Air Venturi has set the bar for inexpensive top notch PCP with the Avenger !!!

[scion19801]

Fred in my opinion 2700psi it too much for pellets, if you're going to be shooting heavy stuff with it I personally would still back mine down to about 2300psi for slugs from what I've seen.  I may soon turn mine back up to try a bunch of the slugs I've cast in it soon.  I haven't done a chronograph test with them yet but in the near future I will be.

cant wait for you slug testing with this one Wayne. especially the .249-39-rf-e6 Noe mold slugs.

[Wayne52]

Dan when I shot them on high power they grouped pretty good but I honestly didn't have the scope dialed in for them so they all grouped off the pin up target when I tried a clip.  That was back when I first got it with the regulator set at 2900psi.  Back when I originally bought the mold I got it mainly for the .25 DAR however I never really tried them in the DAR because the magazines aren't available for them yet.  With all the remarkably low cost nice pcps available these days it's hard staying away from buying them.

[Wayne52]

I just watched this video Stephen (The Banker) did with his 25 cal Avenger. He's got both pros and cons to say about it and the pros outweigh the cons.

[Dan H]

Thanks for posting that video Wayne ... he did a good job taking the Avenger apart... this is a nice one to have if you have to go there ...

[Wayne52]

Within the next several months I predict some failures of this gun however until mine fails I think I'll leave mine the way it is.  I'm thinking that a person could make a custom barrel band screw that goes through all the way to make tightening up the barrel band without marring the air tube or shroud, maybe even use brass screws in place of the steel ones would probably be good too.  I think the die cast material in question is probably a zinc alloy of some sort.

[Vee3]

That was a really good video. Thanks for posting it.

Seems like this rifle would be a good one for a guy wanting to tinker, tune or just learn about the inner workings of a PCP that has modern features.

The quality of many parts on it certainly match the low price of the gun but hey, check out those targets. 

[Wayne52]

I'm subscribed to Stephens youtube channel, I did couple of five shot groups with my Avenger this morning.
 
I was using my 26g Hunters, the Magnum Hunters shoot really good too.

[Dan H]

Wayne those shoot pretty good ! thanks for the video / info ...

[Wayne52]

Thanks Dan !!!

[FuzzyGrub]

I think there has been enough "real" user feedback, like yours, that support allot of the early reviews. Excellent value for the money. 

While I agree with Stephen's comments, the one that has the most interest, to me, is the use of the plastic covered die-cast receiver.  That seems to be the "new" mfg design into the "value" category.   I'm sure others are using it, like sig, but not prominent yet.   While it may limit power mods, can't fault a mfg for that.  What its long-term reliability is, we will have to wait and see.  Not many liked uni-body cars when they first came out.   I was a member of that group, and probably a skeptic on the die-cast, but it will be proven or dis-proven by users like yourself. 

[triggerpost]

Like the Rotex, Buddy has a Rotex and the cast has worn big, Lots of slop in that gun now. Just look how long a cap gun lasts ! . I myself will stay away from matchbox car metal........

[Dan H]

I noticed 1 thing Stephen is going to do all that work to make a wood stock for the gun out of that block of wood    he must really like it and have enough confidence in the gun holding up, or why would you put all that effort in ? ...

personally I do not think there is enough stress put on that cast piece to get to worried about it ...

[FuzzyGrub]

I noticed 1 thing Stephen is going to do all that work to make a wood stock for the gun out of that block of wood    he must really like it and have enough confidence in the gun holding up, or why would you put all that effort in ? ...

I'm not sure if the effort plays into his decision, but bet it will be an excellent looking stock, like the ones he did for the Liberty.   

The bottom tube will require some deep inletting, and would be a challenge for many trying to use a "partial" inletted stock.  It maybe a limitation for NV to come out with a beech stock version for it without it weighing a ton.  The Origin, with single tube would be easier, but looks to have a more "standard" syn stock, not the clam shell.   I don't think Boyds have picked up any other airgun outside of Mrod and Disco/Maximus/Fortitude.

While I'm not estatic about the two clam shell Libertys I have, they definitly make it lighter and more field carry manageable.  And you certainly don't worry about scratching them.   When you pick it up, it just doesn't inspire you to the rest of the quality of it.  If it matters, I'm not estatic about the Bulldog clam-shell stock, either.   

[Allen Rice]

I agree, Air Venturi has set the bar high for inexpensive top notch PCP with the Avenger.  But, the new Umarex Origin may be a better choice for some, especially those who are new to PCP airgunning and do not have an established HP air source.

ar

[OTmachine]

Like the Rotex, Buddy has a Rotex and the cast has worn big, Lots of slop in that gun now. Just look how long a cap gun lasts ! . I myself will stay away from matchbox car metal........

Depends on the alloy used.  Everywhere, castings are used and give good service.  The cars we drive, the airplanes we fly in, all use castings safely.  Please do not go condemning something until you have all of the facts.  My .02

[Dan H]

I agree, Air Venturi has set the bar high for inexpensive top notch PCP with the Avenger.  But, the new Umarex Origin may be a better choice for some, especially those who are new to PCP airgunning and do not have an established HP air source.

ar

Better off getting the Avenger , a lot better gun feature wise  for the $$$ hand pumps are only 50 bucks or so...    

[Allen Rice]

I agree, Air Venturi has set the bar high for inexpensive top notch PCP with the Avenger.  But, the new Umarex Origin may be a better choice for some, especially those who are new to PCP airgunning and do not have an established HP air source.

ar

Better off getting the Avenger , a lot better gun feature wise  for the $$$ hand pumps are only 50 bucks or so...    

Good point Dan but I'm not sure I agree completely.  The Origin's air reservoir has a very innovative Gas-spring assist which makes it much easier to fill, and the gas-spring maintains pressure in the reservoir until the fill-pressure is virtually depleted.  This system results in very consistent power throughout the entire shot-string, similar to what one would expect from a regulated gun.  A new PCP airgunner starring with a hand pump might really appreciate this feature.

ar

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-sz-001&hsimp=yhs-001&hspart=sz&p=youtube+Umarex+Origin+.22#id=4&vid=ebed9a0e0888705b0fe5bf0dd7826e43&action=click

[Bob Pratl]

It seems like a practical idea and it's hard to believe that it has not been tried before or has it.

[Allen Rice]

I agree, Air Venturi has set the bar high for inexpensive top notch PCP with the Avenger.  But, the new Umarex Origin may be a better choice for some, especially those who are new to PCP airgunning and do not have an established HP air source.

ar

Better off getting the Avenger , a lot better gun feature wise  for the $$$ hand pumps are only 50 bucks or so...    

Good point Dan but I'm not sure I agree completely.  The Origin's air reservoir has a very innovative Gas-spring assist which makes it much easier to fill, and the gas-spring maintains pressure in the reservoir until the fill-pressure is virtually depleted.  This system results in very consistent power throughout the entire shot-string, similar to what one would expect from a regulated gun.  A new PCP airgunner starring with a hand pump might really appreciate this feature.

ar

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-sz-001&hsimp=yhs-001&hspart=sz&p=youtube+Umarex+Origin+.22#id=4&vid=ebed9a0e0888705b0fe5bf0dd7826e43&action=click

It seems like a practical idea and it's hard to believe that it has not been tried before or has it.

Bob,
To my knowledge, the Umarex Origin's "Ever Pressure Fill System" is unique.  However, It may inspire other "out of the Box" products in the future.

ar

[Wayne52]

I used my Avenger for opening day squirrel season yesterday and it did not fail me.  The worse part about the hunt was the fact that I packed one Marauder magazine instead of both for the Avenger.  I've got two more mags coming for mine that are supposed to be here tomorrow which will definitely make things much better.  The light weight is the biggest plus of this gun no doubt