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Re: What is a good 10 meter Air Pistol for Target Shooting
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2021, 08:06:58 PM »
Alan, how far are you from Toledo, Ohio  ?
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Re: What is a good 10 meter Air Pistol for Target Shooting
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2021, 09:20:39 PM »
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Re: What is a good 10 meter Air Pistol for Target Shooting
« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2021, 01:24:14 AM »
Thanks for the feedback.  As of now, I am assuming that the accuracy would not degrade with a little more speed, but if it did I would back it down.  And also as of now, the pistol is just short of infinitely more accurate than I am.  I am making some slow and steady progress (maybe "very slow" is more accurate).  While I am enjoying the journey, I joked with a friend that as far as my results on paper go, I have some bad days and then I have some horrible days . . . .  ;)

The targets that tear are the official competition B-40 10M air pistol ones - not ones I print myself.  The results get a bit better if I put some masking tape on the back, and really good if I tape one of the square Gamo or AirVenturi "cardboardish" targets to the back of the official targets, although that is a bit of pain to do on every target.  For most of my practice right now I am using the Gamo and AirVenturi targets, as those do produce very clean holes.

Thanks again!

Patience.
The learning slope is long and shallow.  It takes a long time to improve.
My former AR coach told me that you have to practice 5x a week to improve.  3x just maintains your level.
And as you get better, the slope get shallower.  Each additional 10 points takes a LOT more work.

Trick:  My AR coach told me, as I was learning, to IGNORE the scores.  Just select a ring and score the target as 0/1.    Example,  when I first started, I used the 1-ring.  0 outside the 1 ring, +1 inside the 1 ring.  Then as I got better and could hold the 1-ring, I moved in a ring.  And kept repeating that until I think I got to the 7 or 8 ring.
What he was teaching me, was to shoot a group, a tighter and tighter group.  If you can hold a group, your scores will follow.  Because if you shoot a flyer out into the 1-ring, it will take an awful lot of 10s to get your score back up.

Keep record when you shoot; time of day, temp, weather, how you feel, score, how well or bad you shot, comments, etc.  Use that data to help you improve.
Example I found that even though I am NOT a morning person, I shot my best scores in the morning.

As for targets, for MANY years there have been complaints about targets printed by some of the US target companies.
The issue apparently is the paper that the target printers were/are using.  Long fiber paper.  Which I guess is cheaper, and what they use for center fire and rim fire powder burner targets.  Besides, you won't get a clean hole from a pointed rifle bullet anyway.

I would do as Charlie suggested, put the B40 target FLAT against the cardboard backer.
I use masking tape to hold my target to the backer.
As you shoot away the backer, there is no support for the target, so you have to move the target over a different part of the backer, or replace the backer.

Kruger targets are more expensive, but reportedly cut nice holes.
http://www.pilkguns.com/store/10m-Air-Pistol-Targets-Kruger-250-count-p84747405
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Re: What is a good 10 meter Air Pistol for Target Shooting
« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2021, 03:21:43 PM »
AC12,

Thanks for all that - lots of great advise there, some of which I am following, but other bits I need to start doing.  So far I have just been working to keep all the shots in the black, and I only have successfully done it on one ten shot card.  I just need to keep reminding myself to expect the progress to be slow.

And I will certainly get some of the Kruger targets to see how those work for me.  But I guess if I am honest with myself, the tearing is a minor issue until my shooting improves enough to get to a small enough group that I start scoring the targets.  ;)
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Re: What is a good 10 meter Air Pistol for Target Shooting
« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2021, 08:39:28 PM »
AC12,

Thanks for all that - lots of great advise there, some of which I am following, but other bits I need to start doing.  So far I have just been working to keep all the shots in the black, and I only have successfully done it on one ten shot card.  I just need to keep reminding myself to expect the progress to be slow.

And I will certainly get some of the Kruger targets to see how those work for me.  But I guess if I am honest with myself, the tearing is a minor issue until my shooting improves enough to get to a small enough group that I start scoring the targets.  ;)

Go out a ring or two, so that it is not so HARD.
You have to work at it, but if it is almost impossible, the brain gives up.

I don't know if your AP can dry fire, but that was one of the best exercises that I did.
Without the AP firing, I could concentrate on my trigger finger.

I first dry fired on a blank sheet of paper, so there was no target to distract me from concentrating on the trigger.
One purpose is to burn the process into muscle memory, so that you do not have to think about the trigger.

Then once I was comfortable with the trigger, I dry fired on a target, to work on holding the sight picture for 5 seconds.  In this second step, I would put the sight on target, start the trigger pull, then CONCENTRATE on holding the sight picture, till the hammer fell.  If I thought about the trigger for an instant, I knew that I lost concentration on holding the sight picture, and I aborted the shot.

Keep track of your 0/1 ring scores.  That helps to keep track as you improve. 
That is more important than actual scores. 
Example a shot in the 1 ring and in the 10 ring average to 5.5.   But you NEEDED to shoot a 10, to only partially make up for the 1.  If you can hold the 6 ring, you have a better score.  That is why my coach told me to score 0/1 on a selected ring, rather than 1-10.
When you can shoot say 90% and it seems easy, then go in a ring.
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