Bullpup trials...awnser is "no"

[Motorhead]

One mistake i see many making with pups is scope placement front to back.  My own findings are the scope back further so as you hold and view the scope your posture ( Head & Neck ) is kept more upright and not with your head slumped forward or extended to get the eye relief correct.
Offhand or leaned against a wall, structure or support KEEP THE GUN IN TIGHT to your body. Use your body to try & create a bond with holding the gun where if your body is not moving or swaying, neither is your POA.

There just different and if approached and played with in non typical long Gun handling techniques can be quite a positive experience and success easier to obtain.

[Tommyzgunz]

One mistake i see many making with pups is scope placement front to back.  My own findings are the scope back further so as you hold and view the scope your posture ( Head & Neck ) is kept more upright and not with your head slumped forward or extended to get the eye relief correct.
Offhand or leaned against a wall, structure or support KEEP THE GUN IN TIGHT to your body. Use your body to try & create a bond with holding the gun where if your body is not moving or swaying, neither is your POA.

There just different and if approached and played with in non typical long Gun handling techniques can be quite a positive experience and success easier to obtain.

again excellent advice .

[Sfttailrdr46]

I have read through this entire thread and really have nothing to add to what has already been stated. For me I can live without the WOW/COOL factor and as Manny stated a nice well set up Carbine will do just as well. I also had a few and they failed to impress me. On the other hand if Evanix can sort out the Max Air semi automatic I will have to reconsider since my biggest gripe has always been the cocking after every shot. Reality is when hunting with an AG I will always limit my shots to 50 yards or less do to my belief that longer distance shots require the shooter to overcome too many variables. So accuracy/tight groups beyond 50 yards for me are not an issue. If Evanix can resolve the accuracy issues of the Max Air I will revisit the Bullpup otherwise not a chance since there are many other AG's available to choose from the next time I get bored with my current stable ot toys

[Ribbonstone]

Didn't expect to add any new information...really isn't anything  new about bull pups other than using a full length barrel in a short package.

BUT..it does seem bullpups are entering the "common man" area of pricing...which would tempt other comman men to give one a try,....so as a common  man (in at least two of the deifnations) hoped it would give some of the other guys who are thinking about trying one something to think about.

If all your shooting is from a bench or bi-pod ,then you will have a very short period of adpating to the rifle. Honestly don't think there are many folks that seem to bother with off hand,even when hunting... that seems to take some more adapting.

Just wanted to help seperate the style from substance....finding it's mostly style.

Not that function and style don't go together...they do, and very likely for very good reasons.  Humans have been shooting firearms for a very long time, and they've evolved in style to suit specific uses.  Can dress it up/pare it down, add some blink or color, but basically many rifles do reflect their intented use from just looking at them.

A Schuetzen rifle generally looks like/balances like/acts like the other Schuetzen rifles...10 meter match airguns have a lot in common...so do FT or other steel-critter games rifles...trap shot guns...skeet shotguns...pass shooting duck shot guns...upland game shot guns...etc.


Don't think they would have as much in common in blance/ bore height/weight/ length if there weren't somthing to that combination.
Don't think the shooters (pretty much uniformaly,at the upper levels, are kind of cut-throat when it comes to even a slight legal advantage) stick with those forms if there wasn't something worth sticking with.

So with bullpups...I'm still looking for that spot.

[grand-galop]

Rib!!  At first, the bullpup was design on purpose for close quarters combat and tactical applications.  The people using this type of weapon are not looking for SURGICAL PRECISION.  The ergonomics of the weapon are adapted by the user in efficient way to the task to accomplish.. You cannot have it both ways in a single format.. This is why every sniper of the world use long rifle for precision application.. The fulcrum point being further from the shoulder imply less drastically impacting  the point of aim.. Shorter the 2points of bearing are,  more sensitive the movement effect the point of aim.

[Ribbonstone]

Pretty much the direction I'm trying...do have uses for a lower scope power, high energy rifle...but those uses are away from the bench (or bipod rest); am hoping the puppy will show some abilities in that direction.

[K.O.]

yep that is another... want to see some open sights or a peep... bet that is a pain on a pup... my eyes are to bad now but...

so sight radius length pretty sure the carbine wins that one... could be wrong have not really looked into it... but red dots and laser is what I have seen most for pups...and not my thing...

[K.O.]

moving on
lets look at p90 verses ole reliable mp5

Changing mags... when sustained fire matters...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungle_style_(firearm_magazines)

how do ya do that with a P90...

 

drum mags no not even on a pup show one that does not look clumsy/cumbersome...

just can not help it prefer a carbine no matter the incarnation/setuup...

[drewciferpike]

Changing mags?!? No way... You dual-wield! Haha.

Joking aside, it still comes back to tools, tools, tools, and how each fits into its happy place (or yours). I have never--NEVER--seen or shot an air rifle that truly hit all nails with one swing, despite marketing and hype. A precision piece of engineering translates to precision application, too.

I'll always have uses for long light guns, long heavy guns, carbines, pups, and pistols. It's merely a reflection of my shooting environment.