like you have another .25 sold

CarsonRatSniper · « **Reply #184 on:** November 19, 2014, 01:11:59 AM »

Jim's good friend that started Nightforce Scopes with him is now a rep for Kahles...I've been discussing air rifle scopes with him.

He's letting us use one of his Kahles scopes for photo ops when we have some finished guns.

We will have a pow wow and see if Kahles can bring a 30mm main tube with 36mm objective and ocular bell with side focus and an air gun specific reticle.
Kahles realizes the air gun market is worth pursuing...
I'm thinking something fairly small, not too heavy and 6-18 power.

The joys of knowing certain folks!

I will let you guys know if something is in the works as far as glass goes.

Mike

TleVta · « **Reply #185 on:** November 19, 2014, 01:16:25 AM »

Quote from: CarsonRatSniper on November 19, 2014, 01:11:59 AM

Kahles realizes the air gun market is worth pursuing...
I'm thinking something fairly small, not too heavy and 6-18 power.

I'd prefer something much lighter than a UTG log.

That LDC photo is killing me, Mike.

CarsonRatSniper · « **Reply #186 on:** November 19, 2014, 01:24:02 AM »

Wait until I show you pics of our monocore!
You're gonna need a bib LOL

Mike

jvanschoonhoven · « **Reply #187 on:** November 19, 2014, 02:01:06 AM »

My friend has the Kahlas 1-6 scope for 3 gun and its awesome! Very nice optics and definitely not budget minded but will definitely do the job

Are you thinking a ffp scope or sfp? For hunting the ffp is really nice cause you can use holds on any power.

CarsonRatSniper · « **Reply #188 on:** November 19, 2014, 03:19:31 AM »

FFP is nice...I'm spoiled with my US Optics SN-3. All of my other scopes are SFP and they're useful since the holdover marks are more extreme on low power. I can shoot my rimfires at 400 yards on 3x since the field if view is larger...not the best for seeing your target up close, but useful.

I will inquire as to price difference between the 2.

Maybe I can work with Bob on a reticle that'll work ballistically between the .25 & .30 calibers.

Mike

jvanschoonhoven · « **Reply #189 on:** November 19, 2014, 07:52:06 AM »

If this rifle scope combo is made correctly it would be insane! I see ffp reticle with drop lines from 25 yards out to 150 calculated for your custom bullets with holds for a 10mph wind. I think drop lines every 10 yards up close then as the range gets farther switch to 5 yards. Also some kind of ranging scale
would make those quick shots super fast.

I have a bdc reticle on my competition rifle and after you have used one that actually matchs your gun correctly it's hard to go back to standard mill reticle

CarsonRatSniper · « **Reply #190 on:** November 19, 2014, 10:25:32 PM »

Hey guys, the scope I had in mind already exists!

The Nightforce NXS Compact 2.5-10x32 with the MOAR reticle.

1 lb 3 oz
12" long
32mm Objective bell, 30mm main tube & 33mm Ocular bell

I'm going to call them and see if I can visit the factory tomorrow or Friday and look at one...if they can make it focus down to 10 yards I will be ordering one after I receive my RAW.

Mike

jvanschoonhoven · « **Reply #191 on:** November 19, 2014, 10:39:03 PM »

Vortex also makes a 2-10x ffp scope that actually has quite good glass only trouble is parallax is 50 yards.
The Nightforce is a nice scope but only comes in sfp so thats a no go for me. I might contact vortex and see if they can change the parallax

CarsonRatSniper · « **Reply #192 on:** November 19, 2014, 10:49:48 PM »

I'm going to see if Nightforce is willing to do custom orders with FFP and the Velocity 1000 reticle...I think it would be a great scope.
Adjusting parallax is very easy...Jim can do that. I'll take a look at the Vortex too...

*edit* I just checked out the Vortex...it focuses down to 35 yards - its a pretty nice scope! The Nightforce wins the reticle battle though if they'll do the Velocity 1000 reticle.

At least I have 2 manufacturers I can approach that would only need slight tweaks to an existing scope.

Mike

jvanschoonhoven · « **Reply #193 on:** November 19, 2014, 11:53:27 PM »

I know from a manufacturers point of view it would be alot easier to put a different reticle in a scope then It would be to redesign a sfp scope to be a ffp. Just something to think about.

CarsonRatSniper · « **Reply #194 on:** November 20, 2014, 12:36:59 AM »

I'm going to play Devils Advocate for the SFP based on conversations with one of my friends who is an active USMC Sniper Platoon Commander, awarded the Bronze Star with Combat V, was only short of the confirmed longest American sniper kill by 100 meters (SASR @ *edit* 2204 meters) and is currently assigned to head the USMC Scout Sniper Program...and has been for a couple of years now.
I'm not giving out his name on an open international forum...bad OPSEC.

FFP vs SFP doesn't matter - when engaging targets you're at maximum magnification which is why *most* scopes do their range finding at that setting...unless you're shooting the SASR there's not much use for magnification above 10x as it limits your field of view to identify multiple threats and ability to correctly lead moving targets (out to 800 meters).

I know - entirely different application to circumstances vs air rifle hunting - but my view remains the same.
*If* I have time to range a target then I have time to crank up the power setting.

At most typical air rifle hunting distances, 75 yards is the farthest you'll be shooting...I would rather have a useable reticle at different power settings (reticle stays same size).
My USMC Mil Dot on my US Optics SN3 1.8-10x44 is almost non existent @ 1.8x - it is a little 'x' in the center of my scope. That's for CQB in a pinch (low power setting) but I operate with that scope @ 10x...its a FFP scope.

I have charted all of my SFP scopes to know my holdovers at a certain power setting for a given distance.

Just the *other side* of SFP vs FFP

Mike

jvanschoonhoven · « **Reply #195 on:** November 20, 2014, 01:25:30 AM »

Good post! I really respect your friends opinion and I agree with you to a point. And that is why more manufactures are now making dual focal plane scopes that offer a good close quarters reticle in sfp and a bdc reticl in ffp.

for airgun distances 25 to 150 yards I think it is a lot easier to guess the range and use a hold for drop then It is to guess how far 700 yards is and hold for that.
If you have time to range it you probably have time to dial rather than hold.
Of course this is just my opinion

Sfttailrdr46 · « **Reply #196 on:** November 20, 2014, 07:04:46 AM »

I am glad that my retirement is only a couple of weeks away . Now I will have the time to learn more about the science of the hobby that has lasted a lifetime (shooting). My days of competitive shooting were spent with open sights and the only long range shooting was done with open sights and known predetermined distances. Therefore there was more art than science in my shooting. Knowing my gun and how it shot was paramount. Next spring I will be an educated shooter with science in my back pocket

and a Millenium pumper in my arsenal

jvanschoonhoven · « **Reply #197 on:** November 20, 2014, 02:54:34 PM »

I am sure you are going to have a blast with your new rifle!
Long range shooting is so much fun! But gets a bit expensive with firearms.
I just came over to airguns last year and am loving it! You have all the same challenges as long range without the cost and noise.
Learning your ballistics making wind calls accurate range estimation all comes in to play even at only 100 yards. I really enjoy the challenge of hunting long range with my pellet rifle! I Cant wait for these guns to be in production they are a work of art and very well thought out design. Finally someone is making the gun I have been searching for the past 2 years.
I almost got a fx independence last year but decided against it for a few reasons. Mike has solved all the issues I had with the fx and from what I have seen so far is going to produce a gun that is a cut Above.

CarsonRatSniper · « **Reply #198 on:** November 21, 2014, 12:05:59 PM »

Hey guys, I'm *seriously* considering making the Millennium a Side Pumper.

One of the members here e mailed me pics of his Sharp Target Model pumper and I like it.

The pump arm is to the right of the barrel.
I would have Jim make a nice 7075 aluminum pump handle for the lever.

This would allow *full* stock support (no forearm cutting) and you'd have a better place to grab the rifle from (on the forearm) for pumping...avoiding having to grab the scope to pump it.
It would also allow for a larger variety of stocks to be used other than just the Blaster.

What do you think?
Bob? Any comments?

Mike

c670809 · « **Reply #199 on:** November 21, 2014, 01:27:33 PM »

In theory I like the idea. It seems the added cost would be offset because there would be no need to modify the other stock.

It would look nice and be functional.

As long as it doesn't make it harder for you or increase the cost much I think it's great.

Matt Hayes

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Millennium Pumper Production - *The Beginning* - And The Lousy End

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Millennium Pumper Production - The Beginning - And The Lousy End

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