Accuracy results + my thoughts on the 362

[Keepingitsimple]

Keepingitsimple: please read the thread on Alliance Hobby on this sight. I am still awaiting the conclusion of my fraud claim to my CC company regarding AH. They’re not what they used to be (meaning they seem to no longer be a legit business).

I wasn't even planning to. I used AH as a starting point for the barrel I'm looking for. I needed part numbers and better prices. Phil provided that. Thanks again, Phil.

Just paying it forward…avator bailed me out…as for stomach trouble…..been fighting gasritis since last October..brought on all sorts of things including a hernia which required surgery….good luck

Crosman recommended UPS as barrels were getting returned due to damaged….via usps…..I had several items in shipment …sorry I dont remember total cost….

Last October: perhaps early November was when my gasteritis started too.

I was definitely feeling it by Thanksgiving.
One of the things I do great is smoking turkey's. Or, smoking anything really.
I could barely stand to look at last years spatchcocked turkey, let alone eat more than half of it.
And, it was a beauty too. I outdid myself with that one.

I've got a Dr's appt later today. I figured I'd hit them first and stop by the gunsmith's on the way home. No telephone number, unfortunately. I'm actually killing 2 birds with one stone there as I was planning on filling up my backpack with cheap coffee from a box store adjacent to him.

Once I get home I'm calling Crosman. Might see if I can talk them into another $88 C362 (another 2 birds...).

[Spooner]

I haven't received my Disco barrel yet, but did get my Challenger barrel. I pushed a .177 JSB Monster through it...

... very nice engagement.

It is definitely a LW barrel and it is definitely choked. The lead and crown are flawless. Won't get to install it until this weekend, not sure when weather will allow accuracy tests, but will chrony it. With the power the gun has in .22... it should be very interesting to see what it has as a .177. 

[Keepingitsimple]

It is the Disco SE 24" barrel cut and crowned at 21".

Would that be part # 2260SE-001 or would that be part # 1760SE-001?
https://www.alliancehobby.com/discobbl.htm

Hopefully I can find a better price than what AH wants.

check with crosman…I got mine for $23.75 before shipping….Have u read the thread on AH….good luck
 1760SE-001. (Courtesy of avator)
I never bothered to have mine cut and crowned…but a local gunsmith said he could/would..

I never did get around to ordering parts the other day. Trust me, going to the doctor when one rides a bike to get around can be an ordeal. Southwest headwind was fighting me coming and going. I was exhausted by the time I got home.

I'm about halfway there on my ordering from Crosman.
I'm definitely ordering the .177 Disco barrel and a .177 muzzle adapter for the Maximus for a 1/2-20 can.

I started to order a C362 but the AGNATION code isn't working for me.

Smartest thing would be to wait until the AGNATION code is working; (and it also dawned on me to wait until Friday for possible free shipping). Then order another C362, a steel breech, and the .177 Disco barrel and .177 muzzle adapter.

Then it occurred to me to ask about the part numbers for the .22 Disco barrel and ,22 Maximus muzzle adapter. Probably be better to have the option at least to put the .22 Disco barrel on later while the muzzle adapter would go on immediately.

[tennx]

It is the Disco SE 24" barrel cut and crowned at 21".

Would that be part # 2260SE-001 or would that be part # 1760SE-001?
https://www.alliancehobby.com/discobbl.htm

Hopefully I can find a better price than what AH wants.

check with crosman…I got mine for $23.75 before shipping….Have u read the thread on AH….good luck
 1760SE-001. (Courtesy of avator)
I never bothered to have mine cut and crowned…but a local gunsmith said he could/would..

I never did get around to ordering parts the other day. Trust me, going to the doctor when one rides a bike to get around can be an ordeal. Southwest headwind was fighting me coming and going. I was exhausted by the time I got home.

I'm about halfway there on my ordering from Crosman.
I'm definitely ordering the .177 Disco barrel and a .177 muzzle adapter for the Maximus for a 1/2-20 can.

I started to order a C362 but the AGNATION code isn't working for me.

Smartest thing would be to wait until the AGNATION code is working; (and it also dawned on me to wait until Friday for possible free shipping). Then order another C362, a steel breech, and the .177 Disco barrel and .177 muzzle adapter.

Then it occurred to me to ask about the part numbers for the .22 Disco barrel and ,22 Maximus muzzle adapter. Probably be better to have the option at least to put the .22 Disco barrel on later while the muzzle adapter would go on immediately.

Check the classifieds ….

[Keepingitsimple]

Check the classifieds ….

Looks like this is my 'Doh' moment.

I'm maxed out on tummy med's, at present. I feel like I have about a 10 second flash to bang reactive thinking today.
On the other hand, I just fired a 20 yard open sighted group with my .177 Optimus that had me seriously questioning my decision to get the .177 disco barrel. LOL

It's gusting out of the Northwest today at 17 mph. It took me about an hour to shoot that group waiting for the wind to die down between shots.

Turned out too that my pellet pen for that rifle only had 7 pellets left in it. Filled that back up to the brim with 7.9 cphp and replaced it in its sheath. My Optimus is my back door rifle.

[Keepingitsimple]

Check the classifieds ….

The classifieds were less than helpful. That's ok, Instead, I downloaded the EVP manual for the Disco and the Maximus to get the part numbers. Crosman is OOS for the .177 SE barrel. I was able to order the .22 SE barrel and the Maximus muzzle adapter for a 1/2-20 can. Lady I talked to told me when to check back for the .177 SE barrel.

Turns out Crosman no longer has free shipping on Fridays and the AGNATION discount code is history.

[Spooner]

An update on the Crosman Challenger .177 barrel...

I have had to learn from the school of hard knocks and a big thank you to Ron for helping me sort this out.

When I installed my Challenger barrel, I had an issue with the bolt seating fully into the lead of the barrel. I returned the barrel believing that the Lead, which looked flawless, had not been fully finished. I got a second replacement barrel and got the exact same thing. The lead itself was flawless, however it was a straight lead and not a tapered one.

The original Challenger barrel from about 2013 and prior was made by Lothar Walther and had a tapered lead. At some point after that, Crosman changed the Challenger barrel lead from a tapered to a straight lead and started making them in-house. Instead of using a new part number for the in-house barrel, they kept the same part number instead of changing it, causing confusion between the two different versions. The CH2009-014 that Crosman carries, so far, seems to be the Straight lead barrels and they will not work on the 13xx or 362 platforms. I have returned the barrel again and am waiting to see if Crosman can sort this out and provide me the correct version of this barrel. My guess is that they probably do not have any of the original barrels left in stock. I just have to wait and see? My guess at this point is that I will have to return the next one for refund and locate the correct version elsewhere or just go with a Disco barrel and hope for the best.

If anyone here is considering the Challenger barrel as an option, you will have to make sure that it is the version with the tapered lead and not the straight one.

[avator]

1760SE-001 is what you want.

[Spooner]

1760SE-001 is what you want.

Thanks Bill, I appreciate that . Crosman is currently out of stock with the .177 Disco barrel and didn't really know for sure when they would have them back in? I had one on order last month when they said they had them but cancelled it a few weeks later when I called asking about and they told me they mis-stated it's availability. I can get the .22 version but holding off for now until Crosman responds to this Challenger fiasco. Ron might have a lead on where I can get the original LW Challenger barrel as well, so all is not lost yet. I have options, I just have to be patient and learn what those options are whether Disco, or Challenger?

[Rick67]

Personally, I prefer LW barrels.

The Challenger barrel is a bit undersized though.

[Spooner]

Personally, I prefer LW barrels.

The Challenger barrel is a bit undersized though.

same here. The original Challenger barrel is a Lother Walther, so I am holding out for now to see if I can get one. If I end going Disco... I will go back to one in .22 since that was what my main interest in this 362 was to begin with. 

[Rick67]

Personally, I prefer LW barrels.

The Challenger barrel is a bit undersized though.

same here. The original Challenger barrel is a Lother Walther, so I am holding out for now to see if I can get one. If I end going Disco... I will go back to one in .22 since that was what my main interest in this 362 was to begin with. 

I was pertaining to the OD of the LW Challenger barrel.

I saw one for sale by D_ray something.

The breech has been reworked by Nervoustrigger, so the length is now 18".

[Keepingitsimple]

1760SE-001 is what you want.

ksThanks Bill, I appreciate that . Crosman is currently out of stock with the .177 Disco barrel and didn't really know for sure when they would have them back in? I had one on order last month when they said they had them but cancelled it a few weeks later when I called asking about and they told me they mis-stated it's availability. I can get the .22 version but holding off for now until Crosman responds to this Challenger fiasco. Ron might have a lead on where I can get the original LW Challenger barrel as well, so all is not lost yet. I have options, I just have to be patient and learn what those options are whether Disco, or Challenger?

Pre-order the 1760SE-001 from Crosman. That's what I did Monday. The lady said it would likely be up to 2 weeks; but that it would be worth the wait.

Crosman emailed me this morning to let me know my .177 Disco SE barrel is on the way. 4 days delay in this case? Not bad.

[Rick67]

Personally, I prefer LW barrels.

The Challenger barrel is a bit undersized though.

same here. The original Challenger barrel is a Lother Walther, so I am holding out for now to see if I can get one. If I end going Disco... I will go back to one in .22 since that was what my main interest in this 362 was to begin with. 

I was pertaining to the OD of the LW Challenger barrel.

I saw one for sale by D_ray something.

The breech has been reworked by Nervoustrigger, so the length is now 18".

Sold 

https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=198231.0#msg156311409


Super cheap, IMHO.

[Spooner]

1760SE-001 is what you want.

ksThanks Bill, I appreciate that . Crosman is currently out of stock with the .177 Disco barrel and didn't really know for sure when they would have them back in? I had one on order last month when they said they had them but cancelled it a few weeks later when I called asking about and they told me they mis-stated it's availability. I can get the .22 version but holding off for now until Crosman responds to this Challenger fiasco. Ron might have a lead on where I can get the original LW Challenger barrel as well, so all is not lost yet. I have options, I just have to be patient and learn what those options are whether Disco, or Challenger?

Pre-order the 1760SE-001 from Crosman. That's what I did Monday. The lady said it would likely be up to 2 weeks; but that it would be worth the wait.

Crosman emailed me this morning to let me know my .177 Disco SE barrel is on the way. 4 days delay in this case? Not bad.

Thanks Jacob  . I will see what Crosman comes back with on the current barrel before I get any deeper in this then I already am, then decide. 

Personally, I prefer LW barrels.

The Challenger barrel is a bit undersized though.

same here. The original Challenger barrel is a Lother Walther, so I am holding out for now to see if I can get one. If I end going Disco... I will go back to one in .22 since that was what my main interest in this 362 was to begin with. 

I was pertaining to the OD of the LW Challenger barrel.

I saw one for sale by D_ray something.

The breech has been reworked by Nervoustrigger, so the length is now 18".

Sold 

https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=198231.0#msg156311409


Super cheap, IMHO.

Yes, I have LW on both my modded 13xx's and the OD's are very close. This is for the 362 so the length is important and the Challenger is almost exact in length. I would be fine with the longer Disco barrels too. 

[Rick67]

Yeah, 18" is too short for the 362.

It works, but you can "almost" never mount an LDC.

[Spooner]

Got both Disco barrels ordered from Crosman. I am "on the list" for the .177, and there are 5 ahead of me, but the .22 is in stock. 

I will go with the .22 first anyway, as that is what I ordered the 362 for, but will have the option for .177 if needed.

[Keepingitsimple]

Got both Disco barrels ordered from Crosman. I am "on the list" for the .177, and there are 5 ahead of me, but the .22 is in stock. 

I will go with the .22 first anyway, as that is what I ordered the 362 for, but will have the option for .177 if needed.

I'm doing the opposite thing. My .22 barrel came in yesterday. It gives noticeable pep to even 3 pumps. Accuracy is better too.

But, I ordered and modded a Winchester 1977XS last year trying to get a major league bird gun out of it and didn't quite succeed. On the other hand, my homemade 1389 project exceeded beyond my wildest dreams.
The range of the 1389 is kinda limited though.

My .177 SE barrel will be here this afternoon. I'm hoping its as accurate as the .22 SE barrel.
If it is, then the .177 will be my main rifle while keeping the .22 barrel as an option.

[classicalgas]

I'm late to the party with the 362, but so far not too impressed. I was playing with the QB guns mostly, before I took a few years off airguns, and the 22XX guns feel toylike and flimsy in comparison. I do have a couple long steel receivers from when I messed with the lego guns, so one of those is going on this 362, that plastic receiver still not worthy.This 352 barrel has got to go, too...it's rough as a cob inside.  Have an old disco barrel (maybe 2260?) that's smooth as glass inside...I may have taper lapped it back in the day. That's going on the 362 as well, it's longer.The trigger contact points have been stoned, we'll se if that's enough, there may be an old trigger unit around with all the mods already done. A spring guide for the spring, and we'll see how it goes.

[Back_Roads]

 1 of the 3 362s I bought had a barrel that needed attention, replaced it with the longer 2260 barrel, deburred and polished the oe 362 barrel and used it on the 2260.
 Let the Legoing begin