Ruger Blackhawk Elite Tuning - My First

[longhunter]

15 yards. I'm shipping the trigger group to Mike tomorrow. But I need to get it out. Disassembly instructions anyone?

Real simple. Put gun in compressor. Take off plastic endcap. Pull safety lever out. Now you're looking at the back end of the trigger assembly. Screw compressor in just enough to take pressure off the two pins that go through the receiver. Push the pins out with a drift punch. ( if they give you a hard time, increase or decrease tension while pushing on pins ). They usually slide out pretty easily. Now back off the compressor while holding on to the trigger group. It's that simple.

Put the pins back in the trigger group and wrap a little tape around them, so they don't fall out.
DON'T take the black plastic sleeve off the trigger group!! Not unless you want to be picking parts up off the floor. Mail everything to mike and set back , wait for the magic package to arrive.

[UCChris]

15 yards. I'm shipping the trigger group to Mike tomorrow. But I need to get it out. Disassembly instructions anyone?

Real simple. Put gun in compressor. Take off plastic endcap. Pull safety lever out. Now you're looking at the back end of the trigger assembly. Screw compressor in just enough to take pressure off the two pins that go through the receiver. Push the pins out with a drift punch. ( if they give you a hard time, increase or decrease tension while pushing on pins ). They usually slide out pretty easily. Now back off the compressor while holding on to the trigger group. It's that simple.

Put the pins back in the trigger group and wrap a little tape around them, so they don't fall out.
DON'T take the black plastic sleeve off the trigger group!! Not unless you want to be picking parts up off the floor. Mail everything to mike and set back , wait for the magic package to arrive.

Clear instructions, thank you! I'm going to send that off to Mike and order a PG2 kit tomorrow! Single piece mount also comes tomorrow. Now I just gotta find the right scope!

[UCChris]

And she's out! HUGE thank you to you Scott! Here is what I have. Is this what I send to Mike?



Here is a pic of the workbench! I'm officially hooked on this tinkering thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[UCChris]

Sorry to triple post, but I'm still a little confused. Will I need/want one of Mike's tophats in addition to the Vortek PG2 kit? If I do, will Mike's tophat replace part number 38 in the diagram that Jon posted?



Also, I tore the gun down the rest of the way. Much simpler than I was thinking. This is fun!

[TooJung2Die]

Put the pins back in the trigger group and wrap a little tape around them, so they don't fall out.

Before you ship the trigger group to Mike, measure the diameter of those two receiver pins. You will need two more just like them but shorter to get the trigger back into the compression tube! Make the re-assembly pins the same length as the diameter of the trigger group. Put them in the holes where the long pins are now. They should be long enough to hold everything in the trigger group in place but short enough so they don't stick out either side of the trigger group.

Now you can push the trigger group back into the compression tube with your spring compressor without anything in the trigger falling out of position. When the holes in the trigger group line up with the holes in the compression tube, use the long receiver pins to push out the short re-assembly pins.

I found a cheap philips screw driver in my junk box that was exactly the diameter of the receiver pins. It made two nice re-assembly pins. A couple of drill bit shanks the right diameter and cut to length work too.

Jon

[RinCG]

Good advice on the pins Jon. I "found" mine at the local hardware store in the spares container for door closers. They even are tapered on one end for ease of use.

[UCChris]

Thanks for the tip! I was under the impression that, as long as the black sleeve (part no. 39) was on, I was good to put it back in without pins.

[longhunter]

Sorry to triple post, but I'm still a little confused. Will I need/want one of Mike's tophats in addition to the Vortek PG2 kit? If I do, will Mike's tophat replace part number 38 in the diagram that Jon posted?

No, the pg2 kit will replace the spring and rear guide, as well as the piston liner. You won't need a tophat from Mike. The kit will have one in it.
Did you order the kit with the piston seal?

Also, let me know if you want to get rid of the factory spring and rear guide ( part # 38 ).i wouldn't mind having a spare set.

[UCChris]

I haven't ordered the kit yet. I was planning on getting the piston seal. Should I not?

I will let you know if I decide to dump the spring and guide.

[TooJung2Die]

Sorry to triple post, but I'm still a little confused. Will I need/want one of Mike's tophats in addition to the Vortek PG2 kit? If I do, will Mike's tophat replace part number 38 in the diagram that Jon posted?

Nope. Top hat and reversed sleeve or PG2 kit, not both. You keep spring guide #38 with the top hat and reversed sleeve. You replace #38 with the spring guides that come in the PG2 kit.

The short pins make getting the receiver pins back in much easier. The safety in the trigger group can get in the way of the pins going in and without the short pins to guide them you can accidentally damage the safety by forcing the pins.

Needing a new piston seal depends on the condition of the original. Any score marks or other damage to the seal?

Jon

Sorry Scott, didn't see your post about the top hat.

[longhunter]

I haven't ordered the kit yet. I was planning on getting the piston seal. Should I not?

I will let you know if I decide to dump the spring and guide.

Definitely get the seal. And, be careful when you install it. If you look closely at the factory seal, you'll understand.

[UCChris]

I already understand. My piston seal is chewed up! There is a sharp spot on the main tube. I will shoot some close up pics and post them. I want to sand it down smooth, but I need to check with you all to make sure it can be sanded down without affecting function.

Anybody got a guide on what I should lube and sand and whatnot while I'm in the guts of my gun?

[Blue]

http://www.charliedatuna.com/airgun_docs/B19%20Super%20Tune.doc

Read the section called "The Receiver".  Even though the article is about B-18/19's, the same basics apply.  You can cross hatch the cylinder and de-burr all the stamped slots while it's all apart if you want, your piston seal will thank you.  Also polish the washers and spring ends while they're out.  I'd just do the whole supertune (as much as apples to the 34 clones).  You can get the specific lubes from Air Rifle Headquarters (if you don't have them already), and SuperLube is available online or at Ace Hardware.

If you think she's sweet now, just wait until you knock the rough edges off.

[Blue]

If you order lubes from ARH, look for his bundle.  He's got the three things you want (clear tar, heavy tar, and moly paste) in a bundle that saves you a few bucks.

You can use some of the moly paste to make Gene Sunday's Mystery Oil.

Also search for info about some alternate lubes some of the folks are using like Krytox.  I have no experience with it, but it sounds like another option you could try if you want.

[UCChris]

I will find that bundle.

This one?

http://www.airrifleheadquarters.com/catalog/item/251484/4169286.htm

Tack on another $23. This project is getting expensive!

[Blue]

Yeah, if you want all three.

I skipped the clear tar and it's so much better after using just the moly and heavy tar I can't imagine things get that much better with the few areas the clear tar goes but I personally don't know.

You'll have enough to do many more lubes in the future and the moly paste (and Mystery Oil you can make) can be used on your other guns.

I look at it as an investment in proper maintenance supplies.

[UCChris]

Ordered the Vortek kit and lubes tonight. Sending trigger group to Mike in the morning. Now I just gotta figure out what scope to top it with...

I'm hoping to get it all back together this Friday. Hopefully, the loud twang and buzz will be reduced to a dull thud.

[longhunter]

I've had good luck with the center point adventure class 4-16x40. You can pick them up at wallyworld under a hundred bucks.

[FrozenVapors]

I've had good luck with the center point adventure class 4-16x40. You can pick them up at wallyworld under a hundred bucks.

wow! Mine stunk Wouldn't focus past 8x

[UCChris]

I'm thinking about a Leapers Bugbuster.

Or I might just grab a 3-9 from Mike. I don't need mildots since all my hunting is done within the 1/2" killzone zero.