Anyone else order a 100th Anniversary Legacy 1000?

[Ronno6]

Bad enough that the 2100 is now china made, but almost ALL U.S. made parts were tossed by Crosman......just thrown away !!
Even valve stems........gone!
And the chinese made parts were not yet available whence last I checked.
Soooooooooooooo,
Forget the idea of purchasing new 2100 metal receivers to retro onto your Legacy.......

[K.O.]

No Marauder, Maximus, or 13xx, or 362 valve stems that you can make work..? 

was able to order trail baffles and the 7/16 slip on 1/2 unf barrel adapters today...  I asked about the 2100b clam shells and they indeed are not available... So being as they are still being made (but outsourced) and one of their big sellers... Randy at customer service said he would try to find out if that is just temporary or what the future situation will be and will get back to me...

Hard to imagine them not carrying the parts for a in production rifle... so I hope it is a temporary situation....

also said that could try Baker air guns and such their stock might have been sold to them... can watch for used also...

Still no .177 7/16 barrels in stock... they do hope to have the 367, 3622 and 3677 out this year... and yes am sad that the 2100 is outsourced now... that is what happens when they have to compete with non-supported no customer support cheaper products among other issues...

my Big Issue is... What they advertised is not what you get... that is just unacceptable to me...

[Ronno6]

The valve stem for the Crosman 66 is almost the same......the shaft is a tad too long.
Easier to make shorter than longer,  I guess...... Thank you, Dremel....

I'm pretty sure that JGAirguns.biz will have the 2100 receiver halves...... (a check shows only 1 set in stock!)

The oriental made parts are SUPPOSED to be drop in replacements for the original US made parts, but no word on when they will be available.
I still cannot wrap my mind around them just throwing away all those parts.......... Where is the sense in that??

[K.O.]

well, I can not help but still like what Crosman has got decently right for the last hundred years... but the springers should have been branded Colman or sum'thin else..

Crosman branding should have stayed just pumpers (that incudes PCPs) and co²... 
Same with Benji and Sheridan...
The Benji/Stirling they got right enough to be an exception..?
the 2260MB; well at the Least it should have been a 2060 MB.. If it carries the Sheridan name it need be a .20 cal..

 could not have been easy to balance price point, parts availability, customer service and such all these years... They have put out air rifles that respond well to very well to Blueprinting/tuning... despite the decline of U.S steel and Alcoa..

 Honestly well I think as long as you use a scope to hold the plastic clam shell tight it should not flex a lot... and if not is upgradable to the 2100 clamshell...now that they reduced the price well it may be worth tuning...

but could have been something to be as sought after as the first gen 2200 magnum..   https://www.bakerairguns.com/product/crosman-2200-magnum/

Crosman did not make me a Daisy fan...Orin Ribar did..

 I guess that was why 100 dollars for the 50th anniversary 880 from the Diasy Musem seems worth it... even though it is just a plaque on the stock and certificate that make it one (#257) of a run of 500...

in 2014 or so he took the time to confirm my Daisy 953 and another member owned 953 was from 1985 and the proceeds from their sale helped support the US shooting Team...just made me feel like supporting the Daisy Museum as a tribute to him and his knowledge...The Daisy historian...

The serial # and an honest 700+ fps with 7.9g pellet was Icing on the cake... been made in China for a while tho..

oh here is a rare-ish Daisy to watch out for.. the R stamped Model 179... http://forum.daisymuseum.com/orin-ribar-and-the-daisy-model-179_topic10301.html

The only Daisys I owned were red ryders and a model 25 until I was 50 years old. I've always been a Crosman man, but the 2 362's I got had junk  barrels and the 2240 I just got has a plastic receiver that is canted to the side. Crosman ain't what it used to be.

Hi ED well they have had some Q.C. issue here and there for a good while... but the customer service usually made things right... they did on my .22 Icon recently that had a barrel issue that I did not want to fix...

My first 2100b was from a batch that came with to long of a sight screw that caused the barrel to bow inside the sleeve... cut screw down and added some stabilizers and it went from a shotgun to very accurate... could have sent it back but well I did not mind because I had planned on blueprinting/tunning it a bit anyways..

My first Maximus was about 80$ from wally world... chamber was very slightly miscut... could have sent it back but almost all of the Crosman 7/16 barrels benefit from a bit of tuning... the rifling at the breech end is just hard edged and can cut fins into the skirt of the pellet... sometimes there is a burr at the transfer port... For a while some .22 barrels were coming with damaged rifling at the muzzle... they also at the time seemed to vary a bit at groove depth...  Many with some work shot very well... My .25 Marauders and their Greem Mountain Barrels shot just about everything very well but shot gunned the Benji Domed a bit... Did some leade work taking down the hard-edged rifling... now the Benji domed are tied for a close second to the JSB Kings with a few other pellets... 

The breech cocked to the side seems to have been an occasional prob that crops up here and there for a good while now... I have been lucky not one of my fleet of 13xx or the 2240 I picked up recently for my daughter have had that prob... it probably is a mis drilled/punched tube...would just return for exchange...

So I think of most of my lower cost Crosman's as tuner rifles/pistols... I do love to tinker so is not a big prob for me..

My 362 100 anniversary is very accurate withe JSB 15g... and does well with many pellets...

 my other three 362s well one has a 26" .177 Maximus barrel that needs the movable barrel weight I put on it...that long skinny 7/16-barrel needs help with harmonics especially with the heavy pellets...will in the future sleeve the barrel with .5" brass tube...
Just yesterday I finally got some of the 10g KO to test in it and other rifles... I hogged out the valve to hold .13 ci or so... It is a nasty little .177 pumper at 10 and 11 pumps now..  

really happy small bore slug selection took off... was what I was hoping for back when we first talked..  

Both my .22 362s benefitted from loosening the barrel band grub then pumping 8 times then retightening... one it made a lot of difference the other was more accurate and has a 24" 2260 barrel it... it improved just a bit... both .22s are dependably about .6" at 30 yards or so... 

I think one person said that he put a couple of the old 13xx barrel spacers on his and it improved accuracy... I do think the long pump tube with the skinny 7/16 barrels on some 362s may need the help...

Me of course I just want to sleeve the barrels to .5" with brass tubing..   could just experiment with a few tight shims between barrel and pump tube..?

Did my daughters 2240 with .5 aluminum tube when I put the steel breech and 18" .177 barrel on it (tops out at ~8fpe now)... bored two barrel bands to .5" for it also...

but then again, I can also understand just not wanting to mess with tinkering..

[EdinGa]

I converted one of mine to .25 which was my intention from the start. That solved the accuracy issues with it. I finally found a pellet the other one liked well enough to be acceptable and gave it to my son.

My 2240 is plenty accurate after a little trigger work, but it bugs me that the breech is canted. I'll probably install a metal one eventually.

[K.O.]

The valve stem for the Crosman 66 is almost the same......the shaft is a tad too long.
Easier to make shorter than longer,  I guess...... Thank you, Dremel....

I'm pretty sure that JGAirguns.biz will have the 2100 receiver halves...... (a check shows only 1 set in stock!)

The oriental made parts are SUPPOSED to be drop in replacements for the original US made parts, but no word on when they will be available.
I still cannot wrap my mind around them just throwing away all those parts.......... Where is the sense in that??

well on a few of my 13xx I set them up with the Marauder poppets instead of thinning the poppet shaft... the skinny .125" diameter Mrod shaft improves air flow... have to sleeve the back of the valve with K&S brass tube to use them...

[K.O.]

I converted one of mine to .25 which was my intention from the start. That solved the accuracy issues with it. I finally found a pellet the other one liked well enough to be acceptable and gave it to my son.

My 2240 is plenty accurate after a little trigger work, but it bugs me that the breech is canted. I'll probably install a metal one eventually.

forgot... congrats on about the about 1.5 moa at 100 yards with the 10g KO and your pup...at 10g it is still a bit of a feather in the wind so is a little surprising they do that well...I would be happy with just getting near 1.5 moa at 50 yards...

[EdinGa]

I converted one of mine to .25 which was my intention from the start. That solved the accuracy issues with it. I finally found a pellet the other one liked well enough to be acceptable and gave it to my son.

My 2240 is plenty accurate after a little trigger work, but it bugs me that the breech is canted. I'll probably install a metal one eventually.

forgot... congrats on about the about 1.5 moa at 100 yards with the 10g KO and your pup...at 10g it is still a bit of a feather in the wind so is a little surprising they do that well...I would be happy with just getting near 1.5 moa at 50 yards...

Thanks, Kirby. Wind isn't much of a factor now that I've moved my shooting lane further back in the woods. I've managed to get the bullpup down to moa at 100 on my steel gong. I'll be back out there trying to do it on an official target as soon as it cools down some. I was watching Riddick shoot his Chaser at 100 yards on the Off The Shelf Airguns channel so I decided to try that too. I pulled off a 1.5 moa group with the one I converted to hpa shooting 10.03 Knockouts at 8 fpe. I don't know how well these little slugs handle wind, but they sure fly straight when it's calm.

[BerkshireHunter]

I deburred/ chamfered the piston cutout on the compression tube and it seems a lot smoother now. Crazy to me they don’t just add the bushing on all aluminum pistons.

[avator]

Just seems to me that a commemorative airgun should be something special. Not a singing fish wall plaque.   

[bantam5s]

Just seems to me that a commemorative airgun should be something special. Not a singing fish wall plaque.   

I'll take the Gemmy big mouth Billy bass every day of the week over this thing.

[avator]

Just seems to me that a commemorative airgun should be something special. Not a singing fish wall plaque.   

I'll take the Gemmy big mouth Billy bass every day of the week over this thing.

Yeah, I would also buy the singing fish fully aware of what of what I was getting. There was one in the old bar when we moved here. I don't know if it worked. I never tried to put batteries in it.

[bantam5s]

Just seems to me that a commemorative airgun should be something special. Not a singing fish wall plaque.   

I'll take the Gemmy big mouth Billy bass every day of the week over this thing.

Yeah, I would also buy the singing fish fully aware of what of what I was getting. There was one in the old bar when we moved here. I don't know if it worked. I never tried to put batteries in it.

I had the bass and the Cool Catfish that I eventually threw away.
I remember a time when you couldn't give them away, but now they can fetch some real change because there are collectors and apparently the good examples are very desirable since they never held up very well.

I recently learned that Gemmy made a hank William's Jr that sings Born to Boogy and Family Tradition ( I saw the Gemmy James brown when I was a kid but never the Bocephus ), went on Ebay looking for one and good examples guaranteed to work perfectly can fetch a much as $150.
I love Hank Jr but I'm not spending that much on a toy.
Same goes for the Rodney Dangerfield they made in the series.

[splitbeing]

x3 on singing wall fish

[Back_Roads]

  I placed my Wall Fish out on a rock next to my pond, it was fun while it lasted LOL

[lillysdad621]

besides not being happy because the gun poorly commemorates an anniversary, has anyone actually shot it to see if its a decent shooter? because the legacies seem to be decent guns, so if you consider this a "pretty" legacy then it may be worth it. I got all the rest of the models from the 766 on, so i need one to complete my wall display. But make no mistake, all of them are shooters, and good ones at that.

 in my eyes, its a 65$ pretty pumper... so yeah, i'll order one. (unless someone is letting theirs go here...)lol

PS: man, pyramyd has them for 54$... that is a deal, cheaper than walmart with the blacked out legacy..

[Ronno6]

In general, the Legacy 1000 is a great shooter.
It is a 2100 w/plastic receivers and a solid aluminum pump rod (the souece of its increased power.)
Basically doing as Daisy did with the 880 back in the early 90's.
The other internals are the same as the 2100.

The original Legacy 1000 pump rod lacked the delrin sleeve bearing at the linkage end.
This allowed aluminum/steel sliding contact that I do not like.
The 362 uses the same rod, but with a narrow sleeve bering at that end, ending that wear.

[mav72]

Back again.

I feel that the Legacy 1000 Commemorative should have had a metal receiver and came in 22.

I’m pretty sure the commemorative legacy’s are gonna become scarce like the plastic silver receiver 760s. All those receivers are going to crack with repeated use.

I had actually forgotten that this year is Crosman’s 100th anniversary until Black Friday. When I saw the 362, I was thinking it was too rich for me, so I wasn’t going to buy one.  My younger brother knew I was heavily into air guns and he had other ideas. It would be awkward showing gun fearing extended family members. So, he told me to open it as soon as it was delivered. Happy camper! 

The gun is staying how it is. I haven’t really gotten to shoot it yet.  I’m not gonna mess with it like my other  “projects”.

An observation and question though...  That Williams rear sight looks really high. 

Are the sight adjustments ok on it or do you run out of “elevation”? Or do you just shoot from really far away?