Diana 34 EMS

[HectorMedina]

How much different do you expect the 34 gas piston to be compared to your 340 N-tec?

Ron

Ron,

Problem is that there are TWO pistons in an NTec gun:
The piston inside the gas spring
The compression piston of the airgun itself.

The NTec unit is the NTec unit, and the piston is the same for both models NTec and EMS.

What the EMS has, that the NTec doesn't have is the compound linkage.

HTH



HM

[HectorMedina]

If the 34 EMS is a joy to shoot like my 340 N-Tec, I'm thinking about getting one.  a .177 for FT Hunter class, and a .22 for hunting.
Beware the man with one gun....yea, I like that!

-Y

The 34EMS in the Classic stock is a bit lighter than the 340 NTec, so you do need to take this into account.

It takes LESS effort to cock, but it weighs less.

Nothing that a custom stock won't cure, ROFL!

Keep well and shoot straight!







HM

[thompsje]

Hector,

Can you speak about the synthetic stock EMS?  According to the specs on PA, the synthetic stock EMS is actually heavier than the beech option *and* has some adjustability.  It's just a shame it's so ugly.    but if there is some solidity and heft to it, it might be a step up from most other synthetics.   Most of them I have owned, I fill with expanding foam to deaden them.

Thank you.

[Yogi]

If the 34 EMS is a joy to shoot like my 340 N-Tec, I'm thinking about getting one.  a .177 for FT Hunter class, and a .22 for hunting.
Beware the man with one gun....yea, I like that!

-Y

The 34EMS in the Classic stock is a bit lighter than the 340 NTec, so you do need to take this into account.

It takes LESS effort to cock, but it weighs less.

Nothing that a custom stock won't cure, ROFL!

Keep well and shoot straight!

HM

Hector funny you should mention custom stocks.  I just e-mailed Custom Stocks in the UK.  They said that they do not have inletting for any Diana models.
CS stocks seem about the cheapest semi-custom stocks around.  Unless, OEM hogsback stocks become available in walnut.  I think some EMS buys would want an "affordable" nice stock.
I do not know if CS uses a Cad-Cam file or a blank? 

-Y

[HectorMedina]

Hector,

Can you speak about the synthetic stock EMS?  According to the specs on PA, the synthetic stock EMS is actually heavier than the beech option *and* has some adjustability.  It's just a shame it's so ugly.    but if there is some solidity and heft to it, it might be a step up from most other synthetics.   Most of them I have owned, I fill with expanding foam to deaden them.

Thank you.

Jeff;

There are three "problems" to Synthetic stocks:
1.- They are NOT TRULY WEATHERPROOF. Some of them absorb moisture. DIANA spent a number of years waiting for the right polymer to come along, and then the right moulding process. They are better than wood in that sense because they do not WARP, but some of them (not DIANA's)  absorb moisture and change their mass/weight, which in a piston airgun creates very peculiar POI changes.
2.- They FLEX. As "illogical" as it may seem, a thin section of wood flexes less than a thin section of synthetics. And airgun stocks have plenty of parts that are thin sections. USUALLY, wood stocks are designed "beefier" and so, in many ways, they are more "rigid".
3.- Because they are hollow, many shooters think they are noisy. That is not completely true, but it is a valid perception, especially for those of us that are "hard of hearing", in MANY cases, as a result of our shooting.
Sound gets transmitted, and amplified, by the hollows in the synthetic stock, which does not happen in a beech one.

DIANA stocks, neither absorb moisture, nor flex. They ARE heavier because we like them to feel solid. They do have large hollow sections because a solid synthetic stock would weigh as much as the whole rifle itself.

WE may think the synthetic stocks look ugly, but the rest of the world perceives them as "Ergo-Euro design". So, I do not see any room there for a change.

Consider that these are $5,000 to $15,000 guns worldwide:





See the family resemblance?

AFAIK, this initial synthetic offering is not adjustable. There may be a version that has an adjustable cheek-piece in the future, but AFAIK, this one is not it yet.

One more thing that should be observed when choosing the stock of your 34 EMS:
the wood stock has a hard plastic buttplate.

Keep well and shoot straight!





HM

[thompsje]

Thanks Hector!    I had looked at this image and assumed that the gap implied that there was some sort of adjustability to the cheek piece (since they had that on the AM03, so why not?).   This rifle is a tough call... it has potential and it looks like so many things may be coming - but it might not get the base model off the ground.   

[WyoRiv]

Well, I took the plunge.  Should be here tomorrow.  Originally I was saving my pennies for a HW95 in .22, but then this came along.  $100 less and in stock, so I figured “why not.”  I like the fiber optic open sights.  Two things I’m interested in is getting a gas piston for it, and possibly a moderator for noise reduction. 

[Denby95]

Well, I took the plunge.  Should be here tomorrow.  Originally I was saving my pennies for a HW95 in .22, but then this came along.  $100 less and in stock, so I figured “why not.”  I like the fiber optic open sights.  Two things I’m interested in is getting a gas piston for it, and possibly a moderator for noise reduction.

100 bucks less? Prices I've seen for the EMS were 399.99. Prices for the HW95 are 420.00.

Regardless, interested to see some first hand impressions. Hope you enjoy it!

[WyoRiv]

$379 at Pyramyd, minus 10% GTA code made it about $340.  Biggest factor was that it was in stock.  If the HW95 Luxus was in stock ($440) I might have gotten that instead. 

[jusanothajoe]

$379 at Pyramyd, minus 10% GTA code made it about $340.  Biggest factor was that it was in stock.  If the HW95 Luxus was in stock ($440) I might have gotten that instead.

Please give us a report when you get your EMS.

[HectorMedina]

Thanks Hector!    I had looked at this image and assumed that the gap implied that there was some sort of adjustability to the cheek piece (since they had that on the AM03, so why not?).   This rifle is a tough call... it has potential and it looks like so many things may be coming - but it might not get the base model off the ground.

The AM03 was a great learning experience for us. It did work up to a point, but it did need some improvements.

When the new PCP's are released, you will see.

;-)

Keep well and shoot straight!





HM

[Denby95]

$379 at Pyramyd, minus 10% GTA code made it about $340.  Biggest factor was that it was in stock.  If the HW95 Luxus was in stock ($440) I might have gotten that instead.

Correction. I saw you were after .22.

Not sure what caliber you're after but the Hw95 Luxus in .177 is in stock at AOA. And no tax.
https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/spring-piston/weihrauch-hw95-luxus/

As is the normal HW95 . https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/spring-piston/weihrauch-hw95/

No .22 at the moment though.

[WyoRiv]

Had a little time to play with it, but I need a little more....

So far it’s pretty good, 150 or so pellets through it.  Feels good in the hand, well balanced, I like the sights.  Obviously harder to cock than my HW30, and even a touch harder than my gamo Swarm Maxim, but I could still see long backyard sessions being easy on the arms.   Not as smooth of a cocking stroke as those either.  Hopefully that changes as it breaks in.  Noise is pretty tame, right in the middle of the other two.  So far the HW30 is my fave. I’ll report back on accuracy after I try a couple different pellets.

I don’t have a ton of air guns or experience with them, but I’m getting on board with popping a couple shots out my back door when the mood hits.

[HectorMedina]

Good!

In a way, it's natural. There is no magic. The power level at the muzzle will  dictate a lot of what needs to happen inside the gun.

Once you get the EMS settled in, do adjust the trigger and look for the best pellet. In the end, hunting with airguns is an exercise in precision and accuracy, not power.

Since the Swarm and the EMS yield, in real life, about the same power levels, it will be an interesting contrast.

Keep us posted!



HM

[A moron]

Had a little time to play with it, but I need a little more....

So far it’s pretty good, 150 or so pellets through it.  Feels good in the hand, well balanced, I like the sights.  Obviously harder to cock than my HW30, and even a touch harder than my gamo Swarm Maxim, but I could still see long backyard sessions being easy on the arms.   Not as smooth of a cocking stroke as those either.  Hopefully that changes as it breaks in.  Noise is pretty tame, right in the middle of the other two.  So far the HW30 is my fave. I’ll report back on accuracy after I try a couple different pellets.

I don’t have a ton of air guns or experience with them, but I’m getting on board with popping a couple shots out my back door when the mood hits.

Could I ask for a picture of the breach,?

One from the top like your looking down the barrel( where you put the pellet in) and one from the side (left). Looks like a screw to maybe service the breach latch?

I do like they got a way from the ball bearing on the hat model (opinion)

[L4z4r0s]

Fast forward today, does anyone have experience with the EMS? If so, how do you like it? (I know I'm reviving an old topic but this seems to be the mega thread for the 34 EMS).

[SSG Grampo]

I also would be interested in reviews,  The synthetic stock version in .22 cal is on sale now at PA for $249 w/free shipping. Limited time sale, not sure when it ends.

[L4z4r0s]

The EMS seems like a promising new take on the classic 34. Very few reviews have been out until now however... maybe that'll change?

[HectorMedina]

Tino;

There are a couple of reasons why you do not see too many reviews, but the main one is that people are too busy shooting them!

;-)

I've shipped 9 of them and almost every shooter has been happy. The exception was a shooter that was convinced that the NTec version would be more efficient. He was disabused real quick.
Others that have asked for NTec versions knowingly, are very happy.

SO, you will have to wait, hopefully with winter setting in, some of them will write something.

Keep well and shoot straight!







HM

[Pierze]

Greetings
 
I purchased the Diana 34 EMS with the thumb hole synthetic stock and when it arrived 2 days ago it was -10  here in the Twin Cities area.  When I opened the box I watched it slowly change to a dull white color as the metal started to completely in case its self in ice.   All I could do was wait for it to melt and wipe it down as quickly as possible and that's what I did.  After seeing it freeze and thaw I knew that it got wet under the wood line (plastic) so as soon as it was warmed up I tried to take the stock off so I could get to the spots under the stock.  The 34 EMS in synthetic  mounts differently than any other 34 that I have seen.  Instead of the two large straight blade screws on either side it has two tiny 3mm allen headed screws that go in at a 45 degree angle. The trouble is that they are very soft and im not sure if they used locktite but those things are not going to back out easily.  Has anyone had any luck removing the stock from one of these new versions? Its supposed to be "easy" but would beg to differ.  I wish they used bigger fasteners than those dinky little allen heads.