Repeater Big Bores

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I have a winchester 70-45 with a power tune from Will Piatt for sale for $700 with scope and rings, $600 without.

It hits right at 200fpe, smooth side lever, and the length is almost carbine like, definitely not a long barrel! 5 shot cylinder magazine.

puts three touching shots at 50 yards all day long, as long as you have air!

aaah...the 45. Definitely going to bring the pain with that one. Especially with a proper slug that'll hit like a sledge hammer. Accurate too!

I will say this about my Winchester: she is hands down the smoothest rifle in my inventory. That, and it's like she's a physiological match made in heaven.

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Right now Pyramyd has a MAX .45 for sale

https://www.pyramydair.com/product/evanix-max-ml-bullpup?m=3394

Bruddah Manny...I've heard about these. They seem to be alright performance-wise, but for a .45, I'd like for it to be cranking out at least another 100FPE. If they had that, I'd be all over them.

You will be surprised what a 200 FPE .45 is capable off,

I had 300 FPE .45 and 400 FPE .50,...a 200 FPE .45  shooting the EPP/UG is a formidable hunting weapon.

I had a .45 MAX, there's a thread out there showing a bunch

And that right there is the gate of my conundrum. I'd like for the 35 to sling EPP/UGs accurately. JSBs are an absolute laser...and I have no doubt that they'll put down just about anything I come across as long as I do my part.

But can you imagine a HP impacting the neck bones just a hair behind where the ear meets the jowl? My partner dropped a 120 pounder dead in her tracks with a 10/22 slinging 40gr HPs. Small entry wound, and about a 2 inch cavity where the round dumped all it's energy. Neck bones? Separated and fragmented. I can only imagine a .357 EPP/UG HP in the same scenario.

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The MAX .45 is a much smaller Pup then the Bulldog 

Lol...thanks, bruddah Manny! Now you got me looking at that refurb .45 Max.

Is it easy to get parts for them? Geez...lookit how svelte that thing looks compared the BD.

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.45 Evanixes have 21" barrels so they are not too long guns. .45 Evanix can be tuned for up to 300 fpe with heavy bullets. However, they have 15" twist barrels that are not suited for light bullets. That's why I put a .357 barrel to my .45 snd it's still making 210+ fpe with 125 grainers. For 50 yards those .45s are fine but mine did't group at 100 yards.

How feasible is it for me to make about 850FPS with that platform, rkr? I've noticed some slugs don't like to travel too leisurely. Probably a little different, but my newly acquired Bullboss slings 28gr slugs at about 974FPS. At 30 yards, they're literally hole-in-hole. She's another one that needs to come with me.

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Ok...so just a quick note. Manny and I are roughly the same height. I've had about a couple dozen more sandwiches than he has, but height-wise we're pretty close. 

When I see him shouldering a rifle, our weld and pull are verrry similar.

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.45 Evanixes have 21" barrels so they are not too long guns. .45 Evanix can be tuned for up to 300 fpe with heavy bullets. However, they have 15" twist barrels that are not suited for light bullets. That's why I put a .357 barrel to my .45 snd it's still making 210+ fpe with 125 grainers. For 50 yards those .45s are fine but mine did't group at 100 yards.

He's hunting the Jungles of Guam, I don't think he's to concerned about 100 Yards groups LOL , even 50 is a stretch I bet in that environment,.... not everybody is looking for long range target shooters LOL

that is correct, sir. 50 yards is usually a rare shot. I did stalk one a couple months back, but he kept about a 45yd distance. It was hard to maintain noise discipline and close the gap. I had the big bore, but I didn't really make a note of POI past 30, which was my zero.

Most shots are around the 12-25yd range.

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.45 Evanixes have 21" barrels so they are not too long guns. .45 Evanix can be tuned for up to 300 fpe with heavy bullets. However, they have 15" twist barrels that are not suited for light bullets. That's why I put a .357 barrel to my .45 snd it's still making 210+ fpe with 125 grainers. For 50 yards those .45s are fine but mine did't group at 100 yards.

He's hunting the Jungles of Guam, I don't think he's to concerned about 100 Yards groups LOL , even 50 is a stretch I bet in that environment,.... not everybody is looking for long range target shooters LOL

Well, with some 340 grainers Evanix .45 is devastating at short range if that's what you are looking for. 300 fpe with some tuning and loopy trajectory but you can easily shoot through bushes and vegetation.

340 grain? Holy cow that's a freight train of a bullet!  Um yeah...I'd imagine some twigs and leaves would do little to veer it off-course.

Holy cow the impact!

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Super happy with the Bulldog.  It shoots a wide range of ammo accurately and had no issues harvesting this critter with NSA hollow points.

Yes, that's one of the things that the BD has going for it. It shoots pretty respectable out of the box.

Nice harvest! I tried using NSA slugs in my Winchester, and she didn't really like them. 

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I got distracted by Manny 340 grainers do not fit in the magazine of Evanix. The largest you can shoot from mag is about 220 grains. That still packs lots of punch and is not affected by twigs and stuff in thick brushes.

Oh ok. Still though...that's a heavy round. What kinda FPE levels are you getting with that weight, rkr?

[Nomadic Pirate]

.45 Evanixes have 21" barrels so they are not too long guns. .45 Evanix can be tuned for up to 300 fpe with heavy bullets. However, they have 15" twist barrels that are not suited for light bullets. That's why I put a .357 barrel to my .45 snd it's still making 210+ fpe with 125 grainers. For 50 yards those .45s are fine but mine did't group at 100 yards.

He's hunting the Jungles of Guam, I don't think he's to concerned about 100 Yards groups LOL , even 50 is a stretch I bet in that environment,.... not everybody is looking for long range target shooters LOL

that is correct, sir. 50 yards is usually a rare shot. I did stalk one a couple months back, but he kept about a 45yd distance. It was hard to maintain noise discipline and close the gap. I had the big bore, but I didn't really make a note of POI past 30, which was my zero.

Most shots are around the 12-25yd range.

Talking about keeping the noise down ;

I found the Buldog horrific in that regard, the cheap thin hollow stock  makes a lot of noise just by touching it, in the thick jungle it really magnifies it a lot.

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Very true. It's amazing how "normal" noises seem to be amplified when you're stalking about. I always bring my phone with me in case of emergencies, and I always have to put it on silent because even the vibration in my pocket seems like siren going off.

[rkr]

.45 Evanixes have 21" barrels so they are not too long guns. .45 Evanix can be tuned for up to 300 fpe with heavy bullets. However, they have 15" twist barrels that are not suited for light bullets. That's why I put a .357 barrel to my .45 snd it's still making 210+ fpe with 125 grainers. For 50 yards those .45s are fine but mine did't group at 100 yards.

How feasible is it for me to make about 850FPS with that platform, rkr? I've noticed some slugs don't like to travel too leisurely. Probably a little different, but my newly acquired Bullboss slings 28gr slugs at about 974FPS. At 30 yards, they're literally hole-in-hole. She's another one that needs to come with me.

I was shooting EPP/UGs at around 840 fps from my .45 Evanix. Port job and hammer springs.

[rkr]

I got distracted by Manny 340 grainers do not fit in the magazine of Evanix. The largest you can shoot from mag is about 220 grains. That still packs lots of punch and is not affected by twigs and stuff in thick brushes.

Oh ok. Still though...that's a heavy round. What kinda FPE levels are you getting with that weight, rkr?

I was shooting them at 740 fps which is 270 fpe. The gun was not maxed out at that point.

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.45 Evanixes have 21" barrels so they are not too long guns. .45 Evanix can be tuned for up to 300 fpe with heavy bullets. However, they have 15" twist barrels that are not suited for light bullets. That's why I put a .357 barrel to my .45 snd it's still making 210+ fpe with 125 grainers. For 50 yards those .45s are fine but mine did't group at 100 yards.

How feasible is it for me to make about 850FPS with that platform, rkr? I've noticed some slugs don't like to travel too leisurely. Probably a little different, but my newly acquired Bullboss slings 28gr slugs at about 974FPS. At 30 yards, they're literally hole-in-hole. She's another one that needs to come with me.

I was shooting EPP/UGs at around 840 fps from my .45 Evanix. Port job and hammer springs.

Hmm...is that port on everything? Valve, transfer and barrel?

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I got distracted by Manny 340 grainers do not fit in the magazine of Evanix. The largest you can shoot from mag is about 220 grains. That still packs lots of punch and is not affected by twigs and stuff in thick brushes.

Oh ok. Still though...that's a heavy round. What kinda FPE levels are you getting with that weight, rkr?

I was shooting them at 740 fps which is 270 fpe. The gun was not maxed out at that point.

And the gun wasn't maxed? Nice! So I can go lower in weight and increase my FPS a tad. Dangit...now I'm really regretting passing on that Sniper. 

[Nomadic Pirate]

Yeah, that Sniper was a great deal 

[Nomadic Pirate]

Also, keep in mind ;

Out of those Bog bores you can shoot arrows too, way, way more devastating on game then any pellet/bullet

[darkcharisma]

The Max 45 has 19" barrel while the bulldog has  whopping 28" barrel. Max 45 overall 29" vs 36" bulldog. Max weight in at 8.2lbs and 290cc while bulldog at 7.7lbs and 340cc.

i am still liking the bulldog for the price. Evanix is nice though!

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Yeah, that Sniper was a great deal 

Lol...yes it was! I can console myself with the Sumatra for now. 

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Also, keep in mind ;

Out of those Bog bores you can shoot arrows too, way, way more devastating on game then any pellet/bullet

That's another option I was pondering. I don't want to track too far, though; the jungle here is absolutely brutal. Cliff on one side, deep jungle on the other.

I suppose I could try a head shot with the arrows?