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.25 vs house sparrows (viewer's discretion advised)
« on: April 05, 2021, 03:58:09 PM »
Took 3 shots at what I believe where house sparrows (female). The males were moving around to much and wouldn't sit still long enough to get the right shot.
Heavy winds made me choose the .25.
1st bird was 20 yards and decided to go two different directions.
2nd bird was about 25 yards and split his muffin cap'back blue
3rd was 45ish and did a side flip into the ground.

New to bird watching but I seen these aggressive little  birds swarm on the birds I really like. Like this one I seen today and I don't even know what it is.
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Re: .25 vs house sparrows (viewer's discretion advised)
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2021, 09:28:09 PM »
Rick, excellent shots on those HOSP's! Vaporized is a word I would use! LOL! Have no idea what species that last one is but you are protecting it and others very very well!
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Re: .25 vs house sparrows (viewer's discretion advised)
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2021, 09:58:24 PM »
 That last bird looks like a Gold Finch to me ? Avoid them,  amazing what .25 does to small fluffy things  8) ;D
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Re: .25 vs house sparrows (viewer's discretion advised)
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2021, 10:38:25 PM »
I think the 3rd and maybe the 4th one you got looks to be a white crown sparrow though.  These guys will usually run along the ground a lot as opposed to flying into seed on the ground like a house sparrow. Friendly fire.  Try to avoid those  ;D  All others are unrecognizable as they should be.

Download the Merlin App for your phone and it will help identifying the good and the BAD BAD birdies.

Scissor-tailed Flycatcher is your bird.

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Re: .25 vs house sparrows (viewer's discretion advised)
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2021, 11:52:43 PM »
That last bird looks like a Gold Finch to me ? Avoid them,  amazing what .25 does to small fluffy things  8) ;D
And here I have been with .177 all my life lol. It sure is a nice birdie, really brightens up the place,especially with new garden in the works.
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Re: .25 vs house sparrows (viewer's discretion advised)
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2021, 12:02:10 AM »
I think the 3rd and maybe the 4th one you got looks to be a white crown sparrow though.  These guys will usually run along the ground a lot as opposed to flying into seed on the ground like a house sparrow. Friendly fire.  Try to avoid those  ;D  All others are unrecognizable as they should be.

Download the Merlin App for your phone and it will help identifying the good and the BAD BAD birdies.

Scissor-tailed Flycatcher is your bird.

Here is what the Merlin app looks like:





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Well I sure hope not, because they were on the ground  so I'll be sure to double check the markings now. I'll download the app & thanks never heard of a Scissor-tailed Flycatcher. I would like a family of those in the backyard for sure.
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Re: .25 vs house sparrows (viewer's discretion advised)
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2021, 12:04:21 AM »
That last bird looks like a Gold Finch to me ? Avoid them,  amazing what .25 does to small fluffy things  8) ;D

Scissor-tail flycatcher......beautiful birds! I usually have a breeding pair here every summer.
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Re: .25 vs house sparrows (viewer's discretion advised)
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2021, 12:30:09 AM »
That second photo doesn't look to me like house sparrows. The male HS has a black "bib" on his chest. The female will typically be WITH the male. I don't normally shoot at any female unless she is accompanied by a male, since they look similar to a few other species.
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Re: .25 vs house sparrows (viewer's discretion advised)
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2021, 01:02:42 AM »
none look like house sparrows to me
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Re: .25 vs house sparrows (viewer's discretion advised)
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2021, 07:10:38 AM »
That last bird looks like a Gold Finch to me ? Avoid them,  amazing what .25 does to small fluffy things  8) ;D

Scissor-tail flycatcher......beautiful birds! I usually have a breeding pair here every summer.

+1 on beautiful birds!

It's the state bird of Oklahoma.
I can remember seeing these from when I was 6 years old. It's in the king bird family.
These are insectavoures. They eat bugs.
Have a look.

https://www.wildlifedepartment.com/wildlife/nongamespecies/birds/scissor-tailed-flycatcher

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Re: .25 vs house sparrows (viewer's discretion advised)
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2021, 09:19:08 AM »
That last bird looks like a Gold Finch to me ? Avoid them,  amazing what .25 does to small fluffy things  8) ;D

Scissor-tail flycatcher......beautiful birds! I usually have a breeding pair here every summer.

+1 on beautiful birds!

It's the state bird of Oklahoma.
I can remember seeing these from when I was 6 years old. It's in the king bird family.
These are insectavoures. They eat bugs.
Have a look.

https://www.wildlifedepartment.com/wildlife/nongamespecies/birds/scissor-tailed-flycatcher

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If I am not mistaken, they only come to Texas and Oklahoma for the summer breeding season.
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Re: .25 vs house sparrows (viewer's discretion advised)
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2021, 09:20:33 AM »
none look like house sparrows to me

That first one was so messed up from the shot, I couldn't tell at all.
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Re: .25 vs house sparrows (viewer's discretion advised)
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2021, 10:51:08 AM »
Alright thanks guys so breeding males are the only targets today. No females today just the dangerous ones.
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Re: .25 vs house sparrows (viewer's discretion advised)
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2021, 10:56:50 AM »
Alright thanks guys so breeding males are the only targets today. No females today just the dangerous ones.

They are both destructive. The only reason I only shoot females that are accompanied by a male is because the females look like some of the other sparrow species, and are also similar to female house finches, which I have here, and I don't want to shoot the wrong bird.
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Re: .25 vs house sparrows (viewer's discretion advised)
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2021, 11:35:46 AM »
Regarding the females, I use plenty of magnification to make out the distinctive white mark behind the eye.

And any time there is a choice between a male or a female house sparrow, the female is my target since the goal is to reduce the population as much as possible.
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Re: .25 vs house sparrows (viewer's discretion advised)
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2021, 12:02:13 PM »
Wow it's so windy today. I can't call my windage right not even on the .25. But I don't see any birds I like today so I wouldn't call it mission failed.
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Re: .25 vs house sparrows (viewer's discretion advised)
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2021, 12:50:08 AM »
I think the 3rd and maybe the 4th one you got looks to be a white crown sparrow though.

Picture #3 is definitely not a sparrow at all.   (OK, to be fair, house sparrows aren't actually sparrows, but at least they lLOOK like sparrows.)

And pic number 2 is most definitely two dead SONG sparrows.
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Identifying HOS's is pretty tough, especially the females,  but please try, guys.

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Re: .25 vs house sparrows (viewer's discretion advised)
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2021, 12:53:23 AM »
That second photo doesn't look to me like house sparrows. The male HS has a black "bib" on his chest. The female will typically be WITH the male. I don't normally shoot at any female unless she is accompanied by a male, since they look similar to a few other species.


Agreed,  the females are REALLY tough.

With the males, the one absolute identifier is the grey cap.  (A wide stripe of grey in-between brown on either side.)

Another way to tell both is by the pitch of their call.  They sound just like tree sparrows, except the pitch is maybe 3-4 steps lower.
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Re: .25 vs house sparrows (viewer's discretion advised)
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2021, 08:11:37 AM »


New to bird watching but I seen these aggressive little  birds swarm on the birds I really like. Like this one I seen today and I don't even know what it is.


That's a scissor tailed flycatcher. Love that bird. How lucky you are! I see them often at the aviary but not from my own back porch!

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