A.E.A. the gun of the moment ?

[Mr.P]

That’s good to hear.  So far the 25 carbine has not had a single issue and I have two spare valve pins on hand if it ever does. You hear about these things with a new gun like this you don’t know if it’s an inevitability or just something that’s a fluke thing on a few guns.

By the way may I suggest getting poppets and other parts from the pellet shop.  They are generous with information, ship fast, and don’t charge as much for parts or shipping as some of the other places I checked.  You all probably already know that but it is worth mentioning.

I now have a Rex p .357 to make use of the mold and rounds I bought for the Max.  Another loud gun but not quite as loud.

I kind of miss the magazine but the under lever action, weight /balance of the Rex p is a treat.

[Wayne52]

Marco I have the 25 carbine and simply don't have any problems with it at all, I did buy a spare poppet for it only because I've heard others having poppet problems.  I've never had to replace any poppets
on any of my AEA airguns,  The only thing that I have replaced on my carbine is an o ring in the barrel which was in reality my fault because I put some winged skirted pellets through it that sliced it.

[Spacebus]

My choice was between the Challenger and the Eagle Claw in .22. I chose the Eagle Claw, the lever action is cool and finish is good. What's not is the short stock, OK is your 4' tall, not so if your 6'2".
 My other gripe is when I hand pumped from 100 to just under 200 bar the pressure release valve on the hand pump also released the rifles air reservoir. That should not happen.

 Wondering if I made the right choice.

I'm only 5'10" and find my Eagle Claw LOP to be fine, but it's a heavy rifle. I did not have the same experience using a hand pump, but I haven't used one with the 'Claw in over a year now. It's been my most reliable air gun in terms of leaking as well. Maybe it's worth calling PA and asking them.

 That's reassuring. Pyramid Air says that the problem is that I did not release the air from the pump fast enough. I will see what happens next time.

I always try to release the bleed screw as quickly as possible. I do know Will P. (RIP) used to offer an upgraded check valve when he rebuilt/tuned these guns. It was always my plan to send him my gun, but I waited too long.

Every once in a while I fill past the 190b, which is where I get max accuracy for the first shot, and I slowly open the bleed screw on my fill station or hand pump to let out a bit of extra air. I'm not totally surprised, especially on a hand pump, that you could dump the whole cylinder by mistake.

I don't think your eagle claw was a mistake. About the same power in that caliber as the challenger but with lever action and better power tuner. I miss mine for sure. Mine EC came packed with grease, slowing the hammer down so much only got 40 fpe. 80 after I cleaned it out in .25.  the stocks are weak so try not to drop it. Also had the same issue with it releasing the air. I believe I held it upside down when draining the pumps hose and giving it a few light taps on the ground helped. Still awesome gun though. There's a diagram online that shows thers a  degassing screw but its just another screw that holds the valve in. I blew my valve into the wall at full pressure. But Maybe I wasn't supposed to take all of them out idk 

Yea my gauntlet came leaking in 3 different areas and it ruined my whole first day.

I'm just saying AEA gets some hate from ppl about the quality but to me they are super solid guns. Everyone I've had and I've had almost all of them. I don't see AEA going anywhere anytime soon, hopefully aftermatket parts pop up like they did for the gauntlet. That's one thing I do like about the new gauntlet. Part availability and modifications.

Where did you find the diagram? I've been passively searching or a parts list and diagram since I bought the rifle. I even asked PA/AV customer service about getting something and they refused. They only want customers to send the rifles back for service, owner service seems to be frowned upon.

[Spacebus]

That’s good to hear.  So far the 25 carbine has not had a single issue and I have two spare valve pins on hand if it ever does. You hear about these things with a new gun like this you don’t know if it’s an inevitability or just something that’s a fluke thing on a few guns.

By the way may I suggest getting poppets and other parts from the pellet shop.  They are generous with information, ship fast, and don’t charge as much for parts or shipping as some of the other places I checked.  You all probably already know that but it is worth mentioning.

I now have a Rex p .357 to make use of the mold and rounds I bought for the Max.  Another loud gun but not quite as loud.

I kind of miss the magazine but the under lever action, weight /balance of the Rex p is a treat.

Magazines are kind of a novelty to me in a big bore. They usually only hold enough onboard air to give you two or three full power shots. Dropping a slug into the single shot tray on my .457 is not much slower than using the magazine, and I'm rarely in a hurry to fire a successive shot. The AEA magazines also aren't that great, and at least in my .457 mags the spring is way strong.

[Wayne52]

Fart'n around at the state land this morning, I'll do another one soon with the same gun at the pressure I left it today.



I started at a higher pressure than what's ideal for this gun.

[Mr.P]

Looks good. What pressure did you start at more or less?

On an unrelated note:

The 47-50 fpe my Carbine puts out is more powerful than I give credit for I think.  Shot a scrap of 2x6 and it went straight through and into the putty trap behind it.  Granted it was pine and a pretty clear section of plank but I didn’t expect a Diablo pellet out of this gun to do that. 

[Get some mustard]

Here's the diagram for the eagle claw I believe I used. Looking at it now I definitely confused (7-1) "exhaust valve screw" to mean degassing screw Wich could have been a deadly mistake. Luckily I was holding it sideways. Had to use vice grips to get it out and when it went off I couldn't hear for about ten minutes. It was my second airgun and a  very rookie mistake, but I learned  to respect the power they have. Patience! And to always be safe and empty the air before you tinker with them. I couldn't post the link but if you Google seneca eagle claw and then click image search it will pop up.

50 fpe is nothing to sneeze at, I wouldn't want to get hit with it. I had a .30 hp carbine up to 70 fpe reliably, so power can be increased. But that can be a massive headache aswell. Would like to own one again.a .357 Terminator would be my next one 4 sure. Also want another .357 challenger and one in 25. Sold my .357 right B4 the regs came out

[Wayne52]

Looks good. What pressure did you start at more or less?

On an unrelated note:

The 47-50 fpe my Carbine puts out is more powerful than I give credit for I think.  Shot a scrap of 2x6 and it went straight through and into the putty trap behind it.  Granted it was pine and a pretty clear section of plank but I didn’t expect a Diablo pellet out of this gun to do that. 

I started at about 3500psi, right now it's down to about 3300psi, I can get 40 shots from it starting at 3500psi so I've still got another 3 clips worth of shooting I can do with it before a refill.

[USAFANG6799]

Wayne - Which AEA HP did you get?
Seems to be quite a few models?

[Wayne52]

Matt I've got the HP 25 cal carbine, back when I bought it they said it was a 12" barrel but the new ones claim 13" but Bin at the pellet shop told me they were both the same length barrel,  I got a larger male red squirrel with it this morning.  I also did a 5 shot group on a target with it today too after I got the red squirrel.  It's not bad for 40 yards but I have a hard time not shooting fast with it when shooting at a target, they're just sooo darned much fun.  I probably won't get my Challenger .22 back out til squirrel season because right now them longer range shots are a heck of a lot harder than they will be during squirrels season.

[USAFANG6799]

Wayne - That's the one I was just looking at in .25 cal. but noticed the barrel length is 14".
There is only 3 FPE between the .25 and the .22. Given the short spread between the .22 and .25
is it worth going to the .25? Can that 3 fpe be made up by shooting a heavier slug/pellet?

Good chatting with you again Wayne.

[Wayne52]

Here's what I'm getting with mine, it's plenty of power in case of a ground hog or something like that.

[Spacebus]

Here's the diagram for the eagle claw I believe I used. Looking at it now I definitely confused (7-1) "exhaust valve screw" to mean degassing screw Wich could have been a deadly mistake. Luckily I was holding it sideways. Had to use vice grips to get it out and when it went off I couldn't hear for about ten minutes. It was my second airgun and a  very rookie mistake, but I learned  to respect the power they have. Patience! And to always be safe and empty the air before you tinker with them. I couldn't post the link but if you Google seneca eagle claw and then click image search it will pop up.

50 fpe is nothing to sneeze at, I wouldn't want to get hit with it. I had a .30 hp carbine up to 70 fpe reliably, so power can be increased. But that can be a massive headache aswell. Would like to own one again.a .357 Terminator would be my next one 4 sure. Also want another .357 challenger and one in 25. Sold my .357 right B4 the regs came out

Thanks, I was able to find a full quality version since you included the URL in the picture.

[Mr.P]

Dang - your .25 Hp carbine is shooting more consistently and powerfully than mine by a fair amount.  Not that it matters practically but I can’t get more than 48 fpe with 35 grain projectiles and no where near that consistency.  Amazing shot string no wonder you are happy!

[USAFANG6799]

50 +- FPE is plenty to take out a groundhog especially if it's headshot or vitals.
I've been able to take out raccoons with my .22 caliber Marauder with headshots. Goes for squirrels too.
But I have noticed that .22 caliber in the vitals they will run off less than 50 yards and drop.
I can't always go find them because they went on property that is off-limits.
So that's why I was thinking .25 caliber might take care of that in vitals?
Unsure about going .25 because all I shoot is .22 pellets and slugs. Have to get into a whole new
inventory going with .25.

[Spacebus]

50 +- FPE is plenty to take out a groundhog especially if it's headshot or vitals.
I've been able to take out raccoons with my .22 caliber Marauder with headshots. Goes for squirrels too.
But I have noticed that .22 caliber in the vitals they will run off less than 50 yards and drop.
I can't always go find them because they went on property that is off-limits.
So that's why I was thinking .25 caliber might take care of that in vitals?
Unsure about going .25 because all I shoot is .22 pellets and slugs. Have to get into a whole new
inventory going with .25.

.25 cal ammo is getting close to bulk .22lr ammo pricing, so it can be a hard sell if you aren't casting your own.

[Wayne52]

Dang - your .25 Hp carbine is shooting more consistently and powerfully than mine by a fair amount.  Not that it matters practically but I can’t get more than 48 fpe with 35 grain projectiles and no where near that consistency.  Amazing shot string no wonder you are happy!

I honestly think that the deep skirt with a long pellet that I'm shooting has a lot to do with it too, plus the fact that pure lead will seal that skirt better than an alloy pellet.  The AEA's wide open like I run mine really do pack a punch.  My 26 grain Hunters would probably shoot really good out of the gun but I'd have to turn the power down.  One thing about pure lead though is they do corrode fast not being alloyed so I never cast more than 2 big tins of them each time that I cast.

[customcutter]

.25 cal ammo is getting close to bulk .22lr ammo pricing, so it can be a hard sell if you aren't casting your own.

I wait until either Amazon or Field Supply have sales.  You can pick up tins of 200 for $8.49-$9.99.

[rualert]

     Sorry, all if I'm opening a half-now dead thread again, but I just picked up a Carbine in 25, that I need to get some rounds through to see if the groups settle down, and I haven't had a chance to Chrony it or the HP Max SS 30 yet either. I picked up an extra 30 carbine length shroud when I go the 25 carbine for the HP Max SS and it did wonders for backyard friendliness.
A couple of quick questions now that I have read through all 45-ish pages. I saw mention of single shot trays and would love to pick up a 25 and 30 cal version or at least the 3D print files so I can roll my own. I remember I believe it was Mr. P who used the stock holder to make a semi-power adjuster, need to find that page/s again as I might need to turn the 30 up a bit before the NSA slugs get here.
Well, so far I very much like both of mine, so tinkering will come soon enough, any word on aftermarket or home tuning bits and pieces? I have my own lathe, so I'm up to make just about anything. Seriously considering getting a 257 barrel and turning it to fit in the 30 SS so I can swap it in for serious long-range haven't decided.

Thanks all,
Casey

[customcutter]

     Sorry, all if I'm opening a half-now dead thread again, but I just picked up a Carbine in 25, that I need to get some rounds through to see if the groups settle down, and I haven't had a chance to Chrony it or the HP Max SS 30 yet either. I picked up an extra 30 carbine length shroud when I go the 25 carbine for the HP Max SS and it did wonders for backyard friendliness.
A couple of quick questions now that I have read through all 45-ish pages. I saw mention of single shot trays and would love to pick up a 25 and 30 cal version or at least the 3D print files so I can roll my own. I remember I believe it was Mr. P who used the stock holder to make a semi-power adjuster, need to find that page/s again as I might need to turn the 30 up a bit before the NSA slugs get here.
Well, so far I very much like both of mine, so tinkering will come soon enough, any word on aftermarket or home tuning bits and pieces? I have my own lathe, so I'm up to make just about anything. Seriously considering getting a 257 barrel and turning it to fit in the 30 SS so I can swap it in for serious long-range haven't decided.

Thanks all,
Casey

Casey, I would suggest getting some PEEK and making a couple of spare poppets.  Sooner or later you are going to need them.