verdict on springers=====================

[lefteyeshot]

The beauty of simplicity, a springer.

[Struckat]

It depends in part on what you do with your guns.

Hog hunting is not a job for a HW98. For my use a little springer is all I need.
I do intend to buy a pcp one day, but the investment doesn’t make sense for me at this point. And I know I wouldn’t be satisfied with a $300 pcp.

I will stick to springers and I am fine being behind the times.

I have two HW now, and my only other was a Gamo Varmint Hunter that I bought
10-15 years ago. I gave it to #2 son last spring.
He brought it over a week ago for cleaning. The cleaning was a plot by me and his brother for Christmas. I cleaned it and put a new scope on it, a gift from #1 son.
I also tarred up the spring which limited the awful noise the thing makes.

With the tar and scope it’s become almost shootable. I managed 3/4” at 10m rested.
I still hate that gun.

But I don’t learn and have been eying refurbs on the Hatsan site.
I want an overpowered $50 gun to tinker with, thanks Lt. Dan.

[Nomadic Pirate]

Springers are nice toys,
I love my springers ( for what they are ) but they are extremely limited so they cover that little fraction of the spectrum.

Naw!

I know you'd love to own a good springer!

If you really want to do some brick destroying get one of Hector's D54 .20s!  That's a nice springer!  That springer takes a Man to shoot!

Then there are the less powerful springers say HW95s like I have one by the door (it is the "killer" rifle for tree squirrels in my yard--not any other scoped or unscoped rifle; using AA Express .177s).

Then, as I notice your loyalty to what works in your home, you need a COLLECTION of HW95s!  Which would be just a .177 and a .22!

BUT!

If you really want to explore the whole kit and caboodle of the spectrum (thin or wide) of spring-air rifles then "just end it and get a 98" in ALL calibers!

I was shooting my Daystate Huntsman .177 today and it is LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT compared to the HW98s!

I shot all of my HW98s today and they are all doing what they do with the aplomb and glory!

 

Nope,

The only springer I would want is a .177 around 12 FPE and that is the slice of the spectrum that it will fill for me, I had a ton of springers and I figured what I want in the end.

One day I will get me a High end .177 @ 12 FPE springer

[Ike the GSD]

My spring piston rifles get orders of magnitude more use than the one PCP rifle I own and for the work I need to do with them they're more than adequate. I don't understand the comments stating that spring piston rifles are "old technology", there is a reason for their longevity and while you can't achieve the power with them that you can with certain PCP rifles they are very useful tools.

[nced]

My spring piston rifles get orders of magnitude more use than the one PCP rifle I own and for the work I need to do with them they're more than adequate. I don't understand the comments stating that spring piston rifles are "old technology", there is a reason for their longevity and while you can't achieve the power with them that you can with certain PCP rifles they are very useful tools.

"spring piston rifles are "old technology"

LOL.......PCPs are really old technology since Lewis and Clark's secret weapon was a .46 caliber Girandoni air rifle.......
https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/2016/12/13/lewis-and-clarks-girandoni-air-rifle/

[A moron]

My spring piston rifles get orders of magnitude more use than the one PCP rifle I own and for the work I need to do with them they're more than adequate. I don't understand the comments stating that spring piston rifles are "old technology", there is a reason for their longevity and while you can't achieve the power with them that you can with certain PCP rifles they are very useful tools.

"spring piston rifles are "old technology"

LOL.......PCPs are really old technology since Lewis and Clark's secret weapon was a .46 caliber Girandoni air rifle.......
https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/2016/12/13/lewis-and-clarks-girandoni-air-rifle/

Did they give a pic of the hand pump they used to air it up?

[nced]

My spring piston rifles get orders of magnitude more use than the one PCP rifle I own and for the work I need to do with them they're more than adequate. I don't understand the comments stating that spring piston rifles are "old technology", there is a reason for their longevity and while you can't achieve the power with them that you can with certain PCP rifles they are very useful tools.

"spring piston rifles are "old technology"

LOL.......PCPs are really old technology since Lewis and Clark's secret weapon was a .46 caliber Girandoni air rifle.......
https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/2016/12/13/lewis-and-clarks-girandoni-air-rifle/

Did they give a pic of the hand pump they used to air it up?

Perhaps this will be of interest...........

[A moron]

My spring piston rifles get orders of magnitude more use than the one PCP rifle I own and for the work I need to do with them they're more than adequate. I don't understand the comments stating that spring piston rifles are "old technology", there is a reason for their longevity and while you can't achieve the power with them that you can with certain PCP rifles they are very useful tools.

"spring piston rifles are "old technology"

LOL.......PCPs are really old technology since Lewis and Clark's secret weapon was a .46 caliber Girandoni air rifle.......
https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/2016/12/13/lewis-and-clarks-girandoni-air-rifle/

Did they give a pic of the hand pump they used to air it up?

Perhaps this will be of interest...........

Thanks nced,. I was and I did.

[lefteyeshot]

I have seen articles and pics of air rifles from back in the day that could be converted to shoot ball and powder.

[A moron]

I have seen articles and pics of air rifles from back in the day that could be converted to shoot ball and powder.

Maybe why like Gamo requires you to have a fed firearms license just to buy a simple part for there stuff.   Just a piston seal converts there air gun to a full auto assault weapon of mass destruction


You think the basic ain't changed much from n then to now .

[Ribbonstone]

By nature,springers are "simple"...grab a rifle and pellets,and you are ready to go.

Multi pump pneumatics....single stroke pneumatics are as well....just not nearly as popular now as they once were.

Got to love the simple nature of springers....which seems Amish to me. It is low tech,(spring/seal...that's about it for functioning) and human powered.

You can't make compressed/liquid co2 at home.
You got to work at it/use an external source of compressed air...which kind of voids the "simple nature".

Those three (MSP/SSP/Springers) are the "self contained" airguns...and of them.the springer is the simplest.

So from either  really being devoted to simple, or just perfering simple for specific uses....am thinking Mennoite/Hutterite/Quaket/Amish/etc.

Probalby more Mennonite (who aren't opposed to some modern things)..but no one "knows" that label nearly as well as a "Amish" (which is actually more of a cover-all-bases term).

For all the folks who's religious affliataions I've insulted....ya'll really should get all that "snit" more commonly defined.

[Horatio]

If you get an HW98 your recoil is soaked up by the extra weight of the rifle--saving your scope better than a "light" springer vibrating and bouncing like they do.
There's a Bushnell 4-12X Trophy on the HW95L .25 in ZR and a Leupold 4.5-14X on the HW98 .25 without ZR mounts.  The recoil O rings on the HW98s are less than on the HW95Ls (the zr o rings on rails show extent of recoil).

So if you want to start with a GOOD springer like the HW98 the fears of breaking scopes and breaking springs is over.  Think thousands of shots instead of a few hundred when shooting the 98.

Simplest physics tuning trick? Add weight to any gun that recoils.

[Deerstalker]

My HW95L with a Hawke 4-16 x 44mm scope.  Excellent combo and enjoy shooting this rifle.  Merry Christmas to all and stay safe.

[K.O.]

Can shoot twangers and have...but they are just not for me... pumping does not bother me at all... Bonded with pumpers 50 or so years ago and it just stayed that way...

[Ike the GSD]

I'd like to modify my original post regarding springers and say that I hate them. I think I hate pcp's too at this point.😡