Author Topic: What's up with this one? RWS 3400? (Read 5117 times))

JnJHess · « **on:** July 31, 2020, 05:42:05 PM »

Just seen this one in the PA New Products section. I thought RWS was bought by Diana, and that all the Rifles would be Dianas. Must have missed something here?

JnJHess · « **Reply #1 on:** July 31, 2020, 05:58:41 PM »

OOOps, forgott to post the link.
Here it is:https://www.pyramydair.com/product/rws-3400-air-rifle?m=5252

JnJHess · « **Reply #2 on:** July 31, 2020, 05:59:05 PM »

darn again.
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/rws-3400-air-rifle?m=5252

Roadworthy · « **Reply #3 on:** July 31, 2020, 07:42:34 PM »

RWS distributes Diana - as well as other things, some with only the RWS name. Do not assume a Diana connection for every RWS product, though many models currently manufactured by Diana are only branded RWS. Diana also markets some airguns without going through RWS. Additionally all Diana branded airguns are not made by Diana. There are at least two models bearing the Diana name but not manufactured by Diana. It's getting as messy as trying to figure out who made your car or tractor.

JnJHess · « **Reply #4 on:** July 31, 2020, 08:28:01 PM »

Yeah, looks like it is getting really messy with that. But what Gun is this now? especally because you can have it with spring piston or with gas piston, is this a newer model of the Diana 340 or what. It is really getting confusing, cause by the looks it could be a Diana 340 with a stock of a kind of Diana 34 classic.

Struckat · « **Reply #5 on:** July 31, 2020, 09:03:33 PM »

In stock and assembled in America, interesting indeed.

Roadworthy · « **Reply #6 on:** July 31, 2020, 09:26:35 PM »

Put simply, the RWS 3400 is NOT a Diana. It has no connection with Diana. RWS may have used that model number as a attention grabber for people familiar with the Diana 34 and 340. Don't let the number confuse you.

Yarddog · « **Reply #7 on:** July 31, 2020, 11:14:38 PM »

Clearly, somebody needs to get one and report out. No. Not me. My next air rifle will be either an R9 or an Avenger!

Plus I already have a 34 and a Terrus!

Bill_in_TR · « **Reply #8 on:** August 01, 2020, 09:24:44 AM »

I thought I read somewhere on this forum that RWS is no longer the importer for Diana. At any rate for the newest Diana lineup Hector posted a link to the latest catalog.

https://www.diana-airguns.de/fileadmin/Editoren/PDF-Downloads/Publkationen/DIANA_Katalog_2020_web.pdf

HectorMedina · « **Reply #9 on:** August 01, 2020, 10:46:57 AM »

Hello Everyone!

We had already gone over this a while ago:
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=173569.msg155959421#msg155959421

Now, look CLOSELY at this picture, taken from PA's website:

Look at the trigger/action closing block. What does it look like?

C'Mon! You're all experienced airgunners and tinkerers.

;-)

What was said back in May still holds.

BTW, they are cheaper at Midway (when they have them in stock).

Keep well and shoot straight!

HM

jason miller · « **Reply #10 on:** August 01, 2020, 05:27:56 PM »

Trigger block definitely looks to be from a Terrus. But it also has the scope “rail” from a D34. Can’t tell if the front screws are for a bracket like on the 34 or angled up into the compression tube like the Terrus.

In my opinion, the rifle is a lot more interesting if it has the guts from a Terrus with its lightweight 25mm piston and more efficient transfer port that is a lot more tame and surprisingly close in power when compared to a D34.

Does the trigger block mean that it also must share the tube/internals from a Terrus? And they just decided to slap a D34 style scope rail on it?

fwbsport · « **Reply #11 on:** August 02, 2020, 10:30:08 AM »

This had me confused some years back when RWS and Diana seemed to do the same models with their own names, but as time went there was a split between the two in quality and the prices usually reflected this.

In short, you get what you pay for! If you want the real Diana it'll cost you!

jason miller · « **Reply #12 on:** August 05, 2020, 05:20:14 PM »

So who’s gonna buy one and open it up so we can all know what exactly it is?

Frank in Fairfield · « **Reply #13 on:** August 05, 2020, 05:52:26 PM »

Assembled in Arkansas.....UMAREX!
Rebranded as Hector suggests...

HectorMedina · « **Reply #14 on:** August 06, 2020, 12:03:21 PM »

Just to let everyone know:

I received yesterday an EMail from UMAREX stating that:
"We have discontinued the 3400 models"

Now, this can be a mistake, it MAY be some slip of the mind/finger, but I would be remiss if I didn't let my friends know now.

I have already requested clarification and will let you know what I get back when I get anything back.

Keep well and shoot straight!

HM

jason miller · « **Reply #15 on:** August 06, 2020, 01:26:10 PM »

So they ran through all the leftover Terrus parts already?

DanD · « **Reply #16 on:** August 06, 2020, 01:28:02 PM »

Quote from: jason miller on August 06, 2020, 01:26:10 PM

So they ran through all the leftover Terrus parts already?

LOL!

Tpatner412 · « **Reply #17 on:** August 06, 2020, 01:44:29 PM »

Quote from: HectorMedina on August 06, 2020, 12:03:21 PM

Just to let everyone know:

I received yesterday an EMail from UMAREX stating that:
"We have discontinued the 3400 models"

Now, this can be a mistake, it MAY be some slip of the mind/finger, but I would be remiss if I didn't let my friends know now.

I have already requested clarification and will let you know what I get back when I get anything back.

Keep well and shoot straight!

HM

This is correct. Once the stock PA has is gone, we have been told they will be gone for good. So consider this a limited run rifle.

jason miller · « **Reply #18 on:** August 06, 2020, 03:06:25 PM »

Tyler, can you tell us exactly what parts are used to make this rifle? The trigger groups is obviously Terrus. But the Terrus only had a ~17” barrel, not ~19”. The Terrus also didn’t have a rail on the receiver, or an option for a gas ram. Those three traits are all possessed by the D34, though. Velocity ratings are also the same as a D34.

And yes, I called Umarex. The guy I spoke to had no idea what the answers to these questions might be, and told me twice that I couldn’t speak to the gunsmith, even after he went to ask the gunsmith and came back with unclear information.

Tpatner412 · « **Reply #19 on:** August 06, 2020, 03:37:09 PM »

Quote from: jason miller on August 06, 2020, 03:06:25 PM

Tyler, can you tell us exactly what parts are used to make this rifle? The trigger groups is obviously Terrus. But the Terrus only had a ~17” barrel, not ~19”. The Terrus also didn’t have a rail on the receiver, or an option for a gas ram. Those three traits are all possessed by the D34, though. Velocity ratings are also the same as a D34.

And yes, I called Umarex. The guy I spoke to had no idea what the answers to these questions might be, and told me twice that I couldn’t speak to the gunsmith, even after he went to ask the gunsmith and came back with unclear information.

I would only be guessing. The gun shares a lot of traits with the Terrus/Parrus guns. Parrus was around a 19" barrel from what I recall. The gun (when initially shown back in 2019 SHOT Show) was very clearly aimed at the Diana 34/340. Whether the parts (some or all) are actually made in Germany, I cannot say. I can tell you the box says "Made in the USA with globally sourced parts" which doesn't provide a lot of clarity.

With that said, the guns feel great, look good and shoot nicely. I have a .22 spring version at my desk and my initial impressions are quite good. I was actually kind of disappointed to hear they they will not be continuing with them, but it does make it something of a collectors piece so that's kind of neat.

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What's up with this one? RWS 3400?

Author Topic: What's up with this one? RWS 3400? (Read 5117 times))