Author Topic: Beeman Silver Kodiak 2X Rebuild (Read 44543 times))

Privateer · « **Reply #60 on:** April 07, 2014, 04:57:04 PM »

Paul,
What did you heat the spring in/with?
I have a wood burner out back that can heat the whole spring at once and doing multi-quenches wouldn't be much trouble.
(Throw up the yard lamps and tell the Wife it's 'our night in Spring'? I'm good.

)
Also a good reason to buy a remote temp thingy!

Oh. I'll measure the spring I have now and the new one and post.

Note that the original spring is easily bent!

Now I'm not a spring expert but this seems way wrong to me.

Paul68 · « **Reply #61 on:** April 07, 2014, 05:15:27 PM »

Yeah, the specs on the new spring before installation would be greatly appreciated. I never did measure any of mine.

I heated my spring using a torch and steel rod to keep the spring straight. Pure garage level science over here

Privateer · « **Reply #62 on:** April 07, 2014, 05:21:45 PM »

Quote from: Paul68 on April 07, 2014, 05:15:27 PM

Pure garage level science over here

Man after my own heart.

I grabbed the wood burner when Dad went to propane for his garage. I use it a lot to preheat before bending stuff.
It's got a glass door so I can watch things and convince the Wife it's a romantic evening.

(Don't tell her!)

hogrider04 · « **Reply #63 on:** April 07, 2014, 07:09:49 PM »

My old spring is straight as an arrow............................both pieces of it!!!

Jerry

grizz · « **Reply #64 on:** April 08, 2014, 06:02:53 AM »

I remember my dad used to make gun springs he would heat to point of iridecec ( no longer magnetic ) quench in oil to harden
then he would dip it into molten lead for about 15 seconds. said it would make the spring not so brittle.they were mostly flat springs

Privateer · « **Reply #65 on:** April 08, 2014, 05:58:39 PM »

Quote from: hogrider04 on April 07, 2014, 07:09:49 PM

My old spring is straight as an arrow............................both pieces of it!!!

Mine was too. I bent it by hand with very little effort! That surprised the Huh? outta me.
I didn't go nuts trying to bend it. Just took it about 30 degrees with no effort and it was bent.

hogrider04 · « **Reply #66 on:** April 09, 2014, 11:04:20 AM »

I think we might be in trouble on getting the springs in a timely manner. I was told mine would ship Monday, but nothing on the card yet. Maybe someone will chime in here on a good replacement part from other sources. The arrow guy is out of stock as well, so that's out.

You have any idea of other springs that would work? I can't come up with any clone rifles that share the same one.

Jerry

Privateer · « **Reply #67 on:** April 10, 2014, 12:40:57 PM »

New spring and seals came in today. Still no charge on my CC.

Paul68 · « **Reply #68 on:** April 10, 2014, 01:18:08 PM »

Quote from: hogrider04 on April 09, 2014, 11:04:20 AM

I think we might be in trouble on getting the springs in a timely manner. I was told mine would ship Monday, but nothing on the card yet. Maybe someone will chime in here on a good replacement part from other sources. The arrow guy is out of stock as well, so that's out.

You have any idea of other springs that would work? I can't come up with any clone rifles that share the same one.

Jerry

You could try dealing directly with Beeman. Marksman products in Cali I believe is their distributor. As I mentioned earlier, there are few options with springs, which makes tuning these a challenge.

hogrider04 · « **Reply #69 on:** April 10, 2014, 01:40:18 PM »

Quote from: Paul68 on April 10, 2014, 01:18:08 PM

Quote from: hogrider04 on April 09, 2014, 11:04:20 AM
I think we might be in trouble on getting the springs in a timely manner. I was told mine would ship Monday, but nothing on the card yet. Maybe someone will chime in here on a good replacement part from other sources. The arrow guy is out of stock as well, so that's out.

You have any idea of other springs that would work? I can't come up with any clone rifles that share the same one.

Jerry

You could try dealing directly with Beeman. Marksman products in Cali I believe is their distributor. As I mentioned earlier, there are few options with springs, which makes tuning these a challenge.

I ordered from the 800 number at the bottom of this link because everyone else was out of stock. http://www.beeman.com/store/?ret_id=1240879 I think it is Beeman direct. I know one thing, they don't respond to emails. Not near as good as Crosman. This will be my last Beeman for sure.

Jerry

Privateer · « **Reply #70 on:** April 10, 2014, 01:55:06 PM »

I called the 562-968-5891 number on the back of the manual.
Parts are here and still not showing on my CC.

hogrider04 · « **Reply #71 on:** April 10, 2014, 01:59:14 PM »

How many days did it take?? I'll give it a few more before I call the other number.

Jerry

Privateer · « **Reply #72 on:** April 10, 2014, 02:03:56 PM »

I ordered it March 31st.
Maybe not the fastest but if they did it as a warranty thing?
I'm not sending it back.

Old on right. New on left.

There's no sign of wear on the Old spring, as to length, after 1000 shots.
Seal? Yes, I can see the difference. The new seal will be tighter on install as it has a nice lip to break in.

SamTheMan · « **Reply #73 on:** April 10, 2014, 05:47:03 PM »

Piston seal bad in 1000 shots and spring busted in 3000 ? Hmmmmm

I bought my Silver Kodiak dual from WalleyWorld and only paid $97 for it, but that's only 2-6 tins of pellets before running into major problems ? Hmmmmm . . . . is that usual for these air rifles ? This is the first more powerful air gun that I've owned. All my other shooting sticks are powder burners.

Privateer · « **Reply #74 on:** April 10, 2014, 06:35:46 PM »

I'm going to say. Given many probably buy and once it goes bad?
It's a yard sell item or trashed? It may be an over looked platform to mod.
I say that because it's easy to follow what has already been done for many AG's.
Yea. I can buy a Nitro Venom and repeat everything already done.
And get the same results most likely.
This Kodiak is a strange beast that given Wally World and others sold seems to be a high volume mover?
Where's the real world, dig into it, answers?
I'm kind of inclined to think GTA will be where those answers are found.
I traded a perfectly good 1322 for a troubled Silver Kodiak with expectations of time, thought, and mistakes, to make it better.
Not to mentions the money that I didn't seem to get charged for.
Thank you Beeman!
Am I the only one that sees a wide open platform to play with?

Yours is not busted is it?

hogrider04 · « **Reply #75 on:** April 10, 2014, 07:04:24 PM »

Quote from: SamTheMan on April 10, 2014, 05:47:03 PM

Piston seal bad in 1000 shots and spring busted in 3000 ? Hmmmmm

I bought my Silver Kodiak dual from WalleyWorld and only paid $97 for it, but that's only 2-6 tins of pellets before running into major problems ? Hmmmmm . . . . is that usual for these air rifles ? This is the first more powerful air gun that I've owned. All my other shooting sticks are powder burners.

Sam, keep in mind, we're only 2 out of the probably hundreds of thousands that are out there. Don't sell yours short unless it turns into a problem child for you. Mine is a great shooter when it's not ailing.

Jerry

Might mention, I have a safe full of powder burners also, and some of them required some work to make shooters out of them.

AK73 · « **Reply #76 on:** April 10, 2014, 08:13:40 PM »

Quote from: Privateer on April 10, 2014, 02:03:56 PM

I ordered it March 31st.
Maybe not the fastest but if they did it as a warranty thing?
I'm not sending it back.

Old on right. New on left.

There's no sign of wear on the Old spring, as to length, after 1000 shots.
Seal? Yes, I can see the difference. The new seal will be tighter on install as it has a nice lip to break in.

Oh I put probably about 1600 (maybe more) or so shots through it total...so I'm astonished at the good condition that spring is in!

Privateer · « **Reply #77 on:** April 10, 2014, 10:07:36 PM »

Paul has posted some really good advice and knowledge about seals and springs.
I'm going to order the Apex seals now and grab that spring also. E whatever blah, blah.

I'm finishing up the deburr and polish on the trigger parts before they all get PTFE coated.
(This stuff is from 1996. So if you see a Mushroom cloud in the direction of Ohio? Sorry.)

SamTheMan · « **Reply #78 on:** April 11, 2014, 07:03:18 AM »

Privateer - thank you for a great thread ! Like others, I've been following your progress & am learning a lot.

And thanks guys for your comments to my post above. No, I haven't had any problems with my Silver Kodiak dual. Only have maybe 400-450 shots through it (less than a full tin of pellets). I've been very impressed by its accuracy with targets out to 100 yards.

Didn't mean to hijack the thread, but since I'm still within the first 30 days since buying from WalleyWorld I was wondering if it might be wise to return it and get something that will last longer. But, maybe the early failures at 1000 and 3000 shots were unusual. I'll have to do more reading here on the forums. Thank you again.

Privateer · « **Reply #79 on:** April 11, 2014, 04:13:57 PM »

Sam,
If your getting good accuracy at 100 yards? Sounds like a keeper to me!
Makes me want to get this one back together even more.

If it can take a bottle at 70+ yards when done? I'll be happy.
I get 2" groups at that distance with the .25 Hatsan. (On a good shootin' day)
I'm pretty sure a better scope will shrink that. (old eyes don't work as well as they use to)

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