HW85 vs. 95

[Stinger177]

My older brother and I got together after a fews years of not seeing each other in person, and we shot some of my air rifles the other day. This was his first introduction to true air rifles as opposed to powder burners. He now wants to own an air rifle and I've steered him towards the Weihrauch lineup (that being my own personal preference, and also the brand that he shot from my collection - I forgot to bring along my Diana's).

We're trying to narrow down the right HW model for him. He wants something to possibly take down a few critters, possibly up to the size of a Prairie Dog, but not necessarily.

We all know how nice just about any HW shoots, and my brother is looking at the HW85 or 95, and since I do not own either, I'm asking what any of you can tell about the differences between the two.

We're talking about the newest model 85 and 95. No need to discuss the aspects of the first version 85 as we are not considering a used rifle.

He's the best brother in the world, so please help me out here.   

Thanks in advance for any info you can provide.

Dennis

[DanD]

If he likes em big, long, and heavy, go 85.
If he likes them a little shorter, lighter, and handier, go 95.

[joek]

only difference is the barrel length and the front sight, globe with inserts on the HW85

[Stinger177]

Thanks guys.

So they have the same power?

Are the actions identical or does one have a larger compression tube than the other?

It appears that the 95's front sight is a globe, but with the fixed post. I assume that it could be changed out to an insert style globe?

[joek]

as far as I know it's the same power plant on both (same FPS). you can swap the front sight but the cheapest i've seen is $50 new + shipping

[Stinger177]

Thanks Joe. I have a couple spare insert style Weihrauch globes to use.

[Bayman]

Thanks Joe. I have a couple spare insert style Weihrauch globes to use.

I bet. If not I have like 6 of them for you. Go with the 95. It will be less hold sensitive with the shorter barrel. The 95 barrel is already plenty long for the very reasonable cocking effort. Not all 95s come with the fixed globe. My AoA 299 special came with one and I really like on my Hw30. If you get one with a fixed globe maybe we could work out a trade. I'd like to get another

[Bayman]

Ohhh and the Hw95 is a great all around gun. Especially if he has a little property around him. I love mine. It was the rifle that got me hooked on airguns. It was my first quality AG. You're a good brother and your brother is very lucky to have you. What caliber are you going to do? Mine is 177 because I wanted a flatter shooting gun that I could find pellets for anywhere. Mine is making 15 fpe and can head shot a tree rat at 50 yards. With a scope of course. I did a starling at a little over a hundred. The 95 is nice medium powered airgun. It shoots strong enough for most airgun activities but much more enjoyable to shoot than magnums. I say that because they are noticeably lighter, much easier to cock and shoot accurately. Hw30s (my favorite AG) lacks the range and power of a 95. A HW50 is a nice gun to but has a less power and the weight and cocking effort is very close to the Hw95.
Best of luck
Ron

[joek]

when I bought my .22 HW85k from Krale the only difference between the HW95 was the front sight. odd they had two rifles so close in specifications ?

[Stinger177]

Ohhh and the Hw95 is a great all around gun. Especially if he has a little property around him. I love mine. It was the rifle that got me hooked on airguns. It was my first quality AG. You're a good brother and your brother is very lucky to have you. What caliber are you going to do? Mine is 177 because I wanted a flatter shooting gun that I could find pellets for anywhere. Mine is making 15 fpe and can head shot a tree rat at 50 yards. With a scope of course. I did a starling at a little over a hundred. The 95 is nice medium powered airgun. It shoots strong enough for most airgun activities but much more enjoyable to shoot than magnums. I say that because they are noticeably lighter, much easier to cock and shoot accurately. Hw30s (my favorite AG) lacks the range and power of a 95. A HW50 is a nice gun to but has a less power and the weight and cocking effort is very close to the Hw95.
Best of luck
Ron

Thanks Ron. Very helpful information.

I think he's going with .177 for the flatter trajectory. Your mention of availability is a good point as well. I noticed that you have the Nikon 3-9x40 EFR. That's the exact same scope I have on my HW30K. I love that scope, even without mil dots.

How much did the Vortek change your 95?  Is the Vortek a PG2 or 3, and is it an HO?

I'll look through my stash and see if I can find a fixed post HW front sight, and yes, I'll do a trade if I have one.

when I bought my .22 HW85k from Krale the only difference between the HW95 was the front sight. odd they had two rifles so close in specifications ?

Joe - I thought the same thing which is why I'm having difficulty determining the difference.

It's my understanding that a K version has the barrel shortened, therefore losing the front sight dovetails. Is that correct? My HW30K is that way, with a glued-on Weihrauch ldc and no sight holes on the breech block. Again, is it that way on all HW-K versions?


Thanks again guys. This is all very helpful, and my brother is following this thread as well.

 

[DanD]

If he likes em big, long, and heavy, go 85.
If he likes them a little shorter, lighter, and handier, go 95.

Please disregard the above (as you probably already have. )
I had a moment of confusion - I was thinking HW80 when I wrote that. Sorry.

[joek]

The HW85k has the globe sight with inserts 
https://www.weihrauch-sport.de/air-rifles/hw-85-hw-85-k?lang=en

[Bayman]

The HW85k has the globe sight with inserts 

Who has the 85k? Krale does not. Its my understanding that it's a uk market only version of the 95 with said globe sights. The barrel length and everything else on a 85k and 95 are identical.

[Stinger177]

The HW85k has the globe sight with inserts 

Got it, thanks.

We're leaning (or at least I am) toward the 95 and replacing the front sight with an insert style. That is, if that's what my Bro wants. At least I have all the parts to do it.

The HW85k has the globe sight with inserts 

Who has the 85k? Krale does not. Its my understanding that it's a uk market only version of the 95 with said globe sights. The barrel length and everything else on a 85k and 95 are identical.

I don't think we're considering a K version. I was only asking about it for clarity on the front sight dovetails and no sight holes on the breech block.

The big bummer is that Krale is OOS on the 95 in .177.

[joek]

The HW85k has the globe sight with inserts 

Who has the 85k? Krale does not. Its my understanding that it's a uk market only version of the 95 with said globe sights. The barrel length and everything else on a 85k and 95 are identical.

I bought mine when Krale had the .22 on sale some time ago. they can probably special order one for you?. I would swap you the fixed post off my Beeman R6 but it's the only one I have and I like to keep my OEM parts lol

[joek]

The HW85k has the globe sight with inserts 

Got it, thanks.

We're leaning (or at least I am) toward the 95 and replacing the front sight with an insert style. That is, if that's what my Bro wants. At least I have all the parts to do it.

The HW85k has the globe sight with inserts 

Who has the 85k? Krale does not. Its my understanding that it's a uk market only version of the 95 with said globe sights. The barrel length and everything else on a 85k and 95 are identical.

I don't think we're considering a K version. I was only asking about it for clarity on the front sight dovetails and no sight holes on the breech block.

The big bummer is that Krale is OOS on the 95 in .177.

With shipping your probably within a few bucks AOA's price, except shipping will take LONGER! LOL

[Stinger177]

The HW85k has the globe sight with inserts 

Who has the 85k? Krale does not. Its my understanding that it's a uk market only version of the 95 with said globe sights. The barrel length and everything else on a 85k and 95 are identical.

I bought mine when Krale had the .22 on sale some time ago. they can probably special order one for you?. I would swap you the fixed post off my Beeman R6 but it's the only one I have and I like to keep my OEM parts lol

Same here. I'm stingy with my OEM parts as well. As I understand it, the 95 would come with a fixed post. I would want to swap it for the insert style as I've done with all my other HW's.

I'm good on fixed posts in my stash, if there are any that is.   

[joek]

No forget AOA on the HW95 I thought they had free shipping on Weihrauch 

[Bayman]

https://www.pyramydair.com/product/beeman-r9-air-rifle?m=1900
This would have the good globe sights and a much nice stock. Looks to be coming back in stock soon.

[prosportfan]

95 hands down. You dont need a longer barrel or a heavier rifle.