HATSAN 125 SPRINGER VS WALTER FALCON HUNTER NITRO

[WHITEFANG]

Just going to throw this at yawl. In comparing the Hatson 125 springer to the WFH Nitro I have set them side by and with out tearing them down they look really the same. In shooting they both have the same twang sound. The cocking effort to me is about the same other than the nitro seems to have a slight bit more resistance in the brake over at the last of the stroke. I account this to the nitro piston reaching its full power and the design of compression. The Hatson has more of a twist when shooting than the WFH. Now the Hatsan is .25 and the WFH is .22. Really I don't see that much difference other that the twist. The shot cycle seems much shorter in the WFH than the Hatsan. The Hatsan stock has more meat in the forearm area than the WFH. On the WFH the stock in the forearm area is flexing where as the Hatsan seems solid. Both guns are powerhouse guns and straight shooters. I can see both these guns as scope eaters. I love the way the .25 cal. shoots. I know it is slower FPS wise but when it makes impact it has a thud. Blackbirds are sweep off their feet and even pushed backwards on impact. Daylight shines through the board fence where I croned the gun. Some of the spent pellets in the trap have spread out the size of a dime. Not hard to figure out the difference in which one is the .25. I have no issue with the thumb hole and the safety. Only problem that I have being an RWS PERSON IS THE SAFETYS work the opposite. Push one in and pull the other out to take it off safety. One other thing that I had never tryed was to uncock the gun OR LETS SAY DECOMPRESS THE SPRING on the WFH like you can on some other guns such as the RWS. You can not do this on these guns so if you don't want to leave the gun cocked you wile have to discharge the gun. I would buy anther Hatsan or walther. I will buy me another .25 of some sort for sure. Have fun with your new HATSAN and be safe.

[Tarheel]

Fang,

Great observations and attention to detail . . .

Dave

[Mike 4888blues]

 Hi Dave, just received a pdf file-invoice from moller for the piston, Soon as I here from Cris weather or not he wants his also, I will call to process the order
Mike

[Mike 4888blues]

Just going to throw this at yawl. In comparing the Hatson 125 springer to the WFH Nitro I have set them side by and with out tearing them down they look really the same. In shooting they both have the same twang sound. The cocking effort to me is about the same other than the nitro seems to have a slight bit more resistance in the brake over at the last of the stroke. I account this to the nitro piston reaching its full power and the design of compression. The Hatson has more of a twist when shooting than the WFH. Now the Hatsan is .25 and the WFH is .22. Really I don't see that much difference other that the twist. The shot cycle seems much shorter in the WFH than the Hatsan. The Hatsan stock has more meat in the forearm area than the WFH. On the WFH the stock in the forearm area is flexing where as the Hatsan seems solid. Both guns are powerhouse guns and straight shooters. I can see both these guns as scope eaters. I love the way the .25 cal. shoots. I know it is slower FPS wise but when it makes impact it has a thud. Blackbirds are sweep off their feet and even pushed backwards on impact. Daylight shines through the board fence where I croned the gun. Some of the spent pellets in the trap have spread out the size of a dime. Not hard to figure out the difference in which one is the .25. I have no issue with the thumb hole and the safety. Only problem that I have being an RWS PERSON IS THE SAFETYS work the opposite. Push one in and pull the other out to take it off safety. One other thing that I had never tryed was to uncock the gun OR LETS SAY DECOMPRESS THE SPRING on the WFH like you can on some other guns such as the RWS. You can not do this on these guns so if you don't want to leave the gun cocked you wile have to discharge the gun. I would buy anther Hatsan or walther. I will buy me another .25 of some sort for sure. Have fun with your new HATSAN and be safe.

 Thanks for the review always glad to here  input on the hatsan

[Tarheel]

Hi Dave, just received a pdf file-invoice from moller for the piston, Soon as I here from Cris weather or not he wants his also, I will call to process the order
Mike

MUWAHAHAHAHA ! ! !

Sorry . . . LOL !

Dave

[Mike 4888blues]

I hope that's the way we feel after we complete the project lol 

[Mike 4888blues]

White fang , I sent you a P M
Mike

[Tarheel]

I hope that's the way we feel after we complete the project lol 

Mike,

You should have learned by now that no project is ever really "completed" and it usually generates "new" ones along the way . . . LOL !

Dave

[Mike 4888blues]

I hope that's the way we feel after we complete the project lol 

Mike,

You should have learned by now that no project is ever really "completed" and it usually generates "new" ones along the way . . . LOL !

Dave

I know I think we love  are projects  lol
White fang should be in touch with you , I told him talk to you about  the ram we are going with
I am just following you, and magnum116  is good enough for me, you Technical guys

[WHITEFANG]

This has  nothing to do with the guns but I have noticed much more irregular pellets in the .25 ammo.

[Tarheel]

This has  nothing to do with the guns but I have noticed much more irregular pellets in the .25 ammo.

That may just be due to the particular manufacturer . . . What make and model of .25 caliber pellets are you using ?

Dave

[microsalmo]

thanks for that cool review. I have 12 types of .25 pellets now, and they all look real good. They came from PA and AGD.

[Paul68]

"In shooting they both have the same twang sound."

Fang, are you saying that a spring powered Hatsan, and a Gas Piston WFH, both have spring twang?

[WHITEFANG]

To me they sound the same. TWANGGGGGGG. As to the pellet brands there were several. Mainly in the skirts and the way the center of the skirts are not being centered. Could be that this being a much larger pellet you can see more of the detail vs smaller cal.

[Magman116]

I notice, with both my Hatsan made rifles with the SAS, they have the same strange twang sound that is different than other springers I has shot.  It might be the SAS making the twang and not the spring.

[Bob P]

Good info! The WFH will be my next purchase.. How about some velocity strings guys?

[Mike 4888blues]

Good info! The WFH will be my next purchase.. How about some velocity strings guys?

 you will love the wfh bob  it is  awesome, i will send you  two longer trigger screws  when I return  your items  with instructions for adjusting  the new trigger screws  you are going to love  it/ my wfh cronied at 958 fps in .22 when I checked it after i received it.
Mike

[WHITEFANG]

Those are good #'s depending on the pellet. Mine is in the mid 9's and High 8's still depending on the pellet. The walther is tough. Bringing my back to life after by barrel mishap. A weld repair and chop job and gun shoots as good as it did. You can buy a talon with the nitro for $299.99. Same gun as the Hatsan 125 and WFH. They throw in the TWANG for free.

[Mike 4888blues]

Those are good #'s depending on the pellet. Mine is in the mid 9's and High 8's still depending on the pellet. The walther is tough. Bringing my back to life after by barrel mishap. A weld repair and chop job and gun shoots as good as it did. You can buy a talon with the nitro for $299.99. Same gun as the Hatsan 125 and WFH. They throw in the TWANG for free.

  whats the nito piston on them  like  what are  the actual fps in a .22

[WHITEFANG]

Right around 915 with the poly mag