The “ other 880 “ Winchester 1977xs

[Ronno6]

Ron, i’ve Chased more of those safety springs and ball bearings than I care to admit lol. I use a big freezer bag to do all that in now.... that solved it..... so far.

That's great when attempting reassembly.
My unscheduled disassembly occurred when removing the receiver from the gun...........

[35 shooter]

Ron, i’ve Chased more of those safety springs and ball bearings than I care to admit lol. I use a big freezer bag to do all that in now.... that solved it..... so far.

That's great when attempting reassembly.
My unscheduled disassembly occurred when removing the receiver from the gun...........

Lol, unscheduled disassembly.,. Gottcha.
Gonna try for a little distance shooting with the 1977 tomorrow, then again, the fish are getting started good.... maybe both if i’m Lucky!

[Ronno6]

Gonna try for a little distance shooting with the 1977 tomorrow, then again, the fish are getting started good.... maybe both if i’m Lucky!

Just get them in a barrel and kill 2 birds...er...fish with one stone....that is...pellet..

(You know what  I mean...)

[Lenman73]

Leonard, you mentioned putting a Winchester 4x32 AO scope on yours... that’s what I have on mine now. Balances great with just a bit more weight.

Is it just me, or would a 22 version of this rifle be great? Maybe 650, 700 FPS. With 14.3 gr.?meehhh, make it 750 FPS. stock!

Ron, i’ve Chased more of those safety springs and ball bearings than I care to admit lol. I use a big freezer bag to do all that in now.... that solved it..... so far.

I put the scope that came with the 1977 on my 880. I bought a UTG 4×32 1" hunter scope and put that on the winnie. I got it from amazon for $35.  An awesome scope but went to buy another and they were up to $49 or something. Glad I got the one i got when i did.

And yes, a 22 cal. would be a fantastic idea. I would preorder one now if possible.

[Ronno6]

Is it just me, or would a 22 version of this rifle be great? Maybe 650, 700 FPS. With 14.3 gr.?meehhh, make it 750 FPS. stock!
 

You could probably swap the performance parts into an 822 or 922.........just thinkin' out loud........

I expect there's gonna be all sorts of interesting upgraded Daisys out there when 1977 parts become available.

[Ronno6]

Everybody seems to like the lightness of the gun.
Has there been no consideration given to dong the"tube of silicone in the stock" trick ??

I may try fitting a metal receiver to mine just for grins.

[35 shooter]

Everybody seems to like the lightness of the gun.
Has there been no consideration given to dong the"tube of silicone in the stock" trick ??

I may try fitting a metal receiver to mine just for grins.

I filled the stock on one of my 880’s with silicone and like the way it turned out. Don’t know if i’ll do that with the Winchester or not at this point.
Headed to a friends house to do some bench testing at longer ranges with it right now!
Anxious to see how I do with the stock trigger.

[35 shooter]

Got to my friends range and set up at 20 yds. To verify zero... everything was dead on at 6 pumps.
I noticed on 10 pumps I was shooting a half inch to the right?
I started moving the target back 10 yds. at a time, and by the time I got to 50 yds., I knew something was way off lol.
Checked the foam wiper and it was almost dry as a bone ggggrrrrrr!

Ran home, oiled the wiper good, and got back to the range just in time for a couple more groups.
The zero at 20 yds. was verified and both 6 and 10 pumps were centered as they should be with 10 pumps hitting one pellet higher at 20 yds. Than 6 pumps.
Moved immediately to 50 yds. and put the first 2 shots @ 10 pumps centered right on top of each other about 3 1/2” low of the target next shot centered a half inch lower, and a fourth shot .7” to the right of the first 3 for a 4 shot .7” c/c group with daisy flatnose pellets.( yeah, I know, wadcutters are’nt supposed to shoot past 30 or 40 yds.)
There was an empty scent killer bottle laying on the ground that I had shot at earlier before oiling the rifle.
Set it up at 50 yds. and shooting at the scope crosshairs emblem on the bottle, put the first 2 centered about 3 1/2” low cutting on top of each other and a third shot a half inch lower.
Carbon copy of the first 3 shots on the paper target.

So I spent the first 2 hrs. Shooting a dry pumper wondering what was wrong. 
That’s the second time that’s happened to me lately.... guess i’ll learn eventually.
I was looking for a 1 1/2” to 2” drop at 50 yds., but got a consistent 3 1/2” drop. I think the trigger pull was pulling me a bit low, but at least I was consistent with it.
Could just be the big flatnose on the wadcutters catching wind resistance, but at 40yds., I was 3/8” high... right where it should have been on 10 pumps.

These daisy wad cutters( made in Spain) shoot well even at 50 yds. from my 880’s, but I really did’nt expect them to hold up like this at the speed of the Winchester.
Anyway, this rifle can shoot.

[unionrdr]

I've got a small dunnage full of .177's. I'll see what all works when I can. The Winchester 4x32AO scope is still on route.

[birdmove]

    I have two of those Winchester 4x32 AO scopes. Nothing fancy, but decent scopes. I find 4 power to be adequate for most of my shooting.

[35 shooter]

I really like those winchester scopes. I’ve only had a problem with one out of five of them, and they’re really all that’s needed on the 880’s.
I’d like to try one of the 2x7 Winchester scopes, but could’nt find one locally.
I’ll probably wind up with something 3x9, or 4x16ish on the Winnie before it’s over.

Kind of getting used to the factory trigger on the Winnie, may leave it like it is, but knowing me, i’ll tear into again.
This one does’nt “seem” to need the bbl. tape mod.
Gonna shoot it like it is for awhile. I’ve pretty well tried all my cheap 177 pellets through it; gamo, beeman, crosman, and so far it”s all about the daisy flat nose. Oh, well it”s the cheapest one anyway .
Hhhmmmm got some Daisy pointed pellets that have never shot well in anything else... may try them later tonight.

[Ronno6]

I kinda think that the 1977 has to have a stiffer spring between the trigger and sear in
order to open the valve against the higher pressure from the HP piston and abutment.
A softer spring may leave you with a pumped up gun which wouldn't fire..........

So you can smooth things up and shorten the pull, but the stronger spring may need to remain.......

[35 shooter]

I kinda think that the 1977 has to have a stiffer spring between the trigger and sear in
order to open the valve against the higher pressure from the HP piston and abutment.
A softer spring may leave you with a pumped up gun which wouldn't fire..........

So you can smooth things up and shorten the pull, but the stronger spring may need to remain.......

Yeah, I think so too Ron. I was gonna try the c/c mod again if I do anything more to it. May leave well enough alone too.
Heck, I was grouping just fine with it as is, but it’s got me wondering how much of that was trigger control, or just dumb luck lol.
More time with it will tell.

A thought just hit me lol, out of my 4 880’s, and my brother’s 2 880’s, and now this 1977, i’ve Never gotten a bad bbl. from Daisy.
Of course none of my crosman bbls. have any problems either.... just saying.

[Ronno6]

Still thinkin' 'bout pickin' 'nother 'un up from Academy...................$69.00 w/free shipping.....
and a $15.00 discount if you open an academy credit card.......pretty tough to pass up, but I'm resistin'

btw.............their website calls it a 77XS, but the item # says 1977 and rated to 1000fps..........

[Lenman73]

Well I am depressed. One of my inlaws foster kids bought a winnie with his christmas money, so I went to get on amazon to order another tin of the daisy flat nose pellets and apparently pellets are not considered an essential item so the order didn't go through. I wanted to get him a tin for when I see him on easter sunday and help him sight it in. Stupid corona virus anyway !

[35 shooter]

Wow, that’s s bummer Leonard! I hope he can find something that works in it in the meantime.

[Lenman73]

After work I went back to the store where I got both my winchesters. They have 2 on the shelf but the price is now $89.99. They had some daisy dial a pellets with the flat nose, pointed and round head so I got him one of those for now.

[unionrdr]

Well, the Winchester 4x32AO scope came in a day early, so here it is mounted on the Winchester 1977XS with the lower factory-bundled scope mounts.

[Ronno6]

After work I went back to the store where I got both my winchesters. They have 2 on the shelf but the price is now $89.99. They had some daisy dial a pellets with the flat nose, pointed and round head so I got him one of those for now.

The 2 Academy stores "near" (30-35 miles) me still have a few for $69.95 or so,
but........
I don't want another one THAT badly......I'll stay here and shoot mine.
Academy does not have any more in stock to ship.

[Back_Roads]

 I'm tempted to find one and hydro dip it in the wood grain pattern I have sitting here .