Author Topic: P-Rifle on the way (Read 7519 times))

splitbeing · « **Reply #140 on:** March 25, 2025, 09:47:49 AM »

Quote from: avator on March 25, 2025, 06:13:48 AM

Not to be mean or nothing but, wouldn't it be fun to make the NUAH club with one of these $200 guns? I bet that wouldn't set well with the big spenders.

You read my mind, Bill! I literally fell asleep thinking about the barrel bandit making nuah on my buddy's range where I did it with the .177 Akela and nsa slugs.

So far the baracuda hunters are my most accurate pellet. Not sure they'll hold up at 100, but I haven't done 100 yard shooting in 22. My head isa all .177. Anyhoo, got me wondering about what nsa slugs might fit well in the p-rfile or p-force barrels generally.

splitbeing · « **Reply #141 on:** March 25, 2025, 09:50:34 AM »

Quote from: Mithli on March 24, 2025, 11:01:28 PM

Continuing to get a low 1st shot per fill, but have now also run Norma 17.6gr and CPHP 14.3s. Looks like 57 or so shots on the reg today with CPHP, and 81 shots got me from 250 to 75 bar, full span of the green. 60 shots of Norma got me to 100-110bar range.

I plinked with shots 51-81 today, hitting bell at about 45-50 yards consistently, as well as can bottoms, despite 10mph+ winds. I used the same zero at 50 as 25. Also no issue hitting 3in swinging target at 25 yards during that time.

Awesome, Terry!

If your rifle is like mine, I suspect that a couple turns CCW on the hammer adjuster will get you levelled out to around 50 shots with an ES under 30 fps or maybe even under 20.

splitbeing · « **Reply #142 on:** March 27, 2025, 03:36:42 AM »

Well, it's not just me. This fella also found the baracuda hunters to do the trick in the p-rifle.

aluminumfetish · « **Reply #143 on:** March 27, 2025, 01:30:39 PM »

There are several Pinty threads already so I figured I ask here instead of starting another. Can somebody with the Pinty bullpup measure and report the actual length of pull ? I wanted the P15 for a spell, and this seems to be dang close to it for a very reasonable price.

Thanks,
Mitch

Papa T · « **Reply #144 on:** March 28, 2025, 06:05:58 PM »

Quote from: splitbeing on March 27, 2025, 03:36:42 AM

Well, it's not just me. This fella also found the baracuda hunters to do the trick in the p-rifle.

After watching his part one and 2, I don't think the groups were better than Norma 17.6gr or jts 18.1s. And, all looked as good or worse than my 10 shot group averages. I guess next I need to do full pellet run (of what I have) in 5 shot groups with a couple leaders in between each. I will see if I can get that done this weekend.

Yesterday I did another run of the JTS 18.1gr. Chrono had an unknown issue and measured only 5 of the 91 shots I took, but grouping and being able to hit targets at 25-50 yards seemed unphased all the way down. I expect that I lost reg around shot 47 as usual. But I didn't drop below 75 bar green band until somewhere between shots 80 and 90. Put 68 shots on paper (2 put into can because paper blew off) and last 21 on bell and ATFLBox 5-in-1. All 21 as ringers without holdover. Groups a little worse than original 18.1 shoot, but I think the scope is also a contributing factor to my groups as no parallax adjustment leads to rough sighting at 25.

Still no adjustments to rifle, other than installing a moderator. Probably around 400+ shots through the P-Rifle thus far, almost all of my jts 18.1s seem to have flown away. 🫣😂

splitbeing · « **Reply #145 on:** March 28, 2025, 09:05:48 PM »

I love learning about the rifle with all the info in the pic! Thanks, Terry!

How'd the 50 yd targets look?

Papa T · « **Reply #146 on:** March 29, 2025, 01:34:57 PM »

Quote from: splitbeing on March 28, 2025, 09:05:48 PM

I love learning about the rifle with all the info in the pic! Thanks, Terry!

How'd the 50 yd targets look?

The 50 yds was just the bell. Was fun watching the pellets come in for landing on the scope. I will drop a pic of what layout looks like. My "50" is also probably about 45. I need to actually measure it and keep forgetting.

After I do full line of pellets at 25, I can look at taking top 3-5 and doing 50 yards.

Papa T · « **Reply #147 on:** March 30, 2025, 03:48:13 PM »

11 different pellets, 82°F temps with 15mph tailwind, 25 yards rested. 5 shot groups with 2 pellets fired off-target every swap to "condition". Also fired 2 shots after each fill, before target work, to account for low fps issues I've been seeing. Some surprises in the groups, still with the pinty scope that doesn't have ao adjustment. (Forgot to post this yesterday.)

splitbeing · « **Reply #148 on:** March 31, 2025, 09:23:23 AM »

Interesting! Seemed to like the terminators and the meisterkugelns if I'm reading the chart right. Inside 30, those would be devastating on small game and punch paper well. I'd say neither will make it out to 50, but I have also had some weird experiences with the terminators where ithey were shot fast and grouped well at 40+.

Are the first group in the upper left JTS's? What's the weight?

Papa T · « **Reply #149 on:** April 02, 2025, 04:30:28 PM »

Quote from: splitbeing on March 31, 2025, 09:23:23 AM

Interesting! Seemed to like the terminators and the meisterkugelns if I'm reading the chart right. Inside 30, those would be devastating on small game and punch paper well. I'd say neither will make it out to 50, but I have also had some weird experiences with the terminators where ithey were shot fast and grouped well at 40+.

Are the first group in the upper left JTS's? What's the weight?

JTS 18.1s were first group, 16.08gr 2nd group. I suppose it would have been good for me to clean up labels for groups and their data...
Here is the video from me doing the testing:

Papa T · « **Reply #150 on:** April 03, 2025, 09:34:14 PM »

I don't know what interest there may be, but I was asked to test a barrel band design for P-Rifle. I believe it will have a pic rail bottom so that can bipod or whatever accessory you decide. The test units are supposed to mail out to me tomorrow, I will share results and pics here when it gets in. I'm still not 100% on the thought of pic rail and bipod for the rifle, but at least it would be far enough forward to not change the feel of off-hand. I would love to hear thoughts from others on pic or no pic, as well as barrel band in general.

Also, if anyone wants to double check my numbers, I got 18mm shroud, 32mm air tube, and 4 or 5mm gap between (based on 54/55mm total length from top of shroud to bottom of tube). Hope all are safe and enjoying their rifles.

splitbeing · « **Reply #151 on:** April 04, 2025, 05:14:22 AM »

Awesome data, Terry! These pinty's are getting some video attention now!

Not sure how necessary a barrel band is with the ahroud on, but with the shroud off on my mine it is a must. If folks want pic rail, why not? There is a lot of space forward of the stock.

I've been debating sling studs in a similar way. Not sure yet if a spot can be secured that doesn't interfere with offhand or rested shooting.

billygee · « **Reply #152 on:** April 04, 2025, 05:32:11 PM »

kinda interesting from being a powder burner, where we would use bedding to float the barrel

where here we look to band a pcp barrel.

(work in progress on a different shroud)

On another note:

anyone find another way to degas the the P-Rifle Carbine, other then just dry firing till empty ?

splitbeing · « **Reply #153 on:** April 04, 2025, 08:02:12 PM »

Sorry, Bill. Havem't tried. I didn't notice any degassing tool or port, but I've only removed the stock a few times. The hammer adjustment is very user friendly with stock on and the tube is so far beyond the barrel that is good for banding. Do you plan on banding the custom shroud? Hopefully won't need it. What material and any kind of baffling?

Your post reminds me of the bedding that folks have explored here with springers.

We stay away from PB discussion as a rule.

billygee · « **Reply #154 on:** April 04, 2025, 08:54:38 PM »

Quote from: splitbeing on April 04, 2025, 08:02:12 PM

Sorry, Bill. Havem't tried. I didn't notice any degassing tool or port, but I've only removed the stock a few times. The hammer adjustment is very user friendly with stock on and the tube is so far beyond the barrel that is good for banding. Do you plan on banding the custom shroud? Hopefully won't need it. What material and any kind of baffling?

Your post reminds me of the bedding that folks have explored here with springers.

We stay away from PB discussion as a rule.

I do have the stock removed which revels the lug that the stock bolts onto,
which wasn't sure if there may have an air bleed feature

As far as the shroud, hopefully there will be no need for banding

Having a few hurtles on the mod, but attempting to make it DIY friendly

Bill

splitbeing · « **Reply #155 on:** April 05, 2025, 10:34:00 AM »

Paying attention to the forend of the stock while finding my way around the hilds off hand as well as rested, debating whether a sling stud would interfere at all. I like James' scabbard idea, but with the shroud off and a moderator on, I'm wary to put it muzzle first in a scabbard even with the barrel band.

Papa T · « **Reply #156 on:** April 05, 2025, 11:18:25 AM »

Quote from: splitbeing on April 04, 2025, 05:14:22 AM

Awesome data, Terry! These pinty's are getting some video attention now!

Not sure how necessary a barrel band is with the ahroud on, but with the shroud off on my mine it is a must. If folks want pic rail, why not? There is a lot of space forward of the stock.

I've been debating sling studs in a similar way. Not sure yet if a spot can be secured that doesn't interfere with offhand or rested shooting.

With the shroud there is some flex still, so I am curious to see if it will tighten up groups a little more for me (already best groups in 22 for this poor shooting Papa). As for the sling stud, I was thinking about that with the barrel band as well. Depending on how things look with the barrel band installed, I may reach out about sling stud instead of pic rail option. Can still attach a bipod if it's your thing, but would help setup for sling in a perfect hunting rifle.

splitbeing · « **Reply #157 on:** April 05, 2025, 05:28:55 PM »

That makes alot of sense! Barrelband with sling stud.

Papa T · « **Reply #158 on:** April 05, 2025, 11:47:24 PM »

Quote from: splitbeing on April 05, 2025, 05:28:55 PM

That makes alot of sense! Barrelband with sling stud.

I just wish I'd thought it sooner, so it could have been what's on the way. Now I'll wait and see how things play.

Nukall856 · « **Reply #159 on:** April 06, 2025, 04:34:29 PM »

Hey man,

Yesterday I sent an email to airgunmods dotcom to ask if they are able to make barrelband for the P-Rifle. I am still waiting on a reply. I may have missed it, but has anyone figured out a barrel band that will fit?
I have found a way to join in on this fun, but. I need to take action to have one of these in my possession. And I might have to soon as there are not many left in stock. I might need a little push over the edge,.,. Anyone willing to assist with some words of encouragement mixed with a healthy dose of airgun enabling. Thankyou.
Yesterday after going through my Airguns I found 2 that I am willing to part with. I need room before I can add more to what I have.

NVak

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