DAR Gen II is now available

[Firewalker]

I finally got a shipping label for the DAR, I sent it back, the new one is shooting OK but no laser. I'm expecting a DAR .25 in return but should I or should I go for the xcisco?

[singleshotcajun]

Nothing back from DAR yet on this end. Don’t have time to fret over it for the tropics have frozen. Been living here near Galveston island for nineteen years and got use to the tropics. Now it’s weather in the teens and no power, no heat. Thank God for a roof ,walls
and Wall’s insulated coveralls .

[crazyhorse1]

Got an RMA number via e-mail...shipping DAR tomorrow.

[RDB]

Got an RMA number via e-mail...shipping DAR tomorrow.

Why she going back Rich?

[crazyhorse1]

Got an RMA number via e-mail...shipping DAR tomorrow.

Why she going back Rich?

First it was clipping and I was thinking of fixing that but when the leak started I decided to go warranty route as new o rings were mentioned here.

Rich

[Dan H]

My .22 and .25 DAR guns are still working great dead accurate , both guns are capable of 1 hole 3 shot groups at 50 yards ....

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

My .22 DAR is still working perfectly also, the trigger work made a huge improvement to it! 

[avator]

My .25 is awesome. All I did was lower the reg setting and slightly back off the HS. I will most likely do some trigger work but I don't find it bad at all as it is.

[crazyhorse1]

Maybe I got Gen 1 1/2 . lol

[Dan H]

Maybe I got Gen 1 1/2 . lol

   Maybe they could fix it ,and sell it back to you as a refurb for half price .... making it a full gen 2 

[Firewalker]

That's on my list right after lunch, I am still getting a little crunch right before letoff. The barrel/shroud swap has yielded sub-par results in the accuracy department for me so I will dump a tin of CPHP's through it to season it and see if it improves.

My .22 DAR is still working perfectly also, the trigger work made a huge improvement to it!

[Firewalker]

I sure could use some instruction as to how one goes about changing the reg settings. I would like to 'turn it down' some for better accuracy.

Once the .25 comes in, I am going to hot-rod it for max hitting power (FPE) while still being as accurate as I can get it. That one will be the hunter while the .22 is going to punch paper and kill cans!   

My .25 is awesome. All I did was lower the reg setting and slightly back off the HS. I will most likely do some trigger work but I don't find it bad at all as it is.

[avator]

I sure could use some instruction as to how one goes about changing the reg settings. I would like to 'turn it down' some for better accuracy.

Once the .25 comes in, I am going to hot-rod it for max hitting power (FPE) while still being as accurate as I can get it. That one will be the hunter while the .22 is going to punch paper and kill cans!   

My .25 is awesome. All I did was lower the reg setting and slightly back off the HS. I will most likely do some trigger work but I don't find it bad at all as it is.

Well, after further review.... I lied. I have too many dang guns to remember what I did from one to the next.
The only thing I did to my DAR .25 was make some HS adjustments.
It was the Avenger that I adjusted the Reg on..... my bad.

[RDB]

I sure could use some instruction as to how one goes about changing the reg settings. I would like to 'turn it down' some for better accuracy.

Once the .25 comes in, I am going to hot-rod it for max hitting power (FPE) while still being as accurate as I can get it. That one will be the hunter while the .22 is going to punch paper and kill cans!   

My .25 is awesome. All I did was lower the reg setting and slightly back off the HS. I will most likely do some trigger work but I don't find it bad at all as it is.

Degas the rifle. Unscrew the tube from the valve. Plenum spacer will fall right out. Unscrew the fill port assembly and use a dowl or cleaning rod to push the reg out. All should be only hand tight and easy to get apart.

With reg in hand, turn the adjustment screw in around 1/8th turn, or flush to the top. Should give you around 90-100 bar and keep 14 grain ammo at 900fps or below. You will probably have to trim a coil or two off the hammer spring as to not over drive it and waste air.

[Firewalker]

SAWEET!!  Thank you for the info. Any chance there are pictures? 

I sure could use some instruction as to how one goes about changing the reg settings. I would like to 'turn it down' some for better accuracy.

Once the .25 comes in, I am going to hot-rod it for max hitting power (FPE) while still being as accurate as I can get it. That one will be the hunter while the .22 is going to punch paper and kill cans!   

My .25 is awesome. All I did was lower the reg setting and slightly back off the HS. I will most likely do some trigger work but I don't find it bad at all as it is.

Degas the rifle. Unscrew the tube from the valve. Plenum spacer will fall right out. Unscrew the fill port assembly and use a dowl or cleaning rod to push the reg out. All should be only hand tight and easy to get apart.

With reg in hand, turn the adjustment screw in around 1/8th turn, or flush to the top. Should give you around 90-100 bar and keep 14 grain ammo at 900fps or below. You will probably have to trim a coil or two off the hammer spring as to not over drive it and waste air.

[RDB]

Here's the reg. These two pieces will be assembled together.  I just took them apart to tear it down.

[Firewalker]

Mama's Bandit developed a leak and I got sent out to fix that first. I will have to dig into the reg, spring and trigger tomorrow on the DAR.

Thanks for the help!!!!!!

[Firewalker]

Turns out the DAR is pretty darn easy to take apart and put back together. The reg was easy to remove and adjust and assembly was pretty fast as well. Just a few tiny issues became obvious as I finished assembly and tried to pump it back up. I did turn the reg screw in until it was flush with the regulator end face, it also has 12.7 written on it. Does anybody know what this signifies?

-As others have experienced, the bleed screw over the ball bearing has to be much tighter that you would think. I had to put just a little more torque on the screw than I wanted to to get the ball to seat all the way.

-Once you degas the tube, the poppet opens at about 150 psi (in my gun) so upon refilling the gun, I just hit it with my shop air compressor.... Nope, not this time! Instead, I took a small leather hammer and while pumping the tube up, I gave a small but sharp smack to the hammer spring back plate and that seated the poppet with just a few pounds in the reservoir. 

[Firewalker]

Just checked on it.... empty, sigh. Too tired tonight to leak-check it, I gonna bet money on the de-gassing screw though.

[HunterWhite]

The 12.7 is likely Megapascals.
In the U.S. we use PSI,
Europeans may use pascal( Pa), kilopascals (kPa) or  Megapascal (MPa) or they may use Bar.
Bar is one unit of barometric pressure,  14.5 psi iirc.

1 megapascal =145.038 pounds per square inch

12.7 Megapascal = 1858 psi = 127 bar.

I don't know about your regulator, but my regulator you turn it counterclockwise to increase pressure.

Hunter