Diana Gen 2 Stormrider syn or Beeman chief ll plus Syn.

[wll2506]

This is the one record I have from 2021 of 33 shots from the Chief II Plus-S that was on my FX chrono.:

Average Vel was 848 --- This is a powerful gun. I'm not sure if I adjusted the hammer tension by a 1/4 turn on this string every 7 or so shots ?



wll

[EdinGa]

End of this story. The op (me) just hit the buy button on a Stormrider Gen 2 Synthetic. Just a tad over two Benjamins with free shipping. Watched Tyler on Pyramid do an install of a Reg and on the Stormrider I cannot see how it could be easier. Will have to wait on the Reg when I get a couple more bucks in the air gun funds for the Reg.

I need one in .22 and 2 more regulators then I'll have all 3 calibers covered. Hopefully yours will be as good as the 2 I own already.

[desertplinker]

Thanks Eddie

I hope mine arrives with no major issues.

[K.O.]

Here is a little about Ribby's and my gen 1 .177s...

mine shot just a touch more fpe with 15g Sniper Mags than his with the 16.2g... other than that shot strings were close to mirroring his strings... 

https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=151471.0

[Ribbonstone]

Going back to the original post. Wanted .177, didn’t care about power, target shooting the goal, repeater preferred, synthetic stock was OK but not a must have.

Everyone has their own version of target shooting. Short range/long range.  Bullseye for score, dots, or just group size.  Most of us heap “plinking” in with the day’s shooting as well.

So the questions are: 1. What are you going to be shooting at?  2. How many times are you intending to shoot at one sitting?

The two are interrelated….power costs shot count.  No substitute for power when you need it.  Mostly do not need it to shoot targets.

For me, it’s shooting paper at 25-30 yards, looking for an average of 5 5-shot groups close to MOA size (.25” at 25 yards) and for just general goofing off; splattering old grapes and “feel good” spinners.  Call them “feel good” targets as we won’t know group size/how badly a miss is a miss; just feel good when it spins or splatters. 

Have put together inexpensive .177 HPA rifles  based on QB’s that do well on targets.  Not much work needed to end up at 200 shots (12 foot pound shots) per fill of the 13cuin HPA tank.  That’s a lot more than I’ll be able to seriously shoot at a sitting.  Could plink away that many shots, but not be able to really shoot my best much past 40-50 shots.

The  ,177 Stormrider (actually older than that...just call it a SPA) got set up for hunting.   Adjusted to 19 foot pounds and 25 good shots, it’s not super efficient, but serves well as a walk-about type rifle.  COULD likely down tune it to something closer to 11-12 foot pounds and about 40 good shots and make a good back yard target rifle out of it; it’s accurate enough to keep me entertained.

Regulation isn’t too expensive for a Storm-rider, that could get more shots per fill if that’s a goal.

Beeman’s lack of parts support really isn’t an issue for a hobbyist.  Most likely worse case is you have to make poppets….can find o-rings locally.   Large parts breakage is really rare (unless you mod it and have an “oops’).

[Spacebus]

End of this story. The op (me) just hit the buy button on a Stormrider Gen 2 Synthetic. Just a tad over two Benjamins with free shipping. Watched Tyler on Pyramid do an install of a Reg and on the Stormrider I cannot see how it could be easier. Will have to wait on the Reg when I get a couple more bucks in the air gun funds for the Reg.

See if you can find a CP-2 hammer spring. With the reg set to 100b and the lighter spring you can get around 40 consistent shots per fill. If you install the reg without a plenum you will not hit the same peak power as unregulated, but 150b would be the "power tune" for using a reg. The original hammer spring is a bit too strong for lower reg settings, but will work well at 150b. You should still get a decent number of shots per fill at 150b.

personally I fill these guns to 220b with a regulator fitted, I do not suggest anyone else do this, but it's what I do.

[Spacebus]

Stoeger XM1 is the best version of stormrider. thumhoe and bi-pod is optional.
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This was also news to me, so I looked it up, and sure enough it is! The included sling mounts are also a nice touch. It also looks like the barrel has a shroud forward of the barrel band, even though that moderator is hideous. I kind of want to try one, but not in the budget right now. Maybe after I convert my Stormrider to .25 cal I'll snag one.

[Ribbonstone]

Steve:

Think you’ll like the size/weight of the Storm-rider and hopefully it will fill your expectations/needs. 

Reason I kept mine at 19 foot pounds was simple...I bought a .177 CO2 version (600W) at the same time to fill the low-power role.

Normally will not adjust anything until I’ve shot the rifle 100 times to at least start a break in.  Maybe the trigger, but would be ready to readjust it after a few 100 cycles.

[desertplinker]

Thanks for the answers guys thats one reason that I come here. So much experience on here.

So, some answers. Mostly I can only shoot 27 yards max in the backyard. Bench rest shooting at paper to start. Then, off hand shooting to remain humble. When I can I like to go out and just plink in the desert stretching out the distance. 11-12 FT. LBS is just fine, more shots per fill the better but need to be in the sweet spot. What guide lines can those with experience offer for a reg? Is it even worth it. I have a chronograph so I can tune for the sweet spot and have tank and compressor so filling often is not an issue. Spacebus ... I like the idea of a lighter hammer spring. Will look into that. Installing the Reg in the Stormrider is so easy, that's one reason i am considering that. Seems snowpeak is emerging as the champion leader for any brand that wants to put their name on a entry level low cost Chinese PCP.

[Spacebus]

Thanks for the answers guys thats one reason that I come here. So much experience on here.

So, some answers. Mostly I can only shoot 27 yards max in the backyard. Bench rest shooting at paper to start. Then, off hand shooting to remain humble. When I can I like to go out and just plink in the desert stretching out the distance. 11-12 FT. LBS is just fine, more shots per fill the better but need to be in the sweet spot. What guide lines can those with experience offer for a reg? Is it even worth it. I have a chronograph so I can tune for the sweet spot and have tank and compressor so filling often is not an issue. Spacebus ... I like the idea of a lighter hammer spring. Will look into that. Installing the Reg in the Stormrider is so easy, that's one reason i am considering that. Seems snowpeak is emerging as the champion leader for any brand that wants to put their name on a entry level low cost Chinese PCP.

Don't use the lighter CP-2 Hammer spring unless you get a regulator, otherwise you won't be able to open the valve on a full fill. It's designed for CO2 pressures, not HPA. When coupled with a regulator you will get 40+ shots with a sub 5% ES with a 220b fill. In .177 I would expect power to be 12-15 FPE with that tune. Also the bolt will be much easier to cock and less like the break the bolt handle (a weak point on these guns, I've broken a few).

If you keep the rifle unregulated you get like 13-16 shots in the sweet spot at 20-25 FPE at 175b down to 135b. The tuning is not actually that bad out of the box if you don't fill past 175b, if you are looking for power.

[K.O.]

The Thing I like about the Storm is the ease of changing the barrel...be careful not to strip the grub screws tho... but yep loosen the two grub screws and out she comes...

Mine should be the Monkey King Storm with a few different barrels... a 26" barrel and we are talking a ~30fpe .177... a 19" L.W. Barrel just cause it say's it's a Diana(German)...

[Spacebus]

The Thing I like about the Storm is the ease of changing the barrel...be careful not to strip the grub screws tho... but yep loosen the two grub screws and out she comes...

Mine should be the Monkey King Storm with a few different barrels... a 26" barrel and we are talking a ~30fpe .177... a 19" L.W. Barrel just cause it say's it's a Diana(German)...

Where did you get the 26" barrel?

[K.O.]

sorry have not done it yet... did not mean to mislead... had picked up a .177 Maximus Barrel from crosman to mod/turn down breech area for it... and then sleeve to 1/2" with aluminum tube... with two bored out barrel bands...

but then the 362 was announced  and it went on it instead... hopefully they (Maximus barrels) will be back in stock soon...

[USAFANG6799]

Stoeger XM1 is the best version of stormrider. thumhoe and bi-pod is optional.
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How do you know it's a Stormrider?
I was looking through their catalog and it does like it's an interesting PCP.

[USAFANG6799]

Stoeger XM1 is the best version of stormrider. thumhoe and bi-pod is optional.
b

How do you know it's a Stormrider?
I was looking through their catalog and it does like it's an interesting PCP.

Never mind  "Mine should be the Monkey King Storm with a few different barrels... a 26" barrel and we are talking a ~30fpe .177... a 19" L.W. Barrel just cause it say's it's a Diana(German)..."

[desertplinker]

Looked at the Stoeger XM and I am not crazy about the barrel shroud being attached to the tube, also the trigger says single stage like the Stormrider Gen one non adjustable, and I got the stormrider gen 2 for a few less dollars. Just me but i don't care for the shroud on the Stoeger.

[Ribbonstone]

Xm is about 5" longer over all....most of that is shroud/LDC length...so it likely is quieter.

[Spacebus]

Looked at the Stoeger XM and I am not crazy about the barrel shroud being attached to the tube, also the trigger says single stage like the Stormrider Gen one non adjustable, and I got the stormrider gen 2 for a few less dollars. Just me but i don't care for the shroud on the Stoeger.

It's not attached to the tube, but comes close to contact the fill cap. The camo version has a slightly different moderator with more clearance between the fill cap and back of the mod. The black one looks like it has a flip out section for checking fill pressure.

It's definitely a unique version of the platform.

[desertplinker]

as some of you know I ordered the Stormrider and am awaiting delivery. In the meantime I am searching and researching all that I can find on the Stormrider and look what I found. Connecticut airguns (Hector) has done some tuning on the Stormrider. If some of you don't know Hector is active in the Airgun competition community and has actually been involved in shooting competition for most of his life. He was involved in the Altaros Regulator design for the Stormrider and he and I are exchanging emails at the present time I hope that he will help me tune the Stormrider for my personal needs. I would post a link but I am not sure that I am allowed. I will ask Hector if I can repost his emails on here. Funny thing is I ordered the Stormrider before I had any idea that Hector had already been working on them. LOL

[K.O.]

yep He even put a Diana barrel on one...wish I could source one for mine..   he did say Diana was thinking about putting them out as "accessory" barrels... 

https://www.ctcustomairguns.com/hectors-airgun-blog/exploring-the-diana-stormrider-part-3-the-mid-power-region-800-fps-and-above-in-0177-and-20-ft-lbs-022-under-real-world-conditions-at-the-2018-pyramyd-air-cup