Small springer

[Tom @ Buzzard Bluff]

 Mike posted early this AM that he's running a special on deburred and lubed B-12s this week for $75 delivered.

<http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php/topic,28032.0/topicseen.html>

 It would be a mistake to pass this up if you want a light springer for any purpose!   Tom

[grumpy]

&^^&, Your making this very hard for me  to pass up on one !

Mike posted early this AM that he's running a special on deburred and lubed B-12s this week for $75 delivered.

<http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php/topic,28032.0/topicseen.html>

 It would be a mistake to pass this up if you want a light springer for any purpose!   Tom

[warwolfmk2]

Just talked to him not 10 minutes ago very nice to talk to. I will definitely be ordering one this payday.

[PakProtector]

hey-Hey!!!,
Thank y'all very much for an interesting discussion. Spoke to Mike and will be taking one of his tuned XS12's in .177. That price tag is just too sweet....that's Red Ryder territory with performance waaaaay out front. Now I have to buy two sizes ov pellets...
cheers,
Douglas

[bradyman1]

Jason
Would you measure the Length of Pull of your B16 for me.
I have a note that the Ruger Explorer has a 11-7/8" LoP, which seems quite short, but would be just right for a junior rifle.
I want to update my junior rifle chart with the correct LoP.

thanks

The lop on my b16 is 13.5".

Glad to hear you decided on a rifle from Mike. He is a great guy. You are gonna love it.

[condor22]

https://www.pyramydair.com/product/diana-rws-schutze?m=1500  https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2008/03/rws-diana-schutze-part-1-new-youth-breakbarrel-rifle/ http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/rws.html http://www.airgundepot.com/rws-sch-tze-177-air-rifle.html



RWS Shutze in 177 for $175.oo at Airguns of Arizona, looks like a winner to me. With only 19 pounds cocking effort required, for 580 fps mv advertised~

[grumpy]

I really wanted to recommend the Shutze but could not. I purchased two of them from Pyramyd for my kids and both had defective triggers. I even had one of them replaced, that made 3 that were bad. That was strike 3 for me.

https://www.pyramydair.com/product/diana-rws-schutze?m=1500  https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2008/03/rws-diana-schutze-part-1-new-youth-breakbarrel-rifle/ http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/rws.html http://www.airgundepot.com/rws-sch-tze-177-air-rifle.html



RWS Shutze in 177 for $175.oo at Airguns of Arizona, looks like a winner to me. With only 19 pounds cocking effort required, for 580 fps mv advertised~

[ac12]

Doug
Who will be shortening the stock?
The data that I have says the XS-B12 has a 14" LoP.  That's is not a junior rifle, it is an adult size rifle.  It is too long for a kid not 5' tall.

[Raizer]

Doug
Who will be shortening the stock?
The data that I have says the XS-B12 has a 14" LoP.  That's is not a junior rifle, it is an adult size rifle.  It is too long for a kid not 5' tall.

XS-12 is shorter than the XS-B12

[PakProtector]

https://www.pyramydair.com/product/diana-rws-schutze?m=1500  https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2008/03/rws-diana-schutze-part-1-new-youth-breakbarrel-rifle/ http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/rws.html http://www.airgundepot.com/rws-sch-tze-177-air-rifle.html



RWS Shutze in 177 for $175.oo at Airguns of Arizona, looks like a winner to me. With only 19 pounds cocking effort required, for 580 fps mv advertised~

Actually one ov the things I considered was another D34. There is no butt plate so some careful carpentry would solve that issue and for cocking effort I figured somebody could come up with a lighter spring. At some point it could be re-powered... In any case, I fugured the XS12 with Mike's tune-to-serviceability on it for $75 delivered was gong to work fine. Ov course that puts me close to the old mountain bike situation where the bikes in the bed were worth more than the truck...the 'scope will be a significant fraction of the price of the rifle.
cheers,
Douglas

[huklbery]

The Mendoza peep fits great and aligns just right with the B12.

https://www.pyramydair.com/product/williams-diopter-sight?a=2003

https://picasaweb.google.com/105582855711747336970/2252012?authkey=Gv1sRgCPWk87nUn8TktAE#5713254655388315154

The replaceable recticle front globe off of a B28/RWS 350 fits on the front if you want something finer than the OEM true glow.  I do find for a 6 O'clock sight in, that the standard true glow works pretty darn good.

Mark

[ac12]

@Raizer
I was just on the Xixico site and the XS12 and the XS-B12 have the same dimensions, 40.5 inches long, only the velocity is different.  XS12 being the lower power version.
http://www.xisicousa.com/xs-b12.html
http://xisicousa.com/xs12.html

@Doug
That is similar to putting a $100 Gamo sight on a $80 Daisy 953.
You can start him off with red dot rather than a scope.  Since the red dot sight does not have any magnification, just use larger targets.  I use a red dot on my starter/trainer rifles.  Unless he likes using the scope.

[huklbery]

@Raizer
I was just on the Xixico site and the XS12 and the XS-B12 have the same dimensions, 40.5 inches long, only the velocity is different.  XS12 being the lower power version.
http://www.xisicousa.com/xs-b12.html
http://xisicousa.com/xs12.html

@Doug
That is similar to putting a $100 Gamo sight on a $80 Daisy 953.
You can start him off with red dot rather than a scope.  Since the red dot sight does not have any magnification, just use larger targets.  I use a red dot on my starter/trainer rifles.  Unless he likes using the scope.

I'm guessing, it looks like a simple spring change, though the stock is bobbed straight on the XS B12 (mine are angled like the XS12).  The fps I get with mine from MM coincide roughly with the 630/480 listed on the B12 with lighter pellets.  To be honest when Mike suggested the .22 I figured naw its to slow, but its actually fun to shoot.

Mark

[Raizer]

@Raizer
I was just on the Xixico site and the XS12 and the XS-B12 have the same dimensions, 40.5 inches long, only the velocity is different.  XS12 being the lower power version.
http://www.xisicousa.com/xs-b12.html
http://xisicousa.com/xs12.html

Site I read the other night said something like 36" for the XS12, I didn't think of checking the Xisco site 

[ac12]

@Raizer
Maybe there is a different model?