Model 34 in .177 vs .22

[Onebaddj]

I did alot of surching on red dots recently and couldnt find one i liked. Was really looking forward to one on my 2250 but the dots wernt clear, were to big or there was just something i didnt like. Try a store with alot of them on display like bass pro cabellas or cheaper than dirt stores. They will let you try them. The high end ones are nice but i wasnt paying more for a dot than i did the gun. Ended up with a bug buster 3-9 ao. Good luck on the red dot search and congrats on the new 34!

[lizzie]

Thanks! I did find one last week that I put on my target shooter Daisy, and it seems to be a pretty good one for the price (70 dollars). I may just take it off and try it on the 34 and see how it works.

[blind dog]

Thanks Jeff- I'm really enjoying shooting this new gun of mine.

I just bought the exactly same thing last week. Love it! My .22 model 34 chronos well over 700 fps and hits hard enough for pretty "large" small game/pests, and is really accurate.
Mine likes to be held for shooting...loosely, yes, but held rather than the pure artilliary hold while balancing on the center of gravity.
Crosman Premiers give ragged holes at 20 yars, and I'm no expert shot.

Congrats!

[stevemag]

the 34 may kill your red dot scope

[lizzie]

Thanks alot for that info about the hold. I'll definitely check it out to see if there's a difference.

[lizzie]

the 34 may kill your red dot scope

Hmmm, well, that's definitely good to know. Nevmind on the idea of taking it off my Daisy, lol.

[stevemag]

i never found one i liked rated for springers, i dont even remember now if i even found one rated for springers

[lizzie]

Wow Steve- hadn't really even thought about that. Back to the drawing board, lol.
I'd love to just shoot with open sights, but my oldish eyes just don't compensate well. I have the choice of seeing the sights clearly with my reading glasses, or seeing the target clearly without them.

[RedFeather]

Used to have an old issue of Rifle with a picture of the "correct" iron sight picture.  Target (a rhino, if I recall) and rear sight were blurred with the front sight sharp.  Unless you're a teenager, it's near impossible to have all three clear.  Eyes just don't adjust that quickly any longer.  Besides, it's a great excuse.

I like .22's because they can be easier to handle/load in a lot of guns, too.

[stevemag]

i have he same problem

[tjk]

The 34 is the best rifle Diana makes as far as I'm concerned. I have both 17 and 22 and i much prefer the 22. Great power to caliber combination. I limit my shooting  to the fourty to fifty yard range, but the Diana 34 in .22 can easily reach out further with no difficulty. And is strong enough for both feather and fur at +50 yards as well.

[Tom @ Buzzard Bluff]

Lizzie said:

"I'd love to just shoot with open sights, but my oldish eyes just don't compensate well. I have the choice of seeing the sights clearly with my reading glasses, or seeing the target clearly without them."

 While that is true in the case of an open rear sight even my 72 year old eyes can resolve a sight picture with the use of an aperture sight.
 Remember your Jr. Hi science class that demonstrated that an aperture acts as a lens? That's why a functional camera can be made that will take pretty sharp pics using only an aperture in place of a ground lens.

 If you haven't yet tried a GOOD set of aperture sights check @ your area to see who has a good old German 10 meter rifle that they will be more than eager for to to take for a test drive.

 Frankly since I consider that 35 yards is stretching practical airgun hunting distance (predominantly because of the shooters ability to place a pellet into the 1/2" - 1" kill zone without fail) I consider the peep or aperture sight the ideal airgun sighting method. Unlike scopes they don't fall apart from recoil or get out of adjustment simply because of the phase of the moon around Uranus. Once set they stay there!

 But I'm only speaking from over 65 years of experience.        Tom

[stevemag]

i put a set of peep sights on my ruger 10/22 and i like them. that is to say ,,,i can use them.

[Calmark]

I'm not all that old...yet, but I prefer shooting with scopes.  I shot with one for the "first" time around a year ago, and WOW, it was like I was cheating.  I'd always just shot open sights on pellet guns and .22 lrs as a kid, and a scope really brought things in close.  I do want to try a red dot some time though, just to see if its "point and shoot" like I imagine it to be.

As for caliber, I have a .22 model 34 and it was my first non-.177 caliber.  I was really impressed with the HUGE pellet size and the size of the holes they made.     Also, I really like how easy they were to pick up and load.  If you don't yet have a .22 cal. airgun, get a 34 in that caliber.  It shoots the larger pellet just fine and is plenty accurate.

[stevemag]

i shoot almost always off hand and i find it hard getting used to my new scoped gun. a non magnifying red dot seems like the perfect solution to me

[lizzie]

I do want to try a red dot some time though, just to see if its "point and shoot" like I imagine it to be.

Yes, it is point and shoot. I put one on my Daisy target rifle, because I don't like a scope when shooting off hand (standing). The movement in the scope picture is a pita imo. I was a little skeptical of the red dot, and didn't think it really would be "point and shoot", but I sat at the bench with the Daisy, and it truly is.

[Bobbo]

Sometime, Google some pictures of the firing line at the NRA Conventional Pistol National Championships held at Camp Perry, Ohio every July. If you look, over 99% of the shooters on the line are using red dot scopes. If they weren't effective, they wouldn't be on THAT firing line. That is the most competitive venue I have ever shot in, and the shooters buy every advantage they can.

On edit, here is a photo I took in 2006 of some of the Master shooters (there is only 1 higher ranking) on the firing line. If you look closely, the 2 Marines both have red dot scopes on their pistols. The white haired lady, Joan, in the center who is shooting iron sights is 70+ years old and "too old to change" in her words.

[stevemag]

Sometime, Google some pictures of the firing line at the NRA Conventional Pistol National Championships held at Camp Perry, Ohio every July. If you look, over 99% of the shooters on the line are using red dot scopes. If they weren't effective, they wouldn't be on THAT firing line. That is the most competitive venue I have ever shot in, and the shooters buy every advantage they can.

On edit, here is a photo I took in 2006 of some of the Master shooters (there is only 1 higher ranking) on the firing line. If you look closely, the 2 Marines both have red dot scopes on their pistols. The white haired lady, Joan, in the center who is shooting iron sights is 70+ years old and "too old to change" in her words.

yes, BUT is there a 3moa red dot that will stand up to a springer?

[Bobbo]

Airgun rated red dot scopes. I haven't checked the dot sizes though.

http://www.straightshooters.com/red-dot-scopes.html

https://www.pyramydair.com/accessories/dot-sights/red-dots

[lizzie]

Thanks for that link Bobbo.