pump went again

[Sqrl Klr]

Well look at it this way. If he continues to spend $50 a year on sun optics orings then in 3yrs that will be $150. If he spends $40 for the two orings he needs and they last 3yrs then he'll be saving quite a bit of money.

[Bullit]

I don't think $40.00 will come close to covering it.  Look up the size required, and you'll see. And they won't last 3 years.  It's the nature of the beast...pump...   

[Nomadic Pirate]

Sell that pump and get yourself a Hill, .....headaches gone

[Sqrl Klr]

I don't think $40.00 will come close to covering it.  Look up the size required, and you'll see. And they won't last 3 years.  It's the nature of the beast...pump...   

In that case it sounds best to just get another pump.

[alex77147]

didn't know you gotta buy them in bulk.  I don't care for a hill pump, yes they are nice but if they are nice then its possible to build a benjamin pump to do the same.  Why exactly is the hill pump better? better o rings? if so then I will upgrade the o rings and maybe have the ben last as long.  Seriously though, what makes the hill better?

[alex77147]

what makes the hill better?

Quality control.

ok so  then I can make a ben just as good if I use quality o rings and lube?

[1377x]

does the hill pumps have dry packs? cleaner,drier air higher quality air makes better power
does the benji pump have them?
all this rebuilding and buying o-rings makes me want a tank over a pump even a 3k scuba tank sounds better than the alternative
around here i can get a fresh hydro'd scuba tank $100 otd with at least 7 years left on the tank.get a fill station on ebay for $35 but i already have one from my last trip to the darkside

[Nomadic Pirate]

I don't know what makes Hill better, but they sure are, if you think you can make your Crosman pump as good as a Hill, go ahead, amuse yourself LOL

[Butcher45]

Alex here's a good read on handpumps and "why the Hill".

http://www.talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6063

[Gary]

Alex, I sent you a PM no subject in the subject line.
Gary

[mtsheron70]

ok I will call marcorubber and see if I can get some kalrez o rings.  If I do I will definitely let you guys know how they hold up.  Also is silicone oil safe to use on viton and kalrez?

They are expensive!  And not knowing if this will fix the issue may be a barn burner!  Can you answer me this???  Would you not benefit from buying a Hill pump which has a workhorse reputation?  Not knowing if this will or is the issue may be so costly that the money would be wiser spent on a Hill.  But then again the question arises that what if it fixes the issue? 

Just be fairly sure you know where the failure is before you invest alot of hard earned moolah.......then again, you may be a trust fund baby as I call them and have unlimited income!

I just hate to see you throw a custom $5k paint job and similar engine build to a Vega................because at the end of the day you know what you still have???  A Vega!

Let us know what the outcome is.  Good luck.

[alex77147]

I won't be buying from marcorubber, I just think its possible that I can build or rebuild my handpump to last.  Just gotta use the right stuff.  My guess is that the hill is so good because they use high quality parts.

[alex77147]

Alex here's a good read on handpumps and "why the Hill".

http://www.talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6063

still doesn't explain why the hill is better.

[1377x]

like it was said before heat is the enemy.pump so take breaks and the pump will last longer ,unless there is an underlying problem you havent seen

[Nomadic Pirate]

I won't be buying from marcorubber, I just think its possible that I can build or rebuild my handpump to last.  Just gotta use the right stuff.  My guess is that the hill is so good because they use high quality parts.

Guess you could change every single part on the Crosman pump with other brands parts and make it better LOL

Maybe you could buy Hill of FX parts, LOL

[alex77147]

I won't be buying from marcorubber, I just think its possible that I can build or rebuild my handpump to last.  Just gotta use the right stuff.  My guess is that the hill is so good because they use high quality parts.

Guess you could change every single part on the Crosman pump with other brands parts and make it better LOL

Maybe you could buy Hill of FX parts, LOL

lol it wont be a crosman anymore.

[mtsheron70]

I won't be buying from marcorubber, I just think its possible that I can build or rebuild my handpump to last.  Just gotta use the right stuff.  My guess is that the hill is so good because they use high quality parts.

Why are Toyotas; Hondas; and Subarus better than Ford; Chrysler; and Chevy??  All are made of steel and internal combustion engines.  Well your right in a way.......QC and strict tolerance on parts in the build.

But I read and saw where a Crosman pump had what appeared to be a main shaft that was flaking off or peeling you might say.  Almost like it was a plated material.  I can tell you Hill or at least mine is solid with no plating.  Probably a multitude of things that make Hill better. 

I guess the one thing that perplexes me is the comment you made that you don't like Hill.  Why???  Because they are British???  I buy when I can quality over any prejudices I may have.  But you may have your reasons but if you like pumping the Hill is a beast!

[GarthThomas]

It won't matter what you get if you pump like a mad fiend.

[Butcher45]

Alex here's a good read on handpumps and "why the Hill".

http://www.talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6063

still doesn't explain why the hill is better.

Really?

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.  Good luck with your handpump endeavors.

[alex77147]

I won't be buying from marcorubber, I just think its possible that I can build or rebuild my handpump to last.  Just gotta use the right stuff.  My guess is that the hill is so good because they use high quality parts.

Why are Toyotas; Hondas; and Subarus better than Ford; Chrysler; and Chevy??  All are made of steel and internal combustion engines.  Well your right in a way.......QC and strict tolerance on parts in the build.

But I read and saw where a Crosman pump had what appeared to be a main shaft that was flaking off or peeling you might say.  Almost like it was a plated material.  I can tell you Hill or at least mine is solid with no plating.  Probably a multitude of things that make Hill better. 

I guess the one thing that perplexes me is the comment you made that you don't like Hill.  Why???  Because they are British???  I buy when I can quality over any prejudices I may have.  But you may have your reasons but if you like pumping the Hill is a beast!

That is not what I meant, its not that I don't like the hill its just I would like to make my benjamin pump work.  I am the type that likes to work on things and either fix them or make them better.  So far I have polished the main tube and other moving parts of the pump that might prevent the rings from lasting.  Now i'm trying to get some quality o rings.