Looking for a Webley Patriot trigger guard and the stock screws

[Zuni]

Hello, I am looking for a trigger guard and all the stock screws for a Webley Patriot. If anyone knows where I might find them? Or something that would fit from another gun possibly even? Thanks in advance for any help.

[Denby95]

https://www.airgunspares.com/gunspares/airgun-spares/webley/patriot.html

[Zuni]

Thank you for the link. It looks like they might have the stick screws available. But no trigger guard. If anyone knows where to find the trigger guard that would be great. Even a used one or something else that would work will do. Appreciate any help.

[Toxylon]

Parts for Patriots (sounds like a company name) are becoming seriously scarce, as the gun is not produced anywhere anymore. I think the best bet would be the few tuners who work on these (Ed Krzynowek, David Slade), but are they willing to sell the trigger guards etc. separately, I don't know.

An additional complication is that the UK Patriots and the Turkish Patriots may not have interchangeable parts throughout. As the UK models were discontinued in 2007ish, most of what you find is Turkish in origin.

[Zuni]

I think your assessment is correct on the parts availability. Mine is also a UK version.

 Thanks for the suggestion. I will try emailing the folks you mention. Will still be looking for the trigger guard if anyone can help. Thanks!

[Denby95]

In the UK, Webley stuff is still quite abundant so you may try some of the UK forums to post in their classifieds though of course theres the added complication of getting someone willing to ship to the US.

[KWK]

That's your basic "later UK webley trigger guard". Hold on, I've seen them somewhere. Let me think. I'll get back

[KWK]

OK, I think this is it on this page. Protek supply. Email Phillip and ask to be sure.

http://proteksupplies.co.uk/webley-rifles-parts.html

[Toxylon]

Protek and Phillip are a treasure, but shipping any weapon parts out of the UK may be too much of a hassle.

Sometime back I asked Phillip about a chance of striking a deal of a pre-War antique spring gun (which have lax legislation even in the UK), and he only commented that even stuff like grip plates for a pistol crossbow will be seized by the local customs. That was the end of that.

There really are scores of English Patriots up for sale in the UK, and they cost next to nothing there. The Brits have next to no use for them, but getting them out of the country has been made extremely hard / expensive; the latest S&H quote I got was 500 GBP, for a 110 GBP gun. Most dealers simply say: no can do.

Here's to hoping you get what you need!

[Zuni]

That site is the trigger guard as it has the step to the screw height difference even in the picture I can tell. So you can’t even order the parts from a UK dealer to the U.S. now? Thanks for all the help!

[KWK]

I've never had any problems getting Airgun parts from UK. It is legal to export airgun parts out of UK.
I've bought stocks, barrels, and numerous other parts from eBay UK sellers as well. Many times. Bought from Protek before too.

[Zuni]

I reached out to him today. They are gonna try and send it to me next week. Something happened with the mail system there and they are having issues at the time. I will try another site for the stock screws as he was not sure he had those. Thanks everyone for the help! I have been looking for these parts for awhile now. Appreciate it.

[Denby95]

I have purchased several parts for my Webley vulcan without issue. One thing to note on the screws. I purposely bought screws from airgun spares expecting to get the original pozi drive style which are very hard to find in the US and was instead send equivalents that had an allen key head, which I could've bought those at any local hardware store, so that was annoying.

Besides that, they're one of the few sources for all the little bits like trigger springs etc and most items i've ordered show up in about a week's time.

[Toxylon]

I have bought mainsprings, seals, shims, pivot bolts, a PelletGage and some other AG stuff from the large UK suppliers, no problem. I was quite surprised by Phillip's reply (it was a good while ago). Direct quotes from other UK dealers confirmed that whole airguns are pretty much impossible to export.

These days, Brexit is really mucking things up. Here's a quote off airgunforums.co.uk, from this past October:

"I used to import collectable airguns fairly often from egun.de but since we left the EU things have been difficult. UK Customs and Excise intercept them and often return them to the sender or charge an arm and a leg to release the goods.

Buying from the US is almost impossible.

Senders generally won't send to the UK from anywhere."