Help a newbie with a gen 2 Fortitude

[Spook24]

Ok I have settled on getting a gen 2 fortitude as soon as I can find one in stock.   I plan to get a 22 caliber as I will mostly just punch paper and squirrel hunt with it.  Was going to get a marauder but decided the lighter weight fortitude would be better. 

A couple of quick questions.   I shot my buddies gen 1 fortitude and the trigger is really bad.  I have read that the baker trigger won’t work on the gen 2.   Will the gen 2 marauder trigger part 1763A105 work on the gen 2 fortitude?

Also will a discover Wood stock fit the gen 2 fortitude and if so anyone know of a place that sells them? 

Finally any other upgrades or things you guys would recommend.    I am used to shooting 22 bench rest rifles and love to tinker with them.   But these pcp guns are new to me.  I ordered a Chinese pump and think it will be fine for now.   Any help is greatly appreciated. 

[FuzzyGrub]

I have asked Baker what the issue is, but they didn't provide any more detail than "It won't work".   I even discussed with John (crosman_engineer) and he confirmed there was no trigger change from G1 or the Disco.  Maybe the lighter spring cause some issue with it? 

The trigger in G2 is better, mainly from the softer hammer spring.

Yes, the challenger/mrod G1 trigger works with the G2 Fortitude.  You will have to use the Challenger trigger guard or make your own. 

The disco stock will work, along with any of Boyd's inletted for Disco.  The crosman part number is 1761-103.  Crosman is the best place to try, but you have to call and talk to customer service. 

[Marquette]

If you are used to shooting .22 benchrest I suggest skipping the Baker trigger. Go directly to a Challenger trigger group. With the trigger guard it’s about $65 from Crosman.  It’s a true match grade trigger.  Requires minor stock mod to fit but simple to do. 

[bear air]

Given a chance to hit the "do over" button I would have to pass on the Fortitude.

[Spook24]

I have asked Baker what the issue is, but they didn't provide any more detail than "It won't work".   I even discussed with John (crosman_engineer) and he confirmed there was no trigger change from G1 or the Disco.  Maybe the lighter spring cause some issue with it? 

The trigger in G2 is better, mainly from the softer hammer spring.

Yes, the challenger/mrod G1 trigger works with the G2 Fortitude.  You will have to use the Challenger trigger guard or make your own. 

The disco stock will work, along with any of Boyd's inletted for Disco.  The crosman part number is 1761-103.  Crosman is the best place to try, but you have to call and talk to customer service.

Do I want to order the trigger for the gen 1 or gen 2 marauder for a gen 2 fortitude?

[Spook24]

Given a chance to hit the "do over" button I would have to pass on the Fortitude.

What do you not like about the fortitude?  I am looking for something light to carry and hunt with and to just plink with

[FuzzyGrub]

Do I want to order the trigger for the gen 1 or gen 2 marauder for a gen 2 fortitude?

You want the Gen 1 Mrod / Challenger trigger assy.  You have the correct part number.

I would not pre-order any parts.  Wait until you receive a Fortitude and like it before ordering.

The one thing I caution potential Fortitude owners on, is make sure the power level (16fpe) is to your satisfaction.  Getting more out of it, is not easily accomplished. 

While not regulated, also consider the Prod which has about the same power.  It is light and short, and makes a great little carbine. 

FWIW: There is not much difference between a Gen 1 and Gen 2 Fortitude.  The G2 has a softer hammer spring and an adjuster.  The G2 has a specific reg vent hole and other tube changes to make assembly easier with less chance of leaks.   A few other minor differences. 

[Spook24]

Ok.  When I Google that part number it comes up as a gen 2 marauder trigger.  So I need to find a gen 1 marauder trigger

[FuzzyGrub]

Ok.  When I Google that part number it comes up as a gen 2 marauder trigger.  So I need to find a gen 1 marauder trigger

Well, google is wrong.       1763 is the gen 1 mrod.  Gen 2 specific part numbers would have a 1764.   

If you get a G2 trigger assy, the mounting screws will not align to the holes on the Fortitude tube, and sear engagement is in the wrong location. 

[Spook24]

Ok.  When I Google that part number it comes up as a gen 2 marauder trigger.  So I need to find a gen 1 marauder trigger

Thank you so much.  I really appreciate it.  That is exactly why I was asking here
Well, google is wrong.       1763 is the gen 1 mrod.  Gen 2 specific part numbers would have a 1764.   

If you get a G2 trigger assy, the mounting screws will not align to the holes on the Fortitude tube, and sear engagement is in the wrong location.

[mobilehomer]

Straight from the Challenger EVP

29 1763A105 Trigger Assembly (pg. 4) 1

Additional parts are

19 CH2009‐031 Trigger Guard 1
20 CH2009‐017 Screw, Trigger Guard 1

[null]

I love my Fortitude Gen 2 box stock. I've got thousands of rounds through it with no issues.

I don't like the MROD as much since I got my Fortitude.

I've got a lot of different (and expensive) airguns to play with, and my Fortitude is still my go-to.

Sometimes it's not about the price of what folks have to say, it's up to you if you like the gun or not...

[Spook24]

I think the fortitude will be perfect for me to be light enough to carry and hunt with.  I have seen some really good accuracy reports with some of them.  Now if I can just find one in stock. 

[Marquette]

The Fortitude and Maximus are very similar guns weight wise.  My Maximus with Marauder trigger, Hawke 2-7x32 and GEO LDC weighs 6 lb. 10 oz just to give you an idea of weight ready to hunt or plink.

[mwgm2020]

Before you change out the whole trigger group, try changing the trigger spring out for a ballpoint pen spring.  Makes a huge difference.  That way you can shot the gun for a while, see if there are any issues, and still get repairs under warranty if something goes bad by changing the spring back.

The disco stock is supposed to fit the Fortitude.   

My fortitude is my favorite gun to shoot.  It is accurate, quiet, light, has a decent shot count, and is just plain old fun to shoot.  It is not a powerhouse, but in .22 will handle most small game inside 50 yards.  Mine likes the Hades, JSB 15.89's, 18.13's, and loves the FX hybrid 22-grain slugs, the FX shoot one hole at 25 yards.  You won't get much hollowpoint deformation, but better BC lets them carry energy further.  CHCP's shoot just OK in my gun and I use them as a standard for testing and plinking pellet.

[null]

Speaking of slugs in a stock Fortitude Gen II -- My gun likes NSA slugs in .217. I run 17.5gr slugs and the expansion and accuracy is phenomenal. I've had my best shot groups over 100 yards with those slugs.

One thing I really like about the Fortitude over the MROD, is the design of the trigger (except for the pull force). It's setup like a typical rifle with a push button safety. The MROD has the lever style safety that I don't like. Not to mention it's regulated and user adjustable without voiding a warranty (unless you slow it down without depressurizing it first!).

I want to buy another one and modify it with a custom barrel, trigger group, etc. Just for fun. My box stock one is just the way I like it.

[Rick67]

I like this rifle as well.

Gonna get one in .177, when they become available again, and give it some bling 

I think a LW barrel will make this rifle shine even more   

[bear air]

I put the Crosman marauder LW match grade barrel on mine and it shoots great out to 35-40 yards. I lost a little velocity with the barrel swap but that wasn't too big of issue. I was then able to put some extra baffles in and quiet it up even more.

[Rick67]

I put the Crosman marauder LW match grade barrel on mine and it shoots great out to 35-40 yards. I lost a little velocity with the barrel swap but that wasn't too big of issue. I was then able to put some extra baffles in and quiet it up even more.

A Challenger barrel should also work with a bit of a mod.

I only have 2 Crosman LW barrels, but they are pellet on pellet accurate.

[Spook24]

How much fitting is required for a lothar Walther barrel to be fitted to a fortitude. 


You guys keep saying how nice these fortitudes are and it is making waiting on one to be available a lot worse lol