"Aim small, miss small"

[cactusrat]

you mean one like this?   http://air-ordnance.com/
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Yes, I have seen the SMG 22 before. I will buy one if someone would supply me with the lead. One tin (500 count) of pellets in about 40 seconds.

Yep, that's just what I need, like another hole in my head.

[lizzie]

I'll stick with my springers.

[z28rod]

I like the bb machine guns better, and alot cheaper to shoot many round with...

[Daysailer]

I found the Aim small  advice really helped me too.

Next is to try some of the GTA Shooting Matches.   
The bi-monthly, or so, matches give me an extra kick in the... to practice,  and
also help to document small improvement, or not, over time.

Today is the deadline for current matches.   try 'em,  they are fun.


http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php/board,66.0.html

[dpricenator]

I like the bb machine guns better, and alot cheaper to shoot many round with...

WOW, this brings back memories.  Quick story, well maybe not quick but here it is.

When I was younger, I live in AL, and we used our powder burners on a daily basis.  And we had a couple airguns, but good luck getting me to use one, when I had MY Anshutz .22, and many other guns available.  Anyway,  My brother and I were both Boy Scouts, and had a subscription to Boy’s Life magazine.  In the back you could order Blo-Guns, Sea monkeys, plans for  go-karts, AND  a fully automatic BB gun.  So in the beginning of Summer vaction we ordered the BB gun.  We had saved our money for a month or so and sent off for it.  6-8 weeks for processing is like a prison sentence to a 10 and 13 year old.   Before we got the gun, we had to keep saving money because we needed BB’s and Freon.  Yeah it ran off the cans of Freon you used to be able to buy at the auto parts store.  We rode the ATCs into town on day and bought about 30,000 copperhead BB’s.  The next week we went in and bought 5 cans of Freon.  The store manager asked why 2 kids needed 5 cans of Freon, and without blinking my brother said that our dad was fixing the cars, and had sent us.  So we walked out with a ton of Freon.  So with all of our BB’s and Freon hidden, we waited, and waited and waited.  We would run to the mailbox when the mail arrived, we would ask if anything had come for us.  For 2 months  NOTHING.  2 more weeks..NOTHING.  We had 2 weeks before school started again, and we still had not received our gun.  We were getting desperate.  Another week passed. We went back to school shopping, had our new clothes, all our supplies were set up in our book bags.  We were despondent to say the least.  So the last weekend before the first day of school, and my dad calls my brother and I in for a talk.  We had been good, so we figured no trouble, but something seemed off.   This is when he asked us Why we needed 5 cans of Freon.  I guess the auto parts manager had called my dad, to seeif all the repairs had gone well.  Needless to say, we were caught.  Not only were we caught, but we had been caught for more than a month.  While we tried to figure out our story, on the spot, My dad brought a box out from behind the desk.  Our gun had arrived the same day the auto parts guy called my dad.   Well he let us sweat it out for the whole summer, only to tell us that because we had lied to the Auto Parts guy, that he would be keeping the gun for himself, and that if we performed well in school for the 1st 6 weeks, he would let us shoot it.  Yeah my dad did not take to lying very well.  So 6 more weeks go by and we both did well.  We screwed on the can of Freon onto the gun, and dumped a 1000 BB tube of copperheads in the hopper.  My brother aimed at a small paper target we had set out about 30 feet.  Well he emptied the hopper, in about 35 seconds.  This thing spit BB’s at a rate that surprised my dad.  However, only about 20 of them hit the target.  LOL, no rifling in the barrel, and fast action left us with a very inconsistent very weak BB Sprayer.  But all was not lost, turns out we used it to chase chickens around the yard, you could hit a chicken at 10 feet and the BB would bounce off.  We used our BB’s and our Freon and never picked the gun up again. 

[lizzie]

Great story!

[send2r]

i take scrap sheets of paper and draw lines about 1 inch apart and shoot to split the line a couple of pages of shooting a vertical line and you would be surprised how small u miss and how easy it becomes to split the line then work on horizontal lines and repeat process. than when you sight on a rat they look as big as an elephant.

[aack73]

definitely true. lizzie i like to shoot the small shoot n c dots as well. i am always happy to hit one.

[SAADE]

Lizzie, congrats on the becoming a moderator.

Yes, aim small, miss small is the second best way to hit your target. In boot camp, I was told the best way to hit your target was to pour a lot of lead down range.

My long range (50+ yards) targets are half to one inch in size. For closer work, I like smaller targets, like match heads or whole grains of deer corn.

Still waiting for the fully  automatic, 1000 round, belt fed BB/pellet gun to come out.  What’s taking so long?

Go here and buy a SMG .22   http://modernsurvivalonline.com/belt-fed-22-caliber-full-auto-pellet-gun-cool/

[Singleshooter]

Been meaning to share this with you but just have not had the time.  Really appreciated this thread and the concept.  After reading it last week and kicking it around in my head it really got me to thinking.  Have a 16 year old son whom we relocated from Metro Atlanta to the small town life of Jasper, TN.  My ex just couldn't seem to keep up with what was going on with him at school and being a state away and seeing him every other weekend was just not enough to for me to be effective either.  Grades were flipping terrible and with two years of high shcool left we felt it our only option.  The amount of social activity here versus there is, well lets say, night and day.  As a result the two of us have been breaking out the AG's every chance we get and practicing on paper in anticipation of the Starling's return.  He has only the limited amount of basic firearms training I have given him and yet is quite a fine marksman.  Then I read this thread...

  Eric came home from school last Friday afternoon and after going over the school day and the daily chores I asked if he wanted to try something a little different for target practice.  I explained the Aim small, miss small idea and suggested we try paint balls on golf tee's in the back yard.  I finished up my work and he eagerly headed out to set up the course.  He came up with 6 stations of two targets each staggered at 15 to 35 yrds.  He was shooting the XL 1100 and I the Whisper.  I was to go 1st and we were going to alternate from there, each having to clear one target from each station.  Hitting the tee and not breaking the ball would count as a miss.  From previous sessions I knew the Gammo was a little off right but I had decided to try with it anyway.  Should have known better. I miss, he is up, nothing but paint.  I miss again, he is on the next station and does it again, perfect.  I take one more shot at the 15 yarder, another miss, and concede that we will both shoot the XL.  He on the other hand places his next shot finds the mark again.  3 for 3.  Long story short, I started hitting as well with the XL, not nearly as often as he did.  He took 8 shots and cleared all 6 of his targets without hitting one tee. 


  We continued shooting the course with scoring variations and he continued to impress. WE ahd a ball. 

I am so glad to have him leaving with us now and he is doing amazing at his new school. 

[dpricenator]

great news.  I am trying to get my wayward sould cousin into AGs  He loves killing rats, but i would him to concentrate a bit more on the whole picture. 

I was surprised the first time someone put a laying card up with just the edge facing us and we cut it in half on the 3rd shot. 

[aack73]

Been meaning to share this with you but just have not had the time.  Really appreciated this thread and the concept.  After reading it last week and kicking it around in my head it really got me to thinking.  Have a 16 year old son whom we relocated from Metro Atlanta to the small town life of Jasper, TN.  My ex just couldn't seem to keep up with what was going on with him at school and being a state away and seeing him every other weekend was just not enough to for me to be effective either.  Grades were flipping terrible and with two years of high shcool left we felt it our only option.  The amount of social activity here versus there is, well lets say, night and day.  As a result the two of us have been breaking out the AG's every chance we get and practicing on paper in anticipation of the Starling's return.  He has only the limited amount of basic firearms training I have given him and yet is quite a fine marksman.  Then I read this thread...

  Eric came home from school last Friday afternoon and after going over the school day and the daily chores I asked if he wanted to try something a little different for target practice.  I explained the Aim small, miss small idea and suggested we try paint balls on golf tee's in the back yard.  I finished up my work and he eagerly headed out to set up the course.  He came up with 6 stations of two targets each staggered at 15 to 35 yrds.  He was shooting the XL 1100 and I the Whisper.  I was to go 1st and we were going to alternate from there, each having to clear one target from each station.  Hitting the tee and not breaking the ball would count as a miss.  From previous sessions I knew the Gammo was a little off right but I had decided to try with it anyway.  Should have known better. I miss, he is up, nothing but paint.  I miss again, he is on the next station and does it again, perfect.  I take one more shot at the 15 yarder, another miss, and concede that we will both shoot the XL.  He on the other hand places his next shot finds the mark again.  3 for 3.  Long story short, I started hitting as well with the XL, not nearly as often as he did.  He took 8 shots and cleared all 6 of his targets without hitting one tee. 


  We continued shooting the course with scoring variations and he continued to impress. WE ahd a ball. 

I am so glad to have him leaving with us now and he is doing amazing at his new school. 

Great to hear you guys having some quality time and he is doing better in school.

i'm a really competitive person myself and i don't "let" my kids win anything. i make them earn it. unfortunately my soon to be 7yr old in a couple of weeks can almost out shoot me. She is pretty good. sounds like your in the same boat.

[lizzie]

Singleshooter- WOW! What a great story to hear about your son- congrats to you and to him. Thanks for sharing. I really think that if more kids were given this kind of parent-kid time and taught to do something that requires concentration and has a reward of feeling good about one's skills, the world would be a better place. Kudos to you guys!

[Addictedtoair]

Hey Lizzie, I've been an advocate of the "Aim Small, Miss Small" practice for some time. Here is a practice "Bug" target shot at 25 yards and the next one is my practice target for this current Steroid 15 PCP Bench match. The targets looked huge after shooting life size flies and mosquitoes! I got 144 out of 150 for my practice target.

Brett

[lizzie]

Wow Brett- that's great!