Beeman P17 and XSP 120D... Next level builds/mods.



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Re: Beeman P17 and XSP 120D... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #240 on: December 20, 2013, 05:37:23 PM »
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005UGIPUQ/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

For my Flying Dragon Air-Rifles P17!

Should stand-up to opening and closing the breech, I HOPE!

What are you all using, if anything?

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Dont forget a rail adapter. The red dot is a piccatiny and the p17 is a dovetail
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Re: Beeman P17 and XSP 120D... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #241 on: December 20, 2013, 06:39:34 PM »
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005UGIPUQ/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

For my Flying Dragon Air-Rifles P17!

Should stand-up to opening and closing the breech, I HOPE!

What are you all using, if anything?

Regards,

Al.

Dont forget a rail adapter. The red dot is a piccatiny and the p17 is a dovetail

Already looking at some, Thanks!:)
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Re: Beeman P17 and XSP 120D... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #242 on: December 20, 2013, 08:19:27 PM »
These will probably work good with a SSP, but they not so good on springers.  Plus the dont add any height to your red dot

http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/UTG_Weaver_to_11mm_or_3_8_Dovetail_Adapter_2pcs/4148
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Re: Beeman P17 and XSP 120D... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #243 on: December 20, 2013, 08:37:32 PM »
These will probably work good with a SSP, but they not so good on springers.  Plus the dont add any height to your red dot

http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/UTG_Weaver_to_11mm_or_3_8_Dovetail_Adapter_2pcs/4148
I like these. I would suggest trimming the knife edge (as Slavia suggested earlier) to get the most rigid mounting.

These look like they were made for the 17... or vice-versa. Very reasonable price, too.

It's very easy to make a 17 feel top heavy... good reason to own a good trap to capture ballast.

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Re: Beeman P17 and XSP 120D... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #244 on: December 24, 2013, 05:30:07 PM »
I think this is the Stage II barrel. What do you guys think?

14 mm weight... can be cut to all kinds of shapes. Will fit the Mac1 LDC as is, but can also serve as a base for a custom (researching now, could use suggestions).

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Re: Beeman P17 and XSP 120D... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #245 on: December 24, 2013, 06:57:54 PM »
I think this is the Stage II barrel. What do you guys think?

14 mm weight... can be cut to all kinds of shapes. Will fit the Mac1 LDC as is, but can also serve as a base for a custom (researching now, could use suggestions).

Looks great!

Will this be available in .177 as well?

Thanks!

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Re: Beeman P17 and XSP 120D... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #246 on: December 24, 2013, 07:00:47 PM »
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005UGIPUQ/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

For my Flying Dragon Air-Rifles P17!

Should stand-up to opening and closing the breech, I HOPE!

What are you all using, if anything?

Regards,

Al.

Dont forget a rail adapter. The red dot is a piccatiny and the p17 is a dovetail

I have this on the way:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007IG14U4/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Should work just fine, I hope!

Respectfully,

Al.
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.22 Benjamin Titan GP
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.177 QB-57
Plan to have full tune and refinish stock

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Re: Beeman P17 and XSP 120D... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #247 on: December 24, 2013, 07:06:51 PM »
Yes, both... this one is .177, it's part of the SE match prize.

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Re: Beeman P17 and XSP 120D... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #248 on: December 24, 2013, 07:08:43 PM »
Yes, both... this one is .177, it's part of the SE match prize.

I hate that I am missing the current competition yall have going on, or will have going on!

Pretty sure I want .177.

Like the looks of that barrel a lot!

Thanks for the reply!

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Re: Beeman P17... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #249 on: December 24, 2013, 07:09:39 PM »
Cut a MG to 12.5", and set it up for an integrated compensator. I haven't decided what kind of port(s) to cut, but it should look ok. As an SSP, this thing should be very quiet.


Got speeds... L 347, H 358, Av 347. #5... Stock 2.5mm port, compression unknown (feels moderate). Not bad... a touch faster than the 10, and quiet. Tuned up, it should hit 560 360 with 14.3gr CPHP.  ;D


Ran a handful through it, without tearing the stock lower down to check for a sharp edged intake. Made a target, sighted it in and established it's preferred hold... and settled in for some shooting. Immediately started getting double groups. The ring is toast, but I saw enough to know I'm on track to a decent pistol.

Wow!
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Plan to have full tune and refinish stock

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Re: Beeman P17... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #250 on: December 24, 2013, 07:11:48 PM »
I may have seriously underestimated these gun's potential.

14.3gr CPHP.

Wow, again!
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Re: Beeman P17... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #251 on: December 24, 2013, 07:13:12 PM »
There are a lot of little differences, but most can't be seen without both in hand.

I didn't open the 120 all the way for that pic. They are the same, all I've done is make the last couple mm of piston travel adjustable.

I paid MM $55 shipped. Comes with.177 and .22 barrels.

I did not know that it came in both Calibers for $55.00!

That's even more awesomer now!

Al.
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Re: Beeman P17 and XSP 120D... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #252 on: December 24, 2013, 07:18:37 PM »
Can't wait to send Mike M. a check for the $55.00 P17!

Trust me, if I could afford it, I'd get the Stage 1, there's no doubt that its worth every penney and some!

I'll just start off with the $55.00 P17 and then save my money for the P17 S-2!

I'm 100% BLOWN-AWAY at the Level you have taken this Air-Gun!

Respectfully,

Al.
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Re: Beeman P17 and XSP 120D... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #253 on: December 26, 2013, 02:43:49 AM »
Thanks, Al. Stay tuned, there's a lot left to do to these.

Put the upper on my S1, and got a little shooting in. Really like the balance... it's easier to quell the movement (tiny arcs) I tend to have when shooting light guns one-handed.

It's a hitter, too.

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Re: Beeman P17 and XSP 120D... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #254 on: December 26, 2013, 02:49:48 AM »
Thanks, Al. Stay tuned, there's a lot left to do to these.

Put the upper on my S1, and got a little shooting in. Really like the balance... it's easier to quell the movement (tiny arcs) I tend to have when shooting light guns one-handed.

It's a hitter, too.

Love that Barrel!
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Re: Beeman P17 and XSP 120D... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #255 on: December 26, 2013, 12:59:24 PM »
Thanks, Al. Stay tuned, there's a lot left to do to these.

Put the upper on my S1, and got a little shooting in. Really like the balance... it's easier to quell the movement (tiny arcs) I tend to have when shooting light guns one-handed.

It's a hitter, too.

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Re: Beeman P17 and XSP 120D... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #256 on: December 28, 2013, 10:21:57 AM »
If you like that, you'll like this:

Just did a side by side chrony comparison between a stock upper, and the S2, on my S1. Stock barrel runs @ 398, and the 10" @ 451 with Meisters (7gr).

It's got some sting.


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Re: Beeman P17 and XSP 120D... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #257 on: December 28, 2013, 11:42:54 AM »
If you like that, you'll like this:

Just did a side by side chrony comparison between a stock upper, and the S2, on my S1. Stock barrel runs @ 398, and the 10" @ 451 with Meisters (7gr).

It's got some sting.

How do I get 1? ;D. Im having some issues with mine that I need to pick your brain at sometime
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Re: Beeman P17 and XSP 120D... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #258 on: December 28, 2013, 11:49:17 AM »
Drop me an email, Rob. I check it frequently.

We'll sort it out.

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Re: Beeman P17 and XSP 120D... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #259 on: December 31, 2013, 01:07:51 AM »
Got a chance to play, and got an interesting number.

I was curious how much speed would be lost by limiting piston travel to just enough to allow any length barrel (@14mm dia), or an LDC to be mounted. The 10 incher, at that stroke, still ran around 420fps. I'm now very curious what a carbine length barrel would do with the stock SSP set up.

Looks like any shroud (of reasonable dia) can be used that is up to 7 3/4" long, without bringing the gun back down to stock speeds. I have a TKO coming on loan (thanks, G) to proto a specific barrel for, and when time permits I'll dig out my test gear and get a decibel as well as some speed readings on that.

The barrel shown is the second I've cut to S2 spec, and it is quite the little hitter, too. The match prize got leaded up nicely (it hits  ;D), and is in the next coating batch. I'm still convinced the rigidity and precise adjustments provided by front loading barrels are essential to true accuracy, and that making certain the breech seals, while cocked, is an important part of getting the superb ESs. My S1 now hangs with the customs, in accuracy.
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