Gaylord column in PA mailing on page 28 "Vibration vs Velocity"



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Re: Gaylord column in PA mailing on page 28 "Vibration vs Velocity"
« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2012, 06:45:32 PM »
that's kinda the point were making a good tuned spring gun with no vibration shooting in the velocity's I posted will far serve you better then a hyper magnum that's not lubed and springy,twangy,buzzy, what ever you want to call it? the point is all that power will destroy your rifle! a rifle that's full of vibration is not lubed or fitted properly and will accelerate ware on the parts and have a bad shot cycle and won't be as accurate as a tuned gun, that's the conclusion people have come to find out by shooting such guns! but what do I know? I kinda understand the point TG is making but I think if I'm gonna take advice or learning something about AG's it ain't gonna be from him! I'll listen to the PRO tuners who have done this stuff for over 40+yrs or more! just my extra 2ct :P
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Re: Gaylord column in PA mailing on page 28 "Vibration vs Velocity"
« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2012, 09:51:54 PM »
i think that pellet will do very poor at 50-60 yds.

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Re: Gaylord column in PA mailing on page 28 "Vibration vs Velocity"
« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2012, 10:45:49 PM »
i must go with what tom said . my 54 and 460 both are very smooth shooting,no twang or buzzing . both will shoot better than i can see . i let a friend who has a gun store shoot my 54 and he was pleasently suprized at how smooth and accurate it is . my 460 has a tad of recoil but no twang at all . i had a daisy hatsan that twanged bad and you was lucky to hit a barn broadside . also a smooth shootin gun will outlik=ve a viberating gun 10 to 1 . i use either rws superdomes or cphp's sometimes boxed domes but they both shoot in the mid to upper 1050 1000 fps
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Re: Gaylord column in PA mailing on page 28 "Vibration vs Velocity"
« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2012, 12:06:50 PM »
if a pellet slows down bellow the speed of sound quickly after leaving the gun the transition from supper to sub will have a lot of time to affect it's path if the target is far off,  if the transition happens 2 ft from the target there will be no effect.  the guns vibration is not the only thing happening at the muzzle  the supper sonic effect is there at the departure too.  they are no doubt working together.

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Re: Gaylord column in PA mailing on page 28 "Vibration vs Velocity"
« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2012, 12:11:23 PM »
if a pellet slows down bellow the speed of sound quickly after leaving the gun the transition from supper to sub will have a lot of time to affect it's path if the target is far off,  if the transition happens 2 ft from the target there will be no effect.  the guns vibration is not the only thing happening at the muzzle  the supper sonic effect is there at the departure too.  they are no doubt working together.

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Is the pellet already traveling supersonic as it exits the crown?  That would cause the entry effect to be controlled by the barrel.  It would only be the fall off to subsonic downrange that would cause issue.   
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Re: Gaylord column in PA mailing on page 28 "Vibration vs Velocity"
« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2012, 07:19:43 PM »
the shockwave would impact the barrel as the pellet entered the air at supersonic speed and cause some? disturbance?

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Re: Gaylord column in PA mailing on page 28 "Vibration vs Velocity"
« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2012, 07:24:36 PM »
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Re: Gaylord column in PA mailing on page 28 "Vibration vs Velocity"
« Reply #27 on: November 29, 2012, 07:30:36 PM »
guys we are floggin a dead horse . however like tom said he was testing a new piece of equipment that controls viberations . and if it works he will post about it . and if it does there will be a lot of $$$ made by the manufacturer the first few years. might be a place to invest in stock and drop them when it looks like it peaked
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Re: Gaylord column in PA mailing on page 28 "Vibration vs Velocity"
« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2012, 07:54:56 PM »
Keep your hand tight on the wheel and your wallet.
He sure isn't going to revise aero dynamics or physics with that tact.
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Re: Gaylord column in PA mailing on page 28 "Vibration vs Velocity"
« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2012, 08:09:22 PM »
i think the viberation dampener is part of the gun not a new addition to it.  a viberation tunable spring gun is nothing new

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Re: Gaylord column in PA mailing on page 28 "Vibration vs Velocity"
« Reply #30 on: November 29, 2012, 09:10:25 PM »
Sales Gimmick! :P
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Re: Gaylord column in PA mailing on page 28 "Vibration vs Velocity"
« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2012, 08:07:00 AM »
I'm gonna look at it like this if you have a quality AG and its some what tuned and you have the best pellets that the rifle likes and you have some shooting ability you should have no problem shooting a ragged hole @30yds smaller than your pinkie nail! and gizmo's like that are not needed! if a guy needs things like that to aid his shooting ability theirs something wrong some where! JMO :P
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