Pest control, PCP recommendations (no FX please)

[Sfttailrdr46]

The Marauder is an excellent choice for a first PCP tons of aftermarket parts and lots of available information on tuning and modding right here. A second option is the Evanix Rainstorm II fit DRT out to 50 yards either will fill the bill nicely and for a little more thump both are available in .25. Both can be easily upgraded to an aftermarket regulator for better shot to shot consistancy.

[only1harry]

I personally agree with the OP's/Mike's choice of the Gauntlet, and not because I own one - I own both Marauder and Gauntlet and other PCP's.  Here are my reasons why:

1. The OP mentioned he will only shoot some pests and once he eliminates the problem he will put the airgun away, and use it only if the pests return.  Why spend twice as much for the Marauder if it's for limited use?

2. The Gauntlet comes Regulated from the factory (and shrouded).  No need for mods or additional expenses.  My .22 Gauntlet gets 61-62 shots at 22.7 FPE and it's very consistent averaging 805fps at the muzzle with JSB 15.89gr.  Extreme spread was 6fps and standard deviation 1fps.  ~23fpe is plenty of energy to humanely kill any small game animal inside 40 yards with good shot placement (head shots).

3. It's a multi-shot just like the Marauder and it is HALF the price, gets >2x the number of shots.  Mine cost $221 shipped to my door from Sportsman's Guide with a $25 coupon, and they had free shipping.

4.  The Gauntlet is accurate to 30 yards and by that I mean smaller than 1/2 inch groups.  Sometimes I get 0.35" if I do my part.  30 yards is the max. I shoot/pest on my property these days no matter what PCP I use.  Some Marauder .22 's might be slightly more accurate, but some may not.  For the most part they are very comparable in accuracy, but sometimes you can get .22 Mrod's that just can't group and need to be returned or have a barrel swap.  Now my Marauder .25 is more accurate than the Gauntlet .22, but it comes with a Green Mountain target barrel, stock.  The Mrod .22 does not, so you cannot compare the Gauntlet .22 to an Mrod .25.  I am comparing .22's.

Edit:  The Mrod has a better trigger so that makes it a really good air rifle.  Is that worth almost twice as much $$ ?  For some yes, for some no.  The regulator and low price is the Gauntlet's strongest selling points.

Harry

[avator]

Sorry, I disagree with both of you....
For the OP's intended purpose I'll take an Urban.
If I'm not mistaken he'll be hand pumping. The smaller air capacity will take less effort.
Shot count and the expensive spare mags are a non issue for pesting. As a matter of fact, in a pesting situation you probably wouldn't even need a repeater.. unless you are being invaded by an army of zombie pests.
Both the Gauntlet and MRod are larger, heavier guns. The Urban with it's thumbhole stock is very manageable.
The ugly pickle actually works.
From what I've read, the Gauntlet is hit or miss. When I see someone like Hajimoto do videos on guns doing this mod and that fix it makes me wonder why it needs all these mods to begin with? "This is how you fix the trigger" "This is how you stop the leaks" "This is how you do that and that is how you do this".
The MRod.... There are so many mods and upgrades for that gun that owning one leaves you wanting to buy all of them so you can be all you can be.... like the rest of the guys.
I bought my Urban for $220.... opened the box and did this.... and I've been doing it ever since...
10 shots at 30yds..

[Ozman]

I’m not sure if it was mentioned or not but a regulated Marauder might just fit the bill. I should warn you , if you look at just about everyone’s signature , no one owns just one PCP . It’s a rabbit hole .

Marauder is AU$1350 in Australia (equivalent to US$950 or CA$1242)
http://ausarms.com.au/links/product.php?id=10304

Thanks for the suggestion

[Hobbyman2007]

Holy smokes , and I thought is Canadians were getting the short end of the stick . That’s wayyyyyy too much for a marauder . Maybe check something me classifieds to see what f something comes up . I’ve never seen an Urban so I can’t comment . If it’s indeed accurate then why not .

[cisco]

Marauder is AU$1350 in Australia (equivalent to US$950 or CA$1242)

Thanks for the suggestion

Wow, that's nuts.  Almost cheaper for a return flight to the US and buy this one!
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=160362.0

Or... make a vacation of it and pick up a big powerful Raptor .30
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=159829.0

(... not being serious btw... importing any firearm-rated airguns would likely be painful...)

[vigilandy]

Locked for admin review. 

[Ozman]

Thanks to everyone who made useful responses in this thread. I've finally made a decision, and it was not an easy one. I've decided to put an airgun purchase on hold for a while, and get a 22LR rimfire instead. I took a lot of things into consideration, some of which only apply to me, some to the country where I live (Australia).

I know it's against the rules to discuss rimfire here, so I won't list all the reasons, and maybe soon I'll be back when I have the dough to buy an airgun as well.

Thanks again! 

[avator]

I'm sure it was a tough decision Mike.
We'll be right here when you are ready.

[Lastdog]

I saw a Sumatra 22 carbine on the au site you posted. Good accurate powerful.
I know it might be a little late and I have not read this whole thread but for an all around pcp pesting rifle it can’t be beat.

[Lion]

Advice wanted. 

Located in Australia, I need a regulated PCP airgun for rabbit control on 5 acres, but please, no FX recommendations*

Here are my requirements:


• Caliber .22 or .25 (preferably 22)
• Capable of 900-1000 fps
• Regulated pressure (consistent shooting)
• Accurate to 100-120m/yards
• As few O-rings as possible
• Rugged, durable design
• Reputation for reliability
• Reputation for barrel accuracy (Lothar Walther?)
• I do not need the ability to swap out barrels and change calibers
• I do not need a magazine, single shot acceptable. Magazine would be nice though.
• I do not need high shot capacity (i.e. a big air reservoir) Will be hand pumping.

Recommendations please!

* FX airguns seem to have little or no quality control ex factory. I've read hundreds of owner accounts of problems on various forums, and even seen two dealers (now 3, including AoA) refuse to sell them because of the the return rate.  I just don't need or want the drama in my life.

In this case my choice is .22 the Sam Yang Snipe 500cc double tank and in .25 the Sam Yang Sparrow 500cc double tank:
- both single shot, easy to load and easy to uncock
- at maximum power .22 130 Joule and .25 160J with 'heavy' slugs
- shoots very accurate with the Sam Yang/ Eujin Spitsers
- easy to maintain and handle
- these are almost exacly the same build like the Recluse, Light hunter and Dragon Claw
- a lot of air in the 500cc airtanks: no nead for a internal regulator for the first 5 shots at maximum power
- a good value for the money

I have not found a lot of information on the internet about them.
https://pellet-guns.com/precharged-pneumatic-pcp/60-snipe-big-bore-calibre-55mm.html
I am very happy with mine. If there was a .177 singel shot Sam Yang, I would buy one. (Don't tell my wife  ;D )

[BackStop]

• Advice wanted. 
  
  Located in Australia, I need a regulated PCP airgun for rabbit control on 5 acres, but please, no FX recommendations*
  
  Here are my requirements:
  
• Caliber .22 or .25 (preferably 22)
• Capable of 900-1000 fps
• Regulated pressure (consistent shooting)
• Accurate to 100-120m/yards
• As few O-rings as possible
• Rugged, durable design
• Reputation for reliability
• Reputation for barrel accuracy (Lothar Walther?)
• I do not need the ability to swap out barrels and change calibers
• I do not need a magazine, single shot acceptable. Magazine would be nice though.
• I do not need high shot capacity (i.e. a big air reservoir) Will be hand pumping.

Recommendations please!

* FX airguns seem to have little or no quality control ex factory. I've read hundreds of owner accounts of problems on various forums, and even seen two dealers (now 3, including AoA) refuse to sell them because of the the return rate.  I just don't need or want the drama in my life.

In this case my choice is .22 the Sam Yang Snipe 500cc double tank and in .25 the Sam Yang Sparrow 500cc double tank:
- both single shot, easy to load and easy to uncock
- at maximum power .22 130 Joule and .25 160J with 'heavy' slugs
- shoots very accurate with the Sam Yang/ Eujin Spitsers
- easy to maintain and handle
- these are almost exacly the same build like the Recluse, Light hunter and Dragon Claw
- a lot of air in the 500cc airtanks: no nead for a internal regulator for the first 5 shots at maximum power
- a good value for the money

I have not found a lot of information on the internet about them.
https://pellet-guns.com/precharged-pneumatic-pcp/60-snipe-big-bore-calibre-55mm.html
I am very happy with mine. If there was a .177 singel shot Sam Yang, I would buy one. (Don't tell my wife  )

WOW!  130 Joules is 95.88 FPE out of a .22?   What weight pellet and how fast is the muzzle velocity?
Oops... that might only be 73.75 FPE, (maybe I did not use the first online converter correctly), but still out of a .22 air rifle?

Again, what pellet weight and what muzzle velocity?

[Back_Roads]

 My Air Force Escape UL .22 is tuned and set up to give me 90 FPE with a 50 gr. slug.
Not too many production guns can do that easily as Air Force.

[BackStop]

My Air Force Escape UL .22 is tuned and set up to give me 90 FPE with a 50 gr. slug.
Not too many production guns can do that easily as Air Force.

I could use Chairgun to try and figure out your muzzle velocity, but could you just post it instead?

Thanks!

[Back_Roads]

 905 FPS   

[BackStop]

905 FPS   

Thanks!   Verified in Chairgun.

I knew it wasn't a pellet.  (chuckle/grin/smile)

[Lion]

WOW!  130 Joules is 95.88 FPE out of a .22?   What weight pellet and how fast is the muzzle velocity?
Oops... that might only be 73.75 FPE, (maybe I did not use the first online converter correctly), but still out of a .22 air rifle?

Again, what pellet weight and what muzzle velocity?

Sam Yang Snipe 5,5mm at maximum power and air pressure 200 bar:
48 grains slug: v=262m/s: 130 Joule
46 grains slug: v=281m/s: 118 Joule
(Use a 54 grains slug in .224 for more accuracy. No shotstring made also not for a 35 grains slug. All these slugs were casted.)
Pellets:
Sam Yang Spitser 33 grain : v=321m/s: 110 Joule
Sam Yang domed 28 grain : v=338m/s: 105 Joule
Straton Jumbo Monster 25(,39) gr.: v=367m/s: 91 Joule

The Snipe is very good to tune for more power. Something for Will P?
About 315m/s for the .224 54 grains slug would be nice
BTW a .22 HMR-Snipe would also be a interesting project.

[Bryan Heimann]

Thanks to everyone who made useful responses in this thread. I've finally made a decision, and it was not an easy one. I've decided to put an airgun purchase on hold for a while, and get a 22LR rimfire instead. I took a lot of things into consideration, some of which only apply to me, some to the country where I live (Australia).

I know it's against the rules to discuss rimfire here, so I won't list all the reasons, and maybe soon I'll be back when I have the dough to buy an airgun as well.

Thanks again! 

I think you made the right decision.

My guess is you'll be shopping for a quality springer to fill a different niche around the house