Yong Heng compressor ... I just bought 1 ...

[KnifeMaker]

I was talking to Travis over the weekend. He put it perfectly. The "Arrogance of Ignorance." Hit the nail on the head perfectly in this Ney Sayer thread. GRRRRRR!!!
I honestly don't remember the last time I saw so much ignorance on a subject, much less one talked about so much. And so much arrogance and just flat out refusal to become educated in the subject. Unreal!


Beyond shameful. Embarrassing!

[Dan H]

Dan, I ran out of "Here's your Sign" Post. Common sense is running off many members backs like water on a duck I probably should give up. What is the old saying, You can't fix Stupid!
You tried as well Sir!  Thank you for your efforts. 


Knife
Poor  Poor little compressor. Choked to death. never had a chance. Murder weapon? Wrong oil!

POST OF THE MONTH ! 

[Randy00]

One thing is for sure. There are some in here that really think they know more than anyone, and they won't tolerate dissent. To the actual new people that come in here, they probably learn quickly to stay away from these people.   

[tracker1955]

I learned my lesson after using the Husky oil from Home Depot.

[OleTomCat]

One thing is for sure. There are some in here that really think they know more than anyone, and they won't tolerate dissent. To the actual new people that come in here, they probably learn quickly to stay away from these people.   

Yep....

[Randy00]

I was talking to Travis over the weekend. He put it perfectly. The "Arrogance of Ignorance." Hit the nail on the head perfectly in this Ney Sayer thread. GRRRRRR!!!
I honestly don't remember the last time I saw so much ignorance on a subject, much less one talked about so much. And so much arrogance and just flat out refusal to become educated in the subject. Unreal!


Beyond shameful. Embarrassing!

You claim people spend too much time talking about this subject after you have likely caused sever blistering on at least two of your fingers typing about how dumb everyone is in here. You're so angry about this, that you actually take the subject to a friend over the weekend to complain and both decide how dumb we are. Not much to do in your neck of the woods?  Arrogance? Look up the word (see picture of Knife) Ignorant? Maybe.. But i'd rather be an ignorant fool that an A-Hole people don't even want to know. Saying you have to hand out stupid signs is about as stupid as the comedy schick you stole it from, and calling people ignorant just shows your own deep insecurity. I don't care how many posts you have knife. Why don't you grow up and stop calling people names and poking them like a dipstick.   "Beyond Shameful? Embarrassing"?  Just wow.  You get so angry? Over this?  Find some meaning or get some..Xanex Knife....Xanex 

[oldpro]

 OK! Lets take it down a notch gang. As human beings we all make mistakes all the time and Im no exception LOL...Lets not get into calling each other names or putting people into categories lets instead HELP each other and recommend safe and useful information.   

[T3PRanch]

Good Information is plentiful on this forum. Learning from others mistakes is the mark of a wise man.


Validation of "potentially" wrong ideas is not so welcomed on the forum especially by those who have "learned" better and have rightfully attempted to share the correct methods supported by sound evidence to prevent others from experiencing the pain of mistaken practices as seen in this thread.

[Fate]

Which of these two oil specs is the better one for the YH, and why:

OIL #1
KinematicViscosity@100 ̊C,cSt(ASTMD445) ............................................7.5
KinematicViscosity@40 ̊C,cSt(ASTMD445) ..............................................38.5
ViscosityIndex(ASTMD2270) ................................................................165
PourPoint ̊C( ̊F)(ASTMD97) ............................................................-53(-63)
FlashPoint ̊C( ̊F)(ASTMD92) ........................................................... 234(453)

OIL #2
Viscosity @ 40°C / 100°C: 146.5 / 13.3
Viscosity Index: 90
Flash Point °C / °F: 271
Pour Point °C / °F: -34

While I have reviewed what these parameters are, how they compare to one another is not clear when referencing the best oil for the Yong Heng. I got lost between Newtonian and Non-Newtonian fluids.
 

[KnifeMaker]

I give up. I have spent untold hours researching, talking to compressor manufacturers and engineers at different oil companies. It is not that I think I know more, it is that I went to the trouble to do the research for the benefit of members here having failures.  A unreal amount of info has been obtained over the past few months.


Now armed with the actual facts, it is the sky is falling.  Yes, I got ticked off at the arrogance from those who have done NO research what so ever. My apologies for trying to help. I will continue to do so in the slug shooting part of this forum, but as far as trying to really help people get the most life out of their compressors, I'm finished!


Once again, my bad for passing along what I have learned from the industry.


Knife

[Randy00]

Saying you are handing out signs for peoples stupidity is a real good way to get people on your side. The issue isn't so important that you call people out like you and a few others do. It makes you look thoughtless, arrogant, crass, and petty. A post count shouldn't be an excuse for treating others like idiots. So I would have to agree.. If by giving up you mean harassing others? Go for it. Give up. Imagine if you will yo are brand new to this and you have come to this place to learn something. And you and a few others are mocking and calling others names like puffed up self important d-bags. You would either leave or stay the *(&^ away from you people.

[Fate]

First, I have a few things to say….

some general and some specific to the subject.

Personally, my first instinct when someone tells me I have to do anything is to resist and back away. Recommendations with intelligent reasoning clearly outlined will always get my attention. But mandates, alone, with or without “reasons” land on my deaf ears. I’m sure I’m not alone.

My last post above was a trap, a trick question designed to illustrate my perspective on much of the “do it or else” going on in this thread. Oil #2 is Nuvair 751/Chemlube 751… the highly touted oil-du-jour of not long ago… by some now on another YH lube bandwagon. You know who you are.

Oil #1? It’s what I have been and will continue using. I chose it long before I got the compressor and weeks before I unpacked it... after doing my due diligence. To me it has better specs than the Nuvair/Chemlube. At the least it's good enough for this cheapo compressor. And since none of the assembled have deigned to answer my simple question I’ll take it they see it the same, or, know not how to compare.

Part of the reason I posted this simple question was similar to others I’ve made: Looking for guidance couched in specifics.

Crickets. L O L

I believe in showing your work. I don’t take anyone’s word for anything… especially when good questions are met with “just do it.” Because “I did the research and say so,” or because so and so recommends it. To me it just indicates the actions of a Parrot, repeating random sounds, intelligent on their face or not.

With more than 80 years doing it my way, it's worked well enough that I’m unlikely to change now.

[KnifeMaker]

It was never a just do it. I posted a lengthily statement from Alkin that tells exactly why proper oils should be used and the dangers of using  the wrong oils.


If the engineers of the  top manufacturers don't know what they are talking about, Well,-------


I wonder who Shoe Box contacted when  they were having issues with the original models due to piston scoring and the resulting o ring failures. Tom Kaye is one of the smartest people I've ever known. He respects my opining and based many of the improvements for longer life on my suggestions.  It worked!


I've been at this for a long time people.  People came to me for advice here on the forum. I wasn't simply blowing smoke.  I was ask to share my knowledge. All I've gotten for it is grief!

[cosmic]

 Knife, I take what you said to the bank !!  When people are wondering what happened? Mostly user error..
   I happen to believe if one extra step were taken upon assembly also, would up the longevity of most compressors.. All that needs to be done is rotating the motor with the cylinder head lightly snug.. By doing so you align the pistons with the cylinders..
   

[KnifeMaker]

Knife, I take what you said to the bank !!  When people are wondering what happened? Mostly user error..
   I happen to believe if one extra step were taken upon assembly also, would up the longevity of most compressors.. All that needs to be done is rotating the motor with the cylinder head lightly snug.. By doing so you align the pistons with the cylinders..
   

You make a great point! and Thank You!


Knife/Mike

[Elno Lewis]

my Yong Heng is now about 9 months old.  Even though I screwed up a few times, i.e. using it to fill a leaky air tank, it is still chugging along perfectly.  I did buy one them long filter thangs for it because just to keep the moisture out of my guns--and it works perfectly.  Now I just use it to fill my guns and that is cool, too.  If I do need my big tank filled I just go to a scuba shop--which are prevalent here in FLO.

So, Yong Heng on brothers and sisters!

[Airnut]

Knife
It's not what you say it's sometimes how you say it.
My issue is that you are giving the impression that using the correct oil guarantees no failures and that's not true. There has been failures with the "correct oil"
You ask me to give you just one case were there was a failure.I can not because they are scared to come forward and get a toung whipping from you. I have been e - mailed by two people stating that there compressor failed using your recommended oil. I agree with you that they need to use the proper oil but even so there will be failures. It's not a reflection on the oil. It a reflection of the machine. Will using the proper oil help in longevity ? No doubt.
My biggest question is should these compressors be used to fill large tanks?

 

[avator]

Knife
It's not what you say it's sometimes how you say it.
My issue is that you are giving the impression that using the correct oil guarantees no failures and that's not true. There has been failures with the "correct oil"
You ask me to give you just one case were there was a failure.I can not because they are scared to come forward and get a toung whipping from you. I have been e - mailed by two people stating that there compressor failed using your recommended oil. I agree with you that they need to use the proper oil but even so there will be failures. It's not a reflection on the oil. It a reflection of the machine. Will using the proper oil help in longevity ? No doubt.
My biggest question is should these compressors be used to fill large tanks?

In my opinion ... no.. but that's just that.. my opinion. Same with the oil I use.
However, if I chose to use sub standard oil and use the compressor in ways that are not recommended, I certainly wouldn't go around calling it junk. Curios.. those e-mails you got... were they filling guns or tanks?

[KnifeMaker]

Knife
It's not what you say it's sometimes how you say it.
My issue is that you are giving the impression that using the correct oil guarantees no failures and that's not true. There has been failures with the "correct oil"
You ask me to give you just one case were there was a failure. I can not because they are scared to come forward and get a toung whipping from you. I have been e - mailed by two people stating that there compressor failed using your recommended oil. I agree with you that they need to use the proper oil but even so there will be failures. It's not a reflection on the oil. It a reflection of the machine. Will using the proper oil help in longevity ? No doubt.
My biggest question is should these compressors be used to fill large tanks?

I fill two 88 cf tanks almost daily, bot I take additional precautions with heat. The wrap on the tubes is an example. Still, it is a no bearing unit and prone to failure . And exactly   why I am now moving up to a actual dive compressor. I used Shoe Box for what, 15 years. Tried the Atros and liked it, but it was very hard on the full size 80 gal shop compressor.


Remember, I said compressor failure with the proper oil used from the beginning. Not added later. If some one besides my self did start wit the better oils, I don't know who it was. I do a lot of research. I would love to hear from them. The proper oils are to protect the cylinder head and valves. Not the crank. Any oil will do that. Only failures of piston, valve cylinder heads is of interest in this regard. If the failure was crank to rod, well, that is poor design with NO bearings just alu. to steel. Very poor design.  No oil can fix a bad design or make a magic bearing where there is none.

Knife

[Airnut]

Bill
I have no idea.
Did they over fill/ underfill?
Did they run it hot?
There could have been underlying causes.
Who knows!!