JSB .22 Beast pellets in need of a rifle - Eagle Claw?

[JustSomeGuy]

Hello all,

Years ago, I ordered four tins of JSB Monsters for a Brocock HP Sniper I had. Except I accidentally ordered the Beasts and didn't realize my mistake until many months later.

Specifically, I am talking about the JSB Exact Jumbo Beast 33.95 grain pellets.

I have been eyeing up the Seneca Eagle Claw as a powerful and interesting option that might shoot these extra pellets that have been sitting in my closet for so long. It also seems like it could be used with lighter pellets as well with the power turned down, making it a decent hunting gun for everything from sparrows to racoons.

Anyone have thoughts on the Beasts in an Eagle Claw?

Thank you,
-JSG

[Back_Roads]

 I do not have an Eagle Claw, but feel the gun would be up to the task, if you are not set on having an underlever action, you may also consider the AEA Challenger in .22, I have the .30 version, good basic powerful rifles.
https://utahairguns.com/aea-challenger-standard/

[JustSomeGuy]

I do not have an Eagle Claw, but feel the gun would be up to the task, if you are not set on having an underlever action, you may also consider the AEA Challenger in .22, I have the .30 version, good basic powerful rifles.

Thanks Back_Roads. I found a few pictures of a group Steve from AEAC shot with the Beasts out of an Eagle Claw and it looked pretty good. I think it was in his backyard so not particularly long range, but a good chance it might shoot "minute-of-racoon-vitals."

I have been looking at the AEA Challengers and am considering one in .357 or .457, down the line, to scratch the big bore itch.

[smythsg]

Nothing against the Eagle Claw good sir, but the Airforce guns could handle the task as well if you are into those rifles.

[JustSomeGuy]

Nothing against the Eagle Claw good sir, but the Airforce guns could handle the task as well if you are into those rifles.

I do really like the Airforce guns, but something about the lines of the Eagle Claw is peaking my interest, and a magazine would be nice for hunting.

[smythsg]

I did own one of the Sumatra Carbines for a while and it was a nice rifle. Was a bit LOUD so required a helper on the end!

[Back_Roads]

 Sheboygan is like Collins no noise issues for the most part.

[Spacebus]

I have an Eagle Claw rifle, but it's in 25 cal. I love the accuracy with which it slings 33 grain slugs at 950+ FPS. I'm sure the .22 cal is also a fine rifle, if a bit less powerful. In either caliber the rifle variant is comparable to a 22 LR shooting subsonic loads when the power adjuster is set to max. There is a valve on the market that can boost the power by some 25%, which is impressive! I agree with James that the AEA Challenger series is a comparable option in terms of power. Not sure if I agree on fit or finish, however. Even for a "mid tier" brand, the Seneca/Sam Yang products are very nicely made. If you don't mind a bit of tinkering and adjusting the AEA Challenger would serve you just as well. To my knowledge there aren't many, if any, other 25 cal repeaters on the market at the 70+ FPE power level without spending four figures or more. I do wish my Eagle Claw was lighter, but not sure if that's possible short of having a custom Ti or Al tube made for the gun. A few pounds lighter and it would be about perfect for an all round platform for small or mid size game.

[Blutroop]

They will fit in a prod magazine. I was able to get them up over 900 fps with a 19” barrel and valve porting. If tinkering is your cup o tea..

[bear air]

The eagle claw carbine is a nice looking rifle. I have a std challenger in 30. Nice rifle with plenty of power even nicer now I reshaped the stock and lost the 2x4 feel. I used to shoot those out of my gen 1 stormrider at 745 fps. They actually shot pretty true out to 50 yards. If memory serves me right it took a couple rabbits and a couple squirrels out at that distance.

[JustSomeGuy]

Is the shroud on the Eagle Claw vented? Seems like a hole toward the back would help it breath and make it bark a bit less.

I am moving to the family farm this weekend, so neighbors and noise will not be an issue. If it is less startling to pests, though, I might get a second shot, if I misjudge the wind, or if the first pest has a buddy nearby.

I will have to look into that valve. I am hoping to have something dialed in well for the JSB 25 grain Monsters, since I have a lot of those as well, but that can be turned up for the extra heavy 34 grain Beasts when the wind is going or the pest is bigger.

[Spacebus]

Is the shroud on the Eagle Claw vented? Seems like a hole toward the back would help it breath and make it bark a bit less.

I am moving to the family farm this weekend, so neighbors and noise will not be an issue. If it is less startling to pests, though, I might get a second shot, if I misjudge the wind, or if the first pest has a buddy nearby.

I will have to look into that valve. I am hoping to have something dialed in well for the JSB 25 grain Monsters, since I have a lot of those as well, but that can be turned up for the extra heavy 34 grain Beasts when the wind is going or the pest is bigger.

It's not vented, but game doesn't run when I miss. I've gotten second shot opportunities when hunting squirrels.

https://africanairordnance.com/424820687#!/sam-yang-airguns/products/seneca-eagle-claw--upgrade-kit--6-0x2e-35mm-0x2f-25cal

[JustSomeGuy]

Does the power adjuster wheel still let the gun dial down to use lighter pellets with all that extra oomph from the power upgrade?

[Spacebus]

Does the power adjuster wheel still let the gun dial down to use lighter pellets with all that extra oomph from the power upgrade?

I don't really know to be honest. However, the poppet adjuster is very functional, so should be able to get the power low enough even with a high flow valve. Will P. (rip) used to get the 25 cal long guns up to 100 FPE with a wider range of adjustment on the power wheel. I always wanted to send my rifle to him but didn't do it in time.

[JustSomeGuy]

It seem likely it would be able to push something in the 18 grain weight range with the wheel turned down.

Did you need a spanner wrench to install yours? I was reading online that people can have trouble with disassembly due to needing a spanner wrench.

Thank you for all the info.

[Spacebus]

It seem likely it would be able to push something in the 18 grain weight range with the wheel turned down.

Did you need a spanner wrench to install yours? I was reading online that people can have trouble with disassembly due to needing a spanner wrench.

Thank you for all the info.

I do not yet have the valve or know anything about installation. The Eagle Claw is not the most straightforward rifle to disassemble in the first place. I haven't removed the valve from the gun, yet.

[Habanero69er 🇺🇸]

AZ, I shoot the Beasts out of my WP Rainstorm-I @ >50FPE & they perform very well.

I would think they would do pretty good out of your Eagle Claw.

[JustSomeGuy]

Been watching a few videos and the Eagle Claw does look pretty massive. Questioning whether I will want something quite so big to manage.

[Habanero69er 🇺🇸]

The Eagle Claw & Eagle Claw carbine are about 3” & 5” longer than the Sumatra & Sumatra carbine.

[anti-squirrel]

Just a note- though those Beasts will work in just about any of the more powerful .22 PCPs, a heavier PCP will be more controllable. 

I tried some in my Leshiy Classic with the Huma reg cranked up.  The Beasts hit like a ton of bricks but my Leshiy is just too compact and light to show off the capabilities of those heavy-hitting JSBs.  They still grouped, but not like Hades and Exacts.  The Eagle Claw doesn't suffer from being a featherweight PCP so I'm thinking the combination would be great.