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[Techie]

Try this, the big hole go towards where you load the pellet and the small holes got towards where the pellet exits the shroud.

That's a good description too.  Got it.   

I thought saying "muzzle" was unambiguous, but I was wrong.   

[UCChris]

Baffles are "triangles". They point away from the barrel.

They should point the same direction as an air stripper. Smaller end towards the crown of the barrel, bigger side towards muzzle of LDC/shroud.

[SwampHunter]

I'm following just to see how long this convo is gonna go on 

[Techie]

They should point the same direction as an air stripper. Smaller end towards the crown of the barrel, bigger side towards muzzle of LDC/shroud.

That's good to know.  If I had known that, I wouldn't have needed to create this whole mess.   
However, I looked at the internal design of many PB suppressors, and I could not determine this from that.  Many show the small diameter end towards the crown of the muzzle, opening up to a bigger expansion chamber in the direction of bullet travel.  That's why I thought the baffles went the other way, although intuitively that seemed wrong when looking at the design of Rocker1's baffles.

[Buldawg76]

Since I have not received my shroud and baffles yet ( due here today ) I was going by the pic in Rocker1s classified add in which the baffles appear to have a flat end design versus a triangle/cone end design. If in fact they are a triangle/cone design such as the Mrod style baffles then I would agree they should go as UCchris states with small end towards the barrel but "only if there is a spring between the support on the end of the barrel with the o ring that supports the shroud and the baffle" if no spring like the Mrod uses then they should go as I stated earlier. Big end toward barrel and small end towards shroud end.

You do not want the small end of a triangle/cone shaped baffle against the shroud support at the end if the barrel unless there is a spring between the support and baffle IMO.

When I get mine later today I can give "my" direction of preferred installation. I may even add a light spring in between the shroud support and baffle if they are indeed of the mrod design and there is room to do so.

Just my humble,2 cents worth.

BD

[FuzzyGrub]

Since I have not received my shroud and baffles yet ( due here today ) I was going by the pic in Rocker1s classified add in which the baffles appear to have a flat end design versus a triangle/cone end design. If in fact they are a triangle/cone design such as the Mrod style baffles then I would agree they should go as UCchris states with small end towards the barrel but "only if there is a spring between the support on the end of the barrel with the o ring that supports the shroud and the baffle" if no spring like the Mrod uses then they should go as I stated earlier. Big end toward barrel and small end towards shroud end.

You do not want the small end of a triangle/cone shaped baffle against the shroud support at the end if the barrel unless there is a spring between the support and baffle IMO.

When I get mine later today I can give "my" direction of preferred installation. I may even add a light spring in between the shroud support and baffle if they are indeed of the mrod design and there is room to do so.

Just my humble,2 cents worth.

BD

I suspect they are the same style as I used in my Liberty.  More of a directional vented hair curler style. 

[UCChris]

Ah, I didn't think of the Mrod style baffling. In that case, it would be flipped as has been pointed out.. Big hole towards the crown and small hole towards LDC/shroud muzzle.

[subscriber]

While this thread is about cheap P-Rods, it is also about cheap Crosmans.  So, here is a link to a $233 .22 Fortitude:  https://www.crosman.com/fortitude-22

[subscriber]

While I am waiting for my 21 X 19 mm CF tubing to arrive, I bought some cheap 3/4" diameter stiff plastic bottle caps. 

You might be baffled by their resemblance to other items described above. 

[subscriber]

You do not want the small end of a triangle/cone shaped baffle against the shroud support at the end if the barrel unless there is a spring between the support and baffle IMO.

You could stand off the baffle nearest the barrel with an appropriate length of open tubing...  Then use one or more O-rings to create a rattle free preload; as is done in the stock P-Rod Shroud.  If the section of tubing (above) is stiff rubber, it can fulfill both duties.

[FuzzyGrub]

While this thread is about cheap P-Rods, it is also about cheap Crosmans.  So, here is a link to a $233 .22 Fortitude:  https://www.crosman.com/fortitude-22

They were only $175 when the AGN code was still working.  I got one just to revamp my older maximus prime project. 

[subscriber]

$175.  Durnnit...

[Buldawg76]

You do not want the small end of a triangle/cone shaped baffle against the shroud support at the end if the barrel unless there is a spring between the support and baffle IMO.

You could stand off the baffle nearest the barrel with an appropriate length of open tubing...  Then use one or more O-rings to create a rattle free preload; as is done in the stock P-Rod Shroud.  If the section of tubing (above) is stiff rubber, it can fulfill both duties.

Yep that would work as well, just needs to keep the baffles from moving inside the shroud. I always preload my baffles in some way be it a spring or o ring/rubber sleeve so they are snug in the shroud.

BD

[Techie]

Yep, Rocker1's baffles are shaped like a cup.  Here is a picture of one.  He also includes a spring if needed, but I didn't need it.

[UCChris]

Yep, Rocker1's baffles are shaped like a cup.  Here is a picture of one.  He also includes a spring if needed, but I didn't need it.

Yup, big hole towards crown, little towards shroud end.


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[ranchibi]

Yep, Rocker1's baffles are shaped like a cup.  Here is a picture of one.  He also includes a spring if needed, but I didn't need it.

Yup, big hole towards crown, little towards shroud end.


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Yes...small hole towards breech and large towards the crown of barrel. Mine came with the spring and mine needed it...place spring on or toward the air stripper, then baffles forward toward crown...correct installation as it is eerily quiet this way...wife says it now sounds like a toy, you just hear a puff, no ping any more.

[Rabbit\Squirrel Killer]

Yep, Rocker1's baffles are shaped like a cup.  Here is a picture of one.  He also includes a spring if needed, but I didn't need it.

Yup, big hole towards crown, little towards shroud end.


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Yes...small hole towards breech and large towards the crown of barrel.  Mine came with the spring and mine needed it...place spring on or toward the air stripper, then baffles forward toward crown...correct installation as it is eerily quiet this way...wife says it now sounds like a toy, you just hear a puff, no ping any more.

   
You illustrate my point perfectly!
 "If communication is to be effective it is a must for the definition of terms and understanding of facts to be the same between the parties involved in the attempt."
What you describe is impossible to do, the end of the barrel and the breech are both the same direction from the end of the shroud because the shroud extends past the barrel's crown. I feel like descriptions like yours cause confusion or at least express it.

Maybe try this small hole towards breech and large hole away from the breech or small hole towards breech and large hole towards the end of the shroud."The the end of the shroud shall mean the end that the projectile exits the gun when a shroud is present."   

I think my PRod is one of my quieter airguns stock so I have not installed anything to make it quieter but I do know how it's made.

I only answer this to try to help clear up confusion that I see expressed here. I mean no offense and hope it is receive in the spirit it was posted.

[Rick67]

Mr. Dan, rang Crosman yesterday re PROD breech.

Was about to order it but I forgot some of the parts that need to go with it--been so busy with the conclusion of this semester's classes  .

Price is great and I have now made a complete list of other essentials like brake shoes akin to my CCS gun  .

I will build it and have a unique PROD of my own.

Also got the brand new take-off PROD parts from Mr. UUCHris--I got it for $30 shipped, a super cheap deal, and he packed it solidly it almost weighed a ton  .

[Rocker1]

 Every airgun I have the breech is in the rear  the big hole is toward the breech, this type baffle will probley work how ever you put it in there but big hole goes toward the breech.  David

[Buldawg76]

Yep, Rocker1's baffles are shaped like a cup.  Here is a picture of one.  He also includes a spring if needed, but I didn't need it.

Yup, big hole towards crown, little towards shroud end.


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What he said and illustrated.

BD