Prod $230.62

[FuzzyGrub]

I have been using the yellow gas line tape for years.  It is at least twice as thick as the standard white tape.

As far as the oil, the parts are well oiled to prevent rust while they are sitting in the parts bin.  Usually the oil that weeps from the gauge area is just that oil that is trapped between the two O-rings on the gauge block. 

[Rick67]

I ordered this stock from Tom West for my new P-rod.  The quality of this gun really deserves better than that cheap plastic stock with too low of a comb.  With the low price $230 we paid for these P-rods, the price with this Tom West stock is still about the same as the normal price for a P-rod.  I learned he has a CNC machine he uses to cut these stocks.

Yes, the 1399 Crosman stock is low without a cheekpiece.

Not a PROD but I can convert this pistol into a carbine using an Aero Precision A2 buffer tube (gave the A2 tube to Mr. V. Austin for his template and service).

Mr. VA makes high quality laminate furniture.

Here are photos of mine:










The adapter is from JSAR.

The adjustable buttplate attached to the VA laminated shoulder pad is a Talon Tunes WokButt  .

Actually, I intend to move the grips to my 13xx as I will order a matching forearm.

Got other stuff from Mr. VA, btw  .

His stuff is very high quality and precisely fitted--he is fond of matte finish though, so I intend to polish it...On a 2nd thought, matte does not show finger prints  .

[Rick67]

The Crosman grip frame is speckle-powdercoated.

Dunno why Crosman uses those abhorrent casting-scarred grip frames.

They do look very nice once refinished  .

I though PROD grips were better but they too are ugly, lol!

[Techie]

Who is "Mr. VA", "Mr. V. Austin"?  I did a member search on this forum and can't find any name like that.

[subscriber]

Recently, I read a post about a plug for the rear of the P-Rod receiver tube.  There was mention of air blast from the back when shooting. 

Mine seems to blow air out the back when shooting.  This confuses me.  Where is the air coming from?  Surely it can't be HPA leaking.  Surely the hammer causes suction when it moves forwards, rather than blowing out the back.

The only thing I can  think would be a leak at the breech O-ring, or TP.  That said, the air does not bother me, and the gun is shooting at 14 FPE, so it can't be a serious leak.

Actually, I am having flashbacks of it being leakage around the poppet valve stem, because that does not have an O-ring.  I can see that an O-ring would cause drag on the valve stem.  But the bushing would need to be a very close fit to prevent wasted air.  Do I understand correctly?

[Rick67]

Who is "Mr. VA", "Mr. V. Austin"?  I did a member search on this forum and can't find any name like that.

Yes, Herr Vernon Austin  ..

You will be surprised by the quality of his grips.

I already knew he was an outstanding craftsman (and I am not exactly exactly gullible when it comes to laminate stocks--moi being a big fan of Tony Mele 10/22 custom stocks) but I was elated by the quality of his work  .

I did ask him if he can do PROD forearms but he said ''NO."

He might be convinced if there are more people who will order from him  .

[ranchibi]

I ordered this stock from Tom West for my new P-rod.  The quality of this gun really deserves better than that cheap plastic stock with too low of a comb.  With the low price $230 we paid for these P-rods, the price with this Tom West stock is still about the same as the normal price for a P-rod.  I learned he has a CNC machine he uses to cut these stocks.

Richard, that 1399 is gorgeous! 🤓👍

Yes, the 1399 Crosman stock is low without a cheekpiece.

Not a PROD but I can convert this pistol into a carbine using an Aero Precision A2 buffer tube (gave the A2 tube to Mr. V. Austin for his template and service).

Mr. VA makes high quality laminate furniture.

Here are photos of mine:










The adapter is from JSAR.

The adjustable buttplate attached to the VA laminated shoulder pad is a Talon Tunes WokButt  .

Actually, I intend to move the grips to my 13xx as I will order a matching forearm.

Got other stuff from Mr. VA, btw  .

His stuff is very high quality and precisely fitted--he is fond of matte finish though, so I intend to polish it...On a 2nd thought, matte does not show finger prints  .

[Rick67]

Can one actually buy a PROD breech from Crosman?

Sorry for the semi OT question but I am curious  .

Thanks!

[Rick67]

Thank you, Randall sir  .

[Rick67]

Skeets sir, I will ask them tomorrow if they are open.

Reason I am asking is because I bought a member's PROD brand new take-off parts.

I am particularly zeroed on the tube as I intend to send it to Don Cothran to be copied in stainless and without a gauge hole--a bit longer too, it being a 2260 tube format.

It should have more air intake  .

Just checked--Crosman is open Mondays to Fridays only.

[screwwork]

Yup you can all of extra parts for the Prod from Crosman. I have several breeches for barrel changes. From Arrow gun, GM .25, JMM HF .22, LW .22 and a Mrod .177 slugger barrel.

[screwwork]

Ricky
See if Don has made up the new valve for the Prod? For high power like the disco valve. Let me know if you find anything out ok.
Thanks Randy

[Rabbit\Squirrel Killer]

Skeets sir, I will ask them tomorrow if they are open.

Reason I am asking is because I bought a member's PROD brand new take-off parts.

I am particularly zeroed on the tube as I intend to send it to Don Cothran to be copied in stainless and without a gauge hole--a bit longer too, it being a 2260 tube format.

It should have more air intake  .

Just checked--Crosman is open Mondays to Fridays only.

The part number and description that you need to know in advance is - 2220-004 Breech

[Rick67]

Thank you for the info, Randy and Dan sirs!

Unfortunately, Mr. Cothran has not made those yet (re valve), and yes, I keep bugging him for the stainless high breech, lol!

[Rabbit\Squirrel Killer]

Skeets sir, I will ask them tomorrow if they are open.

Reason I am asking is because I bought a member's PROD brand new take-off parts.

I am particularly zeroed on the tube as I intend to send it to Don Cothran to be copied in stainless and without a gauge hole--a bit longer too, it being a 2260 tube format.

It should have more air intake  .

Just checked--Crosman is open Mondays to Fridays only.

The part number and description that you need to know in advance is - 2220-004 Breech

Did you see this?

[Rick67]

Skeets sir, I will ask them tomorrow if they are open.

Reason I am asking is because I bought a member's PROD brand new take-off parts.

I am particularly zeroed on the tube as I intend to send it to Don Cothran to be copied in stainless and without a gauge hole--a bit longer too, it being a 2260 tube format.

It should have more air intake  .

Just checked--Crosman is open Mondays to Fridays only.

The part number and description that you need to know in advance is - 2220-004 Breech

Did you see this?

I took a photo of it, Dan sir!

Merci!

[Rabbit\Squirrel Killer]

Skeets sir, I will ask them tomorrow if they are open.

Reason I am asking is because I bought a member's PROD brand new take-off parts.

I am particularly zeroed on the tube as I intend to send it to Don Cothran to be copied in stainless and without a gauge hole--a bit longer too, it being a 2260 tube format.

It should have more air intake  .

Just checked--Crosman is open Mondays to Fridays only.

The part number and description that you need to know in advance is - 2220-004 Breech

Did you see this?

I took a photo of it, Dan sir!

Merci!

Cool because they will not look up a part number for you when you call. I think you were typing the thanks to randy when I posted it and since your post was there immediately after mine thought you may have missed seeing it.

[Rick67]

I will ring them on Monday!

I hope the PROD tube is not too different from the 22xx's as Mr. Cothran might frown upon my request, lol!

I am aware of their identical I.D. and O.D. though but the slots and holes may be different.

Thanks again, Mr. Dan!

[Rabbit\Squirrel Killer]

I will ring them on Monday!

I hope the PROD tube is not too different from the 22xx's as Mr. Cothran might frown upon my request, lol!

I am aware of their identical I.D. and O.D. though but the slots and holes may be different.

Thanks again, Mr. Dan!

[Buldawg76]

Recently, I read a post about a plug for the rear of the P-Rod receiver tube.  There was mention of air blast from the back when shooting. 

Mine seems to blow air out the back when shooting.  This confuses me.  Where is the air coming from?  Surely it can't be HPA leaking.  Surely the hammer causes suction when it moves forwards, rather than blowing out the back.

The only thing I can  think would be a leak at the breech O-ring, or TP.  That said, the air does not bother me, and the gun is shooting at 14 FPE, so it can't be a serious leak.

Actually, I am having flashbacks of it being leakage around the poppet valve stem, because that does not have an O-ring.  I can see that an O-ring would cause drag on the valve stem.  But the bushing would need to be a very close fit to prevent wasted air.  Do I understand correctly?

You are correct that the poppet valve stem does not have an o ring on it and so some small puff of air will exit past the stem when firing but not enough to affect shot power or efficiency. Also the hammer has the sides milled flat so as not to create a vacuum behind the hammer when fired so it does displace some air around it when its slung forward during a shot. Likely you are feeling both some air past the stem as well as the hammer displacing air during a shot. My previous Prod and my current 1720T both did/does the same thing so just the nature of the beast. FYI the 1720T is just a .177 prod with a LW barrel otherwise externally and internally the same and use lots of the same parts such as everything below the breech, bolt /probe and barrel.

BD