Crosman Q.C.

[Chouchin66]

So... Just had a conversation w/ customer svc. @ Crosman, about Q.C. , pellets in general & bringing back .20 cal.  Domes in some format/weight. Does anyone think that with enough input from us (rabid airgunners), they may actually up their game & make a consistent product? Not really a rant , just askin' 

[Roadworthy]

As with most corporations the bottom line is the bottom line.  Profit is where it's at.  If you want anything to change you'll probably have to initiate a letter writing campaign to their management.  One conversation with one customer service rep is unlikely to have any effect.

[Chouchin66]

I hear ya roadworthy! Kinda wondering aloud (text) if anyone shared my thoughts/frustrations? I'm up for a movement... USA is a manufacturing force to reckon with ; could be easy to keep up w/ JSB , H&N et al .

[dan_house]

Does anyone think that with enough input from us (rabid airgunners), they may actually up their game & make a consistent product?

Nope.  Unless every member of this, and every member of other airgunning forums is willing to a) start writing letters (IMO a great idea anyway )  b) willing to tolerate the price increase that better QC will inevitably cause and c)buy 10 guns or more a month. Gotta remember where Crosman's profits come from..... and it aint from the forum members....

FWIW, I love crosman, But Im a realist too......

[Relentless Holiday]

We serious AGers get ONE concession from CM as far as pellets. We can still buy boxed, lot marked, batches from dealers who will do the work to deliver them to us matched.  Everything else in tins is produced with Q.C. standards as spec'd by Walmart type corp. buyers. "Cheep is king" in that world. So don't hold your breath waiting for that to change.  Want good pellets in tins? Think JSB, H&N, better lines from RWS...or even Air Ventury (heard good but no 1st hand experience  with them yet).

[nervoustrigger]

Unfortunately these days, the boxed pellets are often poor quality.  Particularly true of the 10.5gr heavies in my experience. 

[Wayne52]

Supposedly our mfg situation here in the U.S. is making a comeback, hopefully Crosman starts upping their game . . . . time will tell.

[Insanity]

Supposedly our mfg situation here in the U.S. is making a comeback, hopefully Crosman starts upping their game . . . . time will tell.

I would like to see that and then have them produce pure lead pellets but I wont hold my breath.

[Chouchin66]

+1 to all of above ! ...A 12.5 grain prem. Lite .20 would frost the cake...

[BackStop]

I'd like to see a "standard" .177 hollow point in 10.5 grains that is NOT the gimmicky Piranha.