QuoteQuote from: PelletSport on July 09, 2023, 03:56:10 AMQuote from: LOKEY on July 07, 2023, 10:20:54 PMAlthough rare, springer sears can fail and snap the barrel shut with devastating force. There are legitimate accounts of fingers/thumbs getting smashed off as the breech snaps shut, head/face injures from the barrel flying back, and worst of all, favorite springers being ruined, ha ha. This is the reason most budget springers have heavy trigger return springs and lots of trigger creep (overlap in the sears), to prevent accidental release of the spring.I have had it happen numerous times because I like to experiment with making budget springer triggers way too light, but since I always have a a firm grip on the barrel and the stock secured safely against my body, me and my springers are injury free.I don't think I have to worry about that with this rifle. There is no way for your finger to get slammed by it.I still cannot find the "crosman b19 roller bearing mod gateway to airguns'. I find threads talking about the B19 but I am not quite sure about it. Is this it?https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=62099.0I couldn't find it either.Try YouTube My Airgun Reviews video: 'How to fix a crosman trigger, do's and don'ts'.It is very good.Bear-trap injuries are rare, but the damage can be significant. When it happens it is lightning fast. Think of a mousetrap than can turn your finger/thumb into mashed potatoes or simply sever a digit before you realize it even happened. ALWAYS hold the barrel with one hand while loading... ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE MAKING TRIGGER ADJUSTMENTS!WARNING - GRAPHIC IMAGEShttps://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=197754.msg156305710#msg156305710
Quote from: PelletSport on July 09, 2023, 03:56:10 AMQuote from: LOKEY on July 07, 2023, 10:20:54 PMAlthough rare, springer sears can fail and snap the barrel shut with devastating force. There are legitimate accounts of fingers/thumbs getting smashed off as the breech snaps shut, head/face injures from the barrel flying back, and worst of all, favorite springers being ruined, ha ha. This is the reason most budget springers have heavy trigger return springs and lots of trigger creep (overlap in the sears), to prevent accidental release of the spring.I have had it happen numerous times because I like to experiment with making budget springer triggers way too light, but since I always have a a firm grip on the barrel and the stock secured safely against my body, me and my springers are injury free.I don't think I have to worry about that with this rifle. There is no way for your finger to get slammed by it.I still cannot find the "crosman b19 roller bearing mod gateway to airguns'. I find threads talking about the B19 but I am not quite sure about it. Is this it?https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=62099.0I couldn't find it either.Try YouTube My Airgun Reviews video: 'How to fix a crosman trigger, do's and don'ts'.It is very good.
Quote from: LOKEY on July 07, 2023, 10:20:54 PMAlthough rare, springer sears can fail and snap the barrel shut with devastating force. There are legitimate accounts of fingers/thumbs getting smashed off as the breech snaps shut, head/face injures from the barrel flying back, and worst of all, favorite springers being ruined, ha ha. This is the reason most budget springers have heavy trigger return springs and lots of trigger creep (overlap in the sears), to prevent accidental release of the spring.I have had it happen numerous times because I like to experiment with making budget springer triggers way too light, but since I always have a a firm grip on the barrel and the stock secured safely against my body, me and my springers are injury free.I don't think I have to worry about that with this rifle. There is no way for your finger to get slammed by it.I still cannot find the "crosman b19 roller bearing mod gateway to airguns'. I find threads talking about the B19 but I am not quite sure about it. Is this it?https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=62099.0
Although rare, springer sears can fail and snap the barrel shut with devastating force. There are legitimate accounts of fingers/thumbs getting smashed off as the breech snaps shut, head/face injures from the barrel flying back, and worst of all, favorite springers being ruined, ha ha. This is the reason most budget springers have heavy trigger return springs and lots of trigger creep (overlap in the sears), to prevent accidental release of the spring.I have had it happen numerous times because I like to experiment with making budget springer triggers way too light, but since I always have a a firm grip on the barrel and the stock secured safely against my body, me and my springers are injury free.
Wow that's pretty bad. I immediately checked mine to see if the barrel swings shut when you pull the trigger like that stupid rifle is designed to do. Thank god it doesn't. Why would they make one of these do that? I would much rather be hit by a pellet or a blast of air than have my finger chopped off from a stupid design like that!!!!. That's just stupid period!! If I was Him I would have sued over that!
Quote from: LOKEY on July 09, 2023, 06:03:52 PMWow that's pretty bad. I immediately checked mine to see if the barrel swings shut when you pull the trigger like that stupid rifle is designed to do. Thank god it doesn't. Why would they make one of these do that? I would much rather be hit by a pellet or a blast of air than have my finger chopped off from a stupid design like that!!!!. That's just stupid period!! If I was Him I would have sued over that!Sorry, I'm not getting my point across. That trigger oops is a danger but you should understand many older break-barrrels behave that way. It's the users job to be careful but we are human, not robots, so sometimes we get a little too comfortable. A mistaken trigger pull is NOT THE ONLY DANGER.Trigger parts are holding very large forces and can fail unexpectedly. THAT is RARE but your digits will still be mashed/severed.When YOU are making trigger changes, like the proposed bearing mod or the longer adjustment screw, there is a MUCH HIGHER PROBABILITY of a surprise/unexpected trigger release. You should develop a consistent habit of NEVER letting go of the barrel during the cocking-loading sequence. For 99.9999% of the time you won't need to hold the barrel. It's that ONE TIME IN A MILLION you can't predict that will BITE you. Don't let it!
Quote from: mikeyb on July 10, 2023, 12:32:00 AMQuote from: LOKEY on July 09, 2023, 06:03:52 PMWow that's pretty bad. I immediately checked mine to see if the barrel swings shut when you pull the trigger like that stupid rifle is designed to do. Thank god it doesn't. Why would they make one of these do that? I would much rather be hit by a pellet or a blast of air than have my finger chopped off from a stupid design like that!!!!. That's just stupid period!! If I was Him I would have sued over that!Sorry, I'm not getting my point across. That trigger oops is a danger but you should understand many older break-barrrels behave that way. It's the users job to be careful but we are human, not robots, so sometimes we get a little too comfortable. A mistaken trigger pull is NOT THE ONLY DANGER.Trigger parts are holding very large forces and can fail unexpectedly. THAT is RARE but your digits will still be mashed/severed.When YOU are making trigger changes, like the proposed bearing mod or the longer adjustment screw, there is a MUCH HIGHER PROBABILITY of a surprise/unexpected trigger release. You should develop a consistent habit of NEVER letting go of the barrel during the cocking-loading sequence. For 99.9999% of the time you won't need to hold the barrel. It's that ONE TIME IN A MILLION you can't predict that will BITE you. Don't let it!Yes after seeing that post I agree. It's not worth the chance of losing a digit being stupid.
Quote from: LOKEY on July 10, 2023, 02:17:15 AMQuote from: mikeyb on July 10, 2023, 12:32:00 AMQuote from: LOKEY on July 09, 2023, 06:03:52 PMWow that's pretty bad. I immediately checked mine to see if the barrel swings shut when you pull the trigger like that stupid rifle is designed to do. Thank god it doesn't. Why would they make one of these do that? I would much rather be hit by a pellet or a blast of air than have my finger chopped off from a stupid design like that!!!!. That's just stupid period!! If I was Him I would have sued over that!Sorry, I'm not getting my point across. That trigger oops is a danger but you should understand many older break-barrrels behave that way. It's the users job to be careful but we are human, not robots, so sometimes we get a little too comfortable. A mistaken trigger pull is NOT THE ONLY DANGER.Trigger parts are holding very large forces and can fail unexpectedly. THAT is RARE but your digits will still be mashed/severed.When YOU are making trigger changes, like the proposed bearing mod or the longer adjustment screw, there is a MUCH HIGHER PROBABILITY of a surprise/unexpected trigger release. You should develop a consistent habit of NEVER letting go of the barrel during the cocking-loading sequence. For 99.9999% of the time you won't need to hold the barrel. It's that ONE TIME IN A MILLION you can't predict that will BITE you. Don't let it!Yes after seeing that post I agree. It's not worth the chance of losing a digit being stupid.I hope this doesn't put you off springers, but it really is something to consider if you are someone who absolutely needs all ten digits and an intact cranium.At the end of the day all springers are old, dangerous, stinky, industrial technology.I think that's why many choose to shoot pre charged gas rifles instead.I like the thrill and danger of compressing and hooking an industrial spring and then letting it go over and over again.I decided I could live with fewer digits and I'm fairly ambidextrous so I can go lefty if need be, ha ha.